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Personable vs. Booksmart..Which would you want

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No Fear

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I'm curious, which do you think is better in the long run: getting straight A's in the basic science years and not very good clinical year scores, or B's during the basic sciences and having better clinical grades.

I ask this because I know many people in my class who think their s#@t doesn't stink because they are in the top 10-20% of the class, but they are horrible around patients and have really bad clinical skills.
 

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they will weed themselves out... that or beat their ass. either way they'll pay.
 

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I didnt do too hot on preclinical stuff so I am hoping clinical grades count more :laugh:
 

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I hope personable beats booksmart!!
 

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In the long run of what? Even your clinical grades won't matter to your patients once you are in your own practice. If you are asking what is favored more by residency committees or what will help you get AOA, your clinical scores tend to weigh heavier than your basic science scores. That being said, those classmates of yours who do not have the best interpersonal skills can still end up with high grades in the clinical years because, at many schools, a great portion of your rotation grade comes from an exam.
 

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Although I'd take personable over book-smart in any human being, the sad thing is that much of our education (and continuing education) is dependent on objective exams. Personality doesn't help there.

-Ice
 

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There's a place for each type. I would rather have an ultra-sensing booksmart type doing surgery on me, but a more personable Dr. will probably get more out of their patients.
 

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I want a girl w a nice ass, she doenst have to be that smart. as long as she has a nice butt.

later
 

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I've always heard that within class rank, the people with the lowest scores make the best doc's, the ones in the middle make the most $$ and the ones @ the top sit in a lab and don't care about $$ or people :)

1. I want to learn it. That puts me in the middle.
2. Hey, I'm a lovable guy :cool:
Ut..Oh..
 

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Hey No Fear, I see you registered in Oct. 1999. I think that even precedes Lee; to what do we owe your new-found presence at SDN?

-Ice
 

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omarsaleh66 said:
I want a girl w a nice ass, she doenst have to be that smart. as long as she has a nice butt.

later
If thats not personable then I dont know what is!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

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Clinical grades matter a lot more than basic science grades when it comes to matching... that's what I've taken away from many of the discussion on this board and from reading about residency applications. In our school at least, the majority of 3rd year grades are subjective clinical assessments.

However, I think the quiet people or nerdy people who do well in the basic sciences can still have great interpersonal and clinical skills... it's not mutually exclusive! Quiet people can have good listening skills, the ability to give organized presentations in front of a small group of people, empathy, social maturity, and other traits of good clinicians. I agree there is a rock-bottom where some people are too nervous to think straight, or their personal hygeine is terrible, or they can't do anything spontaneously. Most people who come to medical school though like being around other people.
 

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personable vs. booksmart are not mutually exclusive.
 

No Fear

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ice_23 said:
Hey No Fear, I see you registered in Oct. 1999. I think that even precedes Lee; to what do we owe your new-found presence at SDN?

-Ice


Uhh....would you believe the sun was in my eyes and I had a rock in my shoe ? I have been around, just not posting.
 

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We had a clinical correlation the other day with a cardiologist who mentioned that he knew many extremely bright physicians that had been sued mainly becuase the patient didn't feel that the doc cared about them and wouldn't just admit he was wrong when a mistake happened. He concluded by saying that patients don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. Kind of sappy, but true.
 
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