Thanks for correcting my faulty memory. A good example of why a certain school is promoting a doctor of behavioral health degree.
this reads like one of those Nigerian email scams.
5. Who would WANT 3 adjunct positions?
I'm willing to bet $100 that he is now faculty at the University of Cumberland, the online PhD program he went to that has a 31% graduation rate, and is now trying to solicit applications from suckers to give him job security.
Guess NY is one of those states!Of the various state licensing bodies, outside of multiple relationships with clients (typically romantic/sexual or financial in nature), the main reason for disciplