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Discussion in 'Anesthesiology' started by Slothtronaut, Feb 15, 2018.
When is the usual time frame of interview offers?
From February until May, depending on the institution. Occasionally later into the summer
Am I way too late for submitting the complete application at the end of March? My application is ready to be submitted but I am still waiting on a couple of letters to be sent in before I could submit the entire application... =(
No. People apply in July. Programs are required to have interview dates until September just for people that decide in May/June they want to do Peds. The program directors understand that not all residents have had the opportunity to rotate in pediatrics until late in their CA2 years , so may not know they want to do peds. In fact, the preference of the application cycle would be not to open the applications up until the spring/summer, however ERAS forces them to open Dec 1 to use the system. That being said, most program directors don't start looking at applications until January/Feb and send out invites Feb/March at the earliest. Source: I was at this year's ASA conference in Boston where the pediatric fellowship program directors met residents and they discussed this.
*Edit: Note they never discussed when most programs usually sent interviews - only when the earliest programs did. Hence, my question above.
Interviews for some of the top places started going out a month ago.
You're definitely not late; this was when my interviews came out but if you look on FRIEDA or contact the programs you'll see many of them close their cycle at the end of the summer. and thus take applications up to that time.
Has anyone received an interview offer to DC children's or emory yet?
Has Stanford given out invites yet?
I haven't heard from either Emory or Stanford. My co resident heard back from DC but I personally haven't. Anyone hear from Seattle Children's?
Hopefully all of you have seen the journal article about projected excess in pediatric anesthesiologists that was in the February 2018 issue of Anesthesia & Analgesia.
The Pediatric Anesthesiology Workforce: Projecting Supply and Trends 2015–2035
(Unfortunately SDN won't let a new account post links).
1) 25% of pedi anesthesiologists don't end up doing pedi anesthesia. I am guessing this is because they are either geographically restricted, and had to take whatever job came along, or didn't realize that pediatric anesthesia actually pays LESS than adult anesthesia (especially one with a good payer mix). So if you are geographically restricted, I would send feelers out and see if there will be a job when you finish, and also see what adult anesthesia jobs there are out there.
2) "If historical trends continue, the growth in pediatric anesthesiologist supply may exceed the growth in both the pediatric population and inpatient procedures in the 20-year period from 2015 to 2035."
Same can be said of all the fellowships. It’s all hybrid positions. Do what you love!
If they make Peds a 2 year fellowship that’ll fix any surplus by a long shot.....
Was totes about to post the same thing.
Any idea how many programs people typically interview at?
Has anyone heard back from Tufts, Boston Children's or CHOP yet?
I've heard back from almost all programs by now but did not apply to those three.
My coresidents have interviews (and some have interviewed) at both BCH and CHOP.
A coresident told me their interview schedule slots were mostly full when he was invited, unfortunately.
Has anyone heard from Stanford or Northwestern?
I was told on my interview that around ~250 fellows graduate each year and there are only ~70 pediatric spots open to hire. Was asked what I would do if I was part of the 3/4 of fellows that don't get a pediatrics job... The surplus is real. I am rethinking fellowship
CA2 here. Sending my latest ITE score to programs, got 49, 98% and as CA1 42, 96%, so I'm really happy with my result, but does it really make a difference? It's been really quiet for me the past month, I feel like programs just haven't sent official rejections just in case applicants cancel interviews.
I think that's a silly question. I assume these 70 spots are either at children's hospitals or majority peds at other big hospitals? There aren't many fellowships where 25% of grads practice exclusively in the fellowship area. I do agree that your risk of doing no peds is higher than finding a job where you do no regional, cardiac etc.
I haven’t been on the interview trail in some time, but we hired a few folks last year. Expansion of services continues year after year after year. I’d think there were more than 70 jobs at children’s hospitals available last year. Another thing to consider is that a lot of people don’t want to commit to 100% peds at a children’s hospital for lots of reasons. We’ve had a couple that saw the light and bounced back after a few years of peds and adults in the real world. There’s also a lot of people that want to be in private practice groups. There are not a lot of 100% peds private practice opportunities out there.
I don’t think the market is particularly dire, but like with everything else, it’s a competitive market. Work hard, prepare, pass your boards, don’t be a whiner or a problem child and you can flex your connections for a decent 100% peds job if that’s what you want.
Having said all that, we should probably cut back slots, but nobody wants to do it. If it goes to a 2 year fellowship, that may solve the problem.
Is it still realistic to expect receiving interview invites in May? Or almost all the interview spots are all filled?
According to NRMP program director survey (from 2016), some programs still do send out invites in May, even in June too. But, the survey only represents 20 programs that took the survey, not all programs in the match.
Two programs have contacted me this week about interviews.
Does anyone here have an interview at Texas Children's, and if so, when were you contacted about your invitation? Curious as to the chances of any further interview offers being made there. Good luck to everyone this application season!
I know our program holds a few spots and an interview day for later in the season to make sure any good late applicants have a chance. Though I don’t know if those invites went out yet. Probably not.
Does anyone where to find a list of unfilled positions after the match ? Will you still need to purchase an eras token to apply at that time? Thanks
As it's now spring/summer, I'm sorry to get the annoying (but really helpful to us!) fellowship postings going during interview season.
Would any current or recently graduated fellows be willing to give some anonymous +/- reviews/info of their pedi fellowship training?
To start things off, I am interested/interviewing at Stanford, Emory, UIC, CHOP, and Hopkins....
I was under the impression that UIC no longer has a fellowship.
This is what I found...
What are my options if I decide on Pediatric Anesthesia late and miss the Match dates?
You may find that there will be either unmatched slots or slots outside the Match that are still available. Most programs post these on the Society for Pediatric website in the fellowship section. Additionally, late vacancies do sometimes occur and are usually posted. Some programs offer mid-year starting positions. Your current residency program director or the pediatric fellowship director at your institution may have additional advice.
I have the same question!
Lot of good info here if you havent seen the 2017 thread. I spent a lot of time reviewing the places you mentioned. Peds Anesthesia 2017
Their website states that they are not currently accepting applications. Lurie has 10 current fellows. The poster might mean Lurie?