PHAR quits SDN....

[phar]

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My finale story......
-I came to SDN with the knowledege that interaction with fellow 'wannabe doctors' would be a great benefit. Indeed, i was wrong.

Overall picture:
.....It really shocked me to see the "inhumane promotions" on the everyone forum.

.....It really shocked me to see the childish manners amongst fellow pre-meds and medical students.

.....It really shocked me to see that my innocent daughter would be involved.

.....It really shocked me to see that my intergrity and dignity was questioned.

....It really shocked me to see that fellow SDNers don't how to argue

'Benefits' from the few good SDNers:
....I am glad to see that you share my humanitarian ambitions

...I am glad to see that you are determined.

....I am glad to have had those intellectual conservations despite the frequent childish responses.

.....determination is the key...good luck 😉

My losses:
....I wasted about 40hrs since i joined SDN(early march)
....I tried to convince idiots.
....I tried to make sense out of the inhumane ideologies that exist on SDN.
....I drunk more since i joined SDN(hmm, not a good thing)
....I broke up with my real-life girlfriend due to my less attention. Instead, i gave more attention to SDN.

To the moderator:
-I finally give you the opportunity to ban me. 😉 Double post(pre-allopatic and everyone forums where i am very popular)

To those still against me:
....Firstly, kiss my ass.
....Secondly, i will clap first for my retirement before you do.


Phar......
.....The Pacifist
.....The Future Doctor
.....The Father
.....The handsome guy
.....The guy who brought reality check to many SDNers.



Astalavista babehh.....................

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Let me be the first to wish you off.

Whoo-hoo!

 

[rirriri]

hey man, since i "quit" the Everyone forum, i didnt want to post a reply to you there! haha

so i came here...(yes, i feel so "demoted") haha.

i agree with you...the people in the *everyone* forum are very ignorant and closed minded. I find many of them to be extremely rude and irritating. They are not worth my valuable time.

however i think SDN is a very valuable resource for an aspiring physician. I have learned alot from many people regarding my future plans and my preparation for these plans. After quitting the *everyone* forum, i have better spent my time on SDN.

either way, take it easy my man, and all the best for medical school.

CHEERS!!!

 

[JamesTopes]

What a weirdo

 

[Ramoray]

man you hvae WAY too much time on your hands, i never even knew who you were and i actually check these boards somewhat frequently.. id love to say youll be missed but i dont know who the **** ya were.. either way.. agreed plenty of tools on sdn but ya dont let them get to ya. .u just realize most of them lack real social lives and need sdn so dont feel bad.. either way good luck even though i hvae no ****ign clue who u are or were

 

[ColoradoCCT]

what is the "everyone forum"?

 

[sketchyMcG]

Beat it shiitty, ya ain't liked anyway.

 

[kito]

i think phar would have had a much more pleasant experience on SDN had he been a bit more civil. but then again i'm not telling you anything that you didn't already know.

 

[Dr Chooch]

My pee-pee hurts.

 

[Explosivo]

 

[FZISHN]

posted by Phar-

Overall picture:

.....It really shocked me to see that my intergrity and dignity was questioned.
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But Phar, why would we question either your integrity or dignity? You never gave us any reason to do so!

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....It really shocked me to see that fellow SDNers don't how to argue
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Yet Phar was a master debater. Or something like that.

MCAT lunch, yumm!

 

[lola]

they everyone forum sucks. why is everyone there super conservative with no respect for anyone who is not? almost everyone there has no compassion for human beings who are different from themselves, and i am very scared that they are the future doctors of america.
we won't really miss you, phar. after all, you're contributing to the competitiveness of this process and making it worse for the rest of us by lying on your applications.

 

[Samoa]

Originally posted by lola
we won't really miss you, phar. after all, you're contributing to the competitiveness of this process and making it worse for the rest of us by lying on your applications.

You know, I'm always shocked to hear that people actually do this, and yet I know very well how common it is. It doesn't matter to me that phar didn't get in to the schools where he lied. The fact that he did so at all, on any application, is grounds enough in my opinion for his acceptances to be revoked everywhere else.

I also think it's childish to withdraw from a group just because other people disapprove of what you say, or because some of them say nasty things to you. If they kick you out, that's one thing. But to leave a group on your own for any reason other than a better opportunity or outlet for your individuality elsewhere indicates a lack of character.

 

[profunda]

Hi phar. This is my first post. I dont know much about sdn, but I have been reading some posts before signing up. In a way, I cannot believe the responses that are posted up on this thread. I can respect someone who can speak his mind, not being pretentious like some posters here. Dont let others here bog you down. The very people who claim you create a negative atmosphere are the ones who are potentiating that on this thread, so I will contribute to some positivity here: Good luck whereever you will be.

PS. Why are people taking posts here so personally, like they are talking to their closest friends or family members? This is an internet setting involving discussions with complete strangers without the display of facial or verbal expressions. I think people here should stop being derogatory ("what a weirdo," how contributing is that?) and let's intellectually discuss (pre)med issues without taking things so personally with all these emotions.

 

[ashkan33]

wow, what a tool. if you are blaming sdn for ruining your relationship then your girlfriend must think you are more of a tool than we do. i'm not sure what the "everyone" forum is, but i can tell you this much: if you don't like it, don't go there. the truth is, the people on sdn are the people you see everyday. they're the poeple in your undergrad, your medschool, the people you run into at the movies. you get the point? did you think everybody on sdn is going to be exactly like you? was this the first time you've every interacted with people on a larger scale. i'm sure it is because everything you said(can't convice people, people are rude, etc) i learned in highschool. the sad thing is, i bet you're 35, still living with the parents, and now you don't even have a girlfriend. life sucks for you buddy.....

 

[profunda]

I believe every single application out there has "a lie" in it. Are you going to tell me you and your fellow applicants didnt overexaggerate anything on your application, ie, "I love volunteering at the hospital; it was one of the best experiences of my life."

I mean, you can call it overexaggeration, but there is no difference between that and lying to me. Either way, you're not telling your whole truth.

Which brings up another point. Why are people on sdn seemingly so righteous (I am always right and moral; I side with the majority; therefore, stone others who do not think what i think)? I am a new poster, but that's the vibe I seem to get.

Originally posted by Samoa
You know, I'm always shocked to hear that people actually do this, and yet I know very well how common it is. It doesn't matter to me that phar didn't get in to the schools where he lied. The fact that he did so at all, on any application, is grounds enough in my opinion for his acceptances to be revoked everywhere else.

I also think it's childish to withdraw from a group just because other people disapprove of what you say, or because some of them say nasty things to you. If they kick you out, that's one thing. But to leave a group on your own for any reason other than a better opportunity or outlet for your individuality elsewhere indicates a lack of character.

 

[Samoa]

If you were on an adcom, I would challenge you to find one lie, or even an exaggeration, in my application.

That's why it pisses me off when people exaggerate and lie. It diminishes my application in comparison. I worked hard on every single thing I talk about, and left many things off because there wasn't room. For someone who's done none of those things simply to make them up so they can "play the game" offends me.

You can call me self-righteous if you like. My feet are not made of clay on this point.

Originally posted by profunda
I believe every single application out there has "a lie" in it. Are you going to tell me you and your fellow applicants didnt overexaggerate anything on your application, ie, "I love volunteering at the hospital; it was one of the best experiences of my life."

I mean, you can call it overexaggeration, but there is no difference between that and lying to me. Either way, you're not telling your whole truth.

Which brings up another point. Why are people on sdn seemingly so righteous (I am always right and moral; I side with the majority; therefore, stone others who do not think what i think)? I am a new poster, but that's the vibe I seem to get.

 

[Explosivo]

Originally posted by profunda
I believe every single application out there has "a lie" in it.

Yes and the paranoid schizophrenic walking down my block believes the CIA implanted a chip under his skin to track him. A lot of people believe a lot of things.

Are you going to tell me you and your fellow applicants didnt overexaggerate anything on your application, ie, "I love volunteering at the hospital; it was one of the best experiences of my life."

I didn't write something like that. How many applications have you read? There were absolutely no lies in my application. I didn't exaggerate anything. I simply stated how I felt and that was it. Perhaps your the one who has a problem with lying...not everyone else.

I mean, you can call it overexaggeration, but there is no difference between that and lying to me. Either way, you're not telling your whole truth.

Great, you're debating something you know nothing about. Tell us again how many application you've read.

Which brings up another point. Why are people on sdn seemingly so righteous (I am always right and moral; I side with the majority; therefore, stone others who do not think what i think)? I am a new poster, but that's the vibe I seem to get.

Yes and as a new poster what you type on here is DEVOID of any HISTORICAL CONTEXT. I'm not sure what you know of the "phar" character but he has a reputation on here for nonsensical posts and shooting his mouth off atop his "moral-high-horse."

Secondly, dedicating a thread to announce that you are leaving are the hallmarks of an attention-*****. Furthermore, the fact that he cross-posted the thread in the everyone forum only enhances this impression.

How about this, if one is leaving SDN why not PM the select few friends they have on here telling them so and just walk away? Why the need to bring attention to oneself? There are thousands of registered users on here, does one feel himself so important that he needs to announce to everyone he is leaving? For chrissakes, the guy's been a poster for all of 2 months!

I maintain my feelings. If he has a problem with the forum, let him take it up with CMZ or one of the moderators. Acts like his are done for the sake of pity and I do not pity him one bit. He dug his own grave on here.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

I'm curious--what did phar lie about? (I usually avoided reading his posts b/c they were usually crude, laden with personal attacks, and only tangentially related to the topic of the thread.)

For the record, I avoided even exaggeration on my applications. (1) I would have been uncomfortable doing so, and (2) I wouldn't have wanted to risk getting called on it during an interview. I'm with Samoa and Explosivo.

 

[FZISHN]

hmmmm...I wonder why he left....

What was the final straw???
😕 😕 😕

Phar told adcoms that he had coauthored research papers that had been published (which he did not). He justified this by saying he spent too much money to get to those interviews.

He is also very inconsistent about his difficult life as a runaway at 14 (or is it 16?), a foster child, a father at 14 (or 16). With no help at all, Phar attended Harvard on a full tuition scholarship but still only had $10 grand in loans when he left Harvard and yet still partied and drank alochol every day.

His grammar/spelling is atrocious, but he graduated Harvard with a dual degree in history and biochemistry.

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My losses:
....I wasted about 40hrs since i joined SDN(early march)
....I tried to convince idiots.
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If Phar was so phenomenal (Harvard education) that he posted 372 posts in a mere 40 hours, then he posted approximately 9 posts/hour or 6.5 minutes/post. That explains how much actual thinking went into each post.

And that is why Phar couldn't convince anyone of anything. The sole reason. Right.

😎

 

[Ginza]

If I remember correctly, he applied to two schools that placed a really heavy emphasis on research. I guess Phar didn't have any research experience, but he lied on his applications to those two schools, saying that he had the experience and was even published. But he claimed that since he wasn't accepted to these schools, it didn't matter that he lied.

I'll refrain from expressing my opinion about phar since I don't think it's fair to bash someone I've never met and therefore don't really know......but I'll cherish some of the "gems" that he's posted in the past. If nothing else they were entertaining. I really liked the one where he said he was accepted to both pharmd and md programs, but didn't know which one to pick because he didn't like blood.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Wow, those are some pretty big whoppers. I didn't even put my publications on my resume b/c they were either only submitted or under revise-and-resubmit (which is imminent publication). I was able to tell some schools this at interview, but not all of them.

 

[profunda]

I think people on here really need to quit being so personal, emotional, self-righteous, and self-defensive.

I'm also quitting out of this preallo forum. This forum is ridiculously hostile.

Originally posted by Samoa
If you were on an adcom, I would challenge you to find one lie, or even an exaggeration, in my application.

That's why it pisses me off when people exaggerate and lie. It diminishes my application in comparison. I worked hard on every single thing I talk about, and left many things off because there wasn't room. For someone who's done none of those things simply to make them up so they can "play the game" offends me.

You can call me self-righteous if you like. My feet are not made of clay on this point.

 

[Adcadet]

I don't think it's wrong to list papers that have been submitted or even "in progress" as long as you denote that appropriately (put "submitted to J. of Whatever" or "provisionally accepted to J. of Whatever" - adcoms will know exactly what you mean)

It's one thing to round up the amount of time you spent volunteering places - if you start in mid-January and end mid-June, I don't think it's absolutely atrocious to list it as "Jan - June". But to lie about a publication is horrible. If I were on an adcom and found at that somebody lied on an application, even to a different school, I'd make it a point to notify EVERY medical school about this. If somebody lies about one thing, what else are they lying about?

 

[VienneseWaltz]

In hindsight, I think you're probably right, Adcadet. In my case, it didn't matter, but those applying this year might want to consider it if they're in that situation.

 

[surge]

Originally posted by phar
.....It really shocked me to see the childish manners amongst fellow pre-meds and medical students.
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.....It really shocked me to see that my intergrity and dignity was questioned.
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....It really shocked me to see that fellow SDNers don't how to argue
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....I broke up with my real-life girlfriend due to my less attention. Instead, i gave more attention to SDN.
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.....The Pacifist
.....The Future Doctor
.....The Father
.....The handsome guy
.....The guy who brought reality check to many SDNers.

HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

LMAO! OH MY GOD, I HAVEN'T LAUGHED THIS HARD IN SO LONG!!!!

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, PHAR!!!




