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penn state vs. GW vs. MCP

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by nerak74, Mar 16, 2001.

  1. nerak74

    nerak74 Junior Member

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    i have been accepted into Penn State and George Washington and I have one last interview at MCP Hahenmann. How does MCP compare to Penn State/GW? I am wondering if I should cancel my interview (save some $).
    Thanks!
     
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  3. s2417

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    Hi. I interview at MCP Hahnemann several months ago and my interest in MCP dramatically increased once I got there! At first, I really did not know too much about the school, except I knew some students who graduated from there and who were attending. The school is very, very modern and the student-faculty interaction is the best I've seen. The atmosphere is definitely NOT competitive but cooperative...eveyone is very friendly and willing to help out. The faculty is very approachable and helpful also. The area is actually quite nice. I thought Philly was dirty and unsafe. However, the school is located in the suburb of Philly and the area is very clean, nice, and safe. Just in case you want to feel safer, the school offers a 24 hour escort service if you happen to leave the school late or something. I would definitely go there and give it a chance. The interview is very relaxed...in fact, I nearly forgot it was an interview. I was accepted in 2 months. I am also thinking of interviewing at GW and I noticed that you already have been accepted there. What was your impression of the school. I only hear good things about the school except that their facilities are mediocre...what is your opinion. Do you know how well they do on the USMLE and how their residency matches are (did they provide you with any stats?...if you have these info, can you please post in detail. Thanks!

     
  4. Pick Penn State so I cans pimp ya when you're a 3rd year med student and I'm a 3rd year Surgical resident!! [​IMG]

    Well, the environments are totally different. Hershey is rather bucolic but close to the resources of Harrisburg. MCP is in a nice suburb of Philly but has the rest of Philly to play in. And well, I love DC, but the cost of living is high, as is the crime rate and tuition at GW.

    All are fine schools, cost and environment would be determining factor to me if I liked all of them equally well.

    Have fun choosing!
     
  5. charlotte.sometimes

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    Coming from someone who has lived in DC for 3 years, I can assure you that safety and crime should not be a deterrent from GW. The school is in a convenient location; the metro is literally in front of the medical school. Cost of living is an issue, yes, but crime is no worse than any major city (and CERTAINLY no worse than Philly).
     
  6. s2417

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    Hi. I was wondering, are you a resident of DC or did you go to school in DC? I haven't visited DC but wanted to know what the atmosphere there is like. I'm not sure if you've been to SF, Chicago, or LA, but I would consider those places ethnically diverse and culturally friendly. What do you think of DC in terms of these characteristics? Does DC have places to eat international food? And do they have fast food places, such as McD and Papa John's (pizza)? And do you know if GW has a good reputation in DC?



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  7. As a resident of DC and Northern VA on and off over the last 22 YEARS, who has a brother who has lived there nearly 20 years and a best friend born and raised there, perhaps I am a little bit more acquainted with the issue of crime in the district than more recent denizens.

    While crime in the District is not as bad as it once was (Baltimore surpassed it in murders a few years back), DC is *consistently* ranked among the most dangerous cities in the US. For many years, the district led the nation in violent crime - murders, rapes, assault. It is still consistently ranked in the top 5 most dangerous cities per capita. Even more so than Philly, and certainly more so than Hershey, PA. And these are violent crimes, not crimes against property. Anyone patient enough can load the US Census Department stats and take a look - I was too impatient.

    Reminds me of a famous Marion Barry quote in defense of the crime rate, "If it wasn't for the murders, we wouldn't have much crime at all." Classic, really.

    However, the area around GW is nice and the Metro is close. The "fun" thing about DC is that you can literally walk a few blocks and go from upscale mansion and coffeehouse type area to burned out crack houses. With all that said, I've never been a victim of crime in DC because I take all normal precautions and I'm sure you will also find the same to be true for you.

    Anyway, s2417 - it is obvious you've never been to DC. Let me assure you, it is a tourist destination (most popular vacation destination for Americans) and as such has all the "amenities" you desire. They do indeed have Papa Johns, McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell (although not nearly as many as California or Texas), Popeyes Chicken, Wendys, KFC, Round Table, Dominos, etc. They don't have Carls Jrs, but Hardees is basically the same. And of course, you have the requisite Starbucks on every corner! [​IMG] They also have any number of fancy restaurants, shops, etc. to satisfy all your other needs.

    While DC is not as cosmopolitan and sophisticated as San Francisco, there is a fair bit of ethnic diversity. An area of downtown called Adams Morgan has Ethiopian restaurants, Afghan, Soul food, Thai, Vietnamese, etc. and many interesting shops.

    The population is much more ethnically diverse than in California as well. The African-American population is much greater than in California and given the local embassies you will also run into more international citizens. The Hispanic and Asian population has really increased in the area over the last few years.

    Bear in mind that DC is much more conservative than SF and LA, and I expect, given the current administration, that that will continue. It is NOT a fashion forward area of the country! [​IMG]

    Finally, with regard to local medical schools, IMHO GW ranks second to Georgetown in local reputation (deserved or not), and far ahead of Howard (again deserved or not). USUHS, the military school, is located in Bethesda, MD - just outside of the district and enjoys an excellent reputation, although I'm not sure many "civilians" know much about it. There is much more "ooh-ahh" factor for Georgetown and GW.

    If you are concerned about sophistication, cosmopolitan and ethnically diverse population, then Hershey will disappoint you. They DO have Papa Johns, Wendys, McDonalds, BK, Taco Bell, etc. but a town of 11,000 simply cannot offer the diversity that a larger city can.

    All 3 are excellent schools of medicine and you will do well training at any of these three. Choose whichever one makes you feel most comfortable.

    Hope this helps.


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  8. s2417

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    Thanks kimberlicox! That's the most detailed description of DC I've heard. Hopefully, GW will accept me. Then I will have a reason to visit DC and the school (I had a regional interview).

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  9. Sure - glad I could help. I hope I didn't scare you with the crime stuff. I honestly LOVE the city and am glad Penn State (where I'll be for residency) is only 2 1/4 hours away (provided you don't hit the beltway during rush hour) so I can visit relatively often.

    I think its beautiful, with all the monuments, there is lots to do, the weather is fairly decent (although it does get humid in the summer)and there are lots of curious, intellectual young people there. Just stay away from the ones who want to show you their G strings! [​IMG]

    Like any major city, there are drawbacks - the traffic bites, the crime is worrisome (Stay off certain Metro lines late at night), there's always some construction downtown and the crowds are legion during the summer. But you'll find such a wide diversity of people and food, things to do and a good education that I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

    Good luck. I had misunderstood - thought you were already accepted to GW. Might not a second look trip be worth it?

     
  10. charlotte.sometimes

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    kimberlicox: You've sparked my curiosity; where in DC could one find a mansion and a crack-house within mere blocks?? Actually, one of the disturbing aspects of this city is that it can be so segregated. One could live in the northwest and never have to traverse into any other neighborhoods. Or, one could live in the privileged suburbs of NOVA or MD, take the metro into the 'nice' sections of the city, avoiding the perceived crime-ridden areas.

    But I digress . . .

    s2417: GW does have a good reputation in DC. As posted above, while it doesn't get as much recognition as G'town, it is very well respected. In addition to the District being diverse, the med school itself is extremely diverse. There are so many opportunities here . . . for example, I volunteer at one of the many free clinics. The school has a student/community outreach program that gets students involved in projects at local organizations such as free clinics, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, etc. There are also many numerous opportunities for research. Public transportation is another plus: between the bus and the metro, you can get anywhere. I know of quite a few students who bike to school. Myself, I take the bus everywhere or ride my bike. Hope this helps. But, really, if you are thinking of attending, you should definitely visit!

     

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