Unfortunately, I remember when phar was starting out, about 300 of his posts ago, when he would end each of his brilliant posts with something like 'and this is the last thing I say'... 🙄

God, please let this be it....

 

[Explosivo]

I had a paper which was in submission and presented it as such on my application. Thankfully it was accepted recently so I had a nice little update to give to the adcoms.

Adcadet is right. As long as you note it is under review or a manuscript has been submitted, that should be enough. There's no deception going on in that case.

 

[JamesTopes]

To add what others have written, Phar made up some research papers and some phony professor on his application. He then advised others to do the same and was brazen about it. It was only later that he qualified his advice by saying that the schools he did it at rejected his ass but the ones he didnt use the phony papers accepted him. Why he thought this was good advice when it didnt work him was typical of Phar logic.

The guy was an incredible ***** who couldnt string together a sentence with a coherent thought and his command of the english language was always a source of entertainment because he claimed to be a Harvard grad.

I think the reason Phar quit was because Fzishn was systematically calling Phar out on his pack of bull**** lies. I think it made him nervous that people were considering turning him in and the amount of lies he was telling got out of hand.

I dont know if he was stupid enough to actually post true stuff about himself ( the MCAT masturbatuion story was probably true considering how much a pathetic character he is) but he did say that he was going to Upstate (SUNY?) for medical school and did mention some other places that he got into. i wouldnt mind sending AMCAS some info on this joker so they open a investigation on him and speed along some karmic justice.


*Writing that a paper has been accepted for publication is standard practice on CVs and applications so theres nothing wrong with that. Saying that something has been submitted for review is not worth anything so you should avoid doing that.

 

[profunda]

Why is everyone expressing all this anger and frustration? Let phar and this thread go. What is the point of criticizing and expressing all these emotions on the internet? It is not going to stop one person from lying on their application, and from what i can see, will do nothing positive except potentiate this thread.

The point I'm trying to make: i just think it would help you yourself and other sdn members if you type with less true emotions.

 

[bw07]

Anyone else find it funny that phar has to make up other names to defend himself because no one else will?

 

[dreaminOfMD>.<]

.....It really shocked me to see the childish manners amongst fellow pre-meds and medical students.

...and he goes on to say...

....I tried to convince idiots.

...and...

....Firstly, kiss my ass.

???

 

[FZISHN]

posted by profunda

I think people on here really need to quit being so personal, emotional, self-righteous, and self-defensive.

I'm also quitting out of this preallo forum. This forum is ridiculously hostile.
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posted later by profunda

Why is everyone expressing all this anger and frustration? Let phar and this thread go. What is the point of criticizing and expressing all these emotions on the internet? It is not going to stop one person from lying on their application, and from what i can see, will do nothing positive except potentiate this thread.

The point I'm trying to make: i just think it would help you yourself and other sdn members if you type with less true emotions.
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So get out of this "preallo forum" already!

You seem more emotional about this thread than anyone else.
🙄 🙄

 

[SouthernGirl]

I that move we just let this God-awful thread die already. All in favor?

 

[LUBDUBB]

Sorry for beating the dead horse.....

I just wanted to bid phar farewell. He should have used SND to find some info about being premed rather than engage in confrontations. But I must admit, although some of us can be helpful at times - peoples' quirks really manifest themsevles. Wrapped in the cloak of a 56k modem, many members fire off with personal attacks on people they don't even know.

So those of you who have been helpful, keep it up!! But to those tattle-tale dorks who wanted to turn that one member in for quasiplagiarism on her personal statement, then I suggest you leave. 🙂

~Lubdubb

 

[mh2002ny]

Nooooooo!!!!!!! Pharrrrrrrrr!!!!!! Please Oh Please Come Back!!!!! SDN will never be the same with out you!!!!!!!🙁 🙁 🙁


Actually I'm just messing around....I don't even know who the heck he is....but some of his posts were freakin awkward .

 

[Osteoblasts]

What's all this fuss about Phar? I don't know him but read few of his posts. If he lied, so what???? Don't tell me you never lied because you would be a liar if you said so. Get a grip guys!!!Everyone on SDN is not truthful or else they would have posted thier real name and other informations. Anyway, good luck Phar.

 

[FZISHN]

Originally posted by Osteoblasts
What's all this fuss about Phar? I don't know him but read few of his posts. If he lied, so what???? Don't tell me you never lied because you would be a liar if you said so. Get a grip guys!!!Everyone on SDN is not truthful or else they would have posted thier real name and other informations. Anyway, good luck Phar.

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Osteoblasts-
Your post reminds me of someone else's nonsensical statements.
Yes, I must be a huge liar since I did not post my real name on this site. Since I use the handle "Fzishn" and not my real name, I am a horrible liar.

Also, if you only read a few of Phar's 350+ posts, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

This thread is pointless. I wish a moderator would close it.

😛 😛 😛

 

[Osteoblasts]

Originally posted by FZISHN
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Osteoblasts-
Your post reminds me of someone else's nonsensical statements.
Yes, I must be a huge liar since I did not post my real name on this site. Since I use the handle "Fzishn" and not my real name, I am a horrible liar.

Also, if you only read a few of Phar's 350+ posts, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

This thread is pointless. I wish a moderator would close it.

😛 😛 😛

🙄

 

[tms]

Originally posted by FZISHN
This thread is pointless. I wish a moderator would close it.

Then stop posting on it.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by Osteoblasts
What's all this fuss about Phar? I don't know him but read few of his posts. If he lied, so what???? Don't tell me you never lied because you would be a liar if you said so. Get a grip guys!!!Everyone on SDN is not truthful or else they would have posted thier real name and other informations. Anyway, good luck Phar.

So to avoid being a liar, I probably should post my Social Security number, home address and phone number, too, and give my regular e-mail address and credit card number to everyone who asks for it.

 

[Osteoblasts]

Originally posted by VienneseWaltz
So to avoid being a liar, I probably should post my Social Security number, home address and phone number, too, and give my regular e-mail address and credit card number to everyone who asks for it.

You are exagerating my point. I wouldn't mind if you posted your credit card number and social security number😉

We all lie, whether you want to believe me or not. I think phar stated that no human being perfect and he is right. During an interview, alot of people exaggerate about themselves and thier accomplishments. I think one of the posts on this thread gave an example.

 

[FZISHN]

quote:
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Originally posted by FZISHN
This thread is pointless. I wish a moderator would close it.
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posted by tms

Then stop posting on it.

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How will that close the thread when there are so many other people posting as well?

 

[Mig24x]

You are the weakest link, goodbye!!!

 

[Moskeeto]

Originally posted by Osteoblasts
What's all this fuss about Phar? I don't know him but read few of his posts. If he lied, so what???? Don't tell me you never lied because you would be a liar if you said so. Get a grip guys!!!Everyone on SDN is not truthful or else they would have posted thier real name and other informations. Anyway, good luck Phar.

Okay, as much as I hate contributing to this post, come on man, you admit that you live with him here http://www.studentdoctor.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65870 AND you even have it in your signature. No wonder you don't think its wrong to lie.

On a completely unrelated note, can someone say they quit smoking cigarettes even if they just changed brands?

 

[indo]

Who is Phar?

 

[JamesTopes]

Originally posted by Osteoblasts
What's all this fuss about Phar? I don't know him but read few of his posts. If he lied, so what???? Don't tell me you never lied because you would be a liar if you said so. Get a grip guys!!!Everyone on SDN is not truthful or else they would have posted thier real name and other informations. Anyway, good luck Phar.

Didnt you say that youre his roomate in another post. Lieing is quite different from the fraud he comitted. Fudging up fake papers and nonexistant professors is one the highest sins of academic dishonesty and would result in people losing their degrees, geting fired, or losing their tenure.

You and your buddy Phar dont sound like the sharpest tools at Harvard or is it Harvard Extension school that you jokers are enrolled in.

 

[Kovox]

Originally posted by Osteoblasts
What's all this fuss about Phar? I don't know him but read few of his posts. If he lied, so what???? Don't tell me you never lied because you would be a liar if you said so. Get a grip guys!!!Everyone on SDN is not truthful or else they would have posted thier real name and other informations. Anyway, good luck Phar.

I must quote you Osteoblasts. In the "Lounge" you said you were Phar's roomate and now you post you don't know him.

I dislike liars but I dislike BAD liars worst.

 

[surge]

I bet they're both the same person.

Oh, well, who gives a **** 🙄

 

[FZISHN]

Originally posted by JamesTopes


You and your buddy Phar dont sound like the sharpest tools at Harvard or is it Harvard Extension school that you jokers are enrolled in.

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Okay guys, previously Phar was bordering on pathetic. He has teetered over the edge now with with his two supposed roommates. 3 out of 5 guys gaining Harvard educations (and double majors) who still have tons of time to post on SDN.

Once again Phar and Osteoblast-
If you must lie, please keep track of your lies, you silly kids.

What a bunch of Dumba#&es.

 

[Osteoblasts]

check the timing/sequence of my last 8 or 9 posts. Then, determine the reason why i chose to state that phar was my roomate(hint: lola's bitterness).😉 Anyway, get a life you guys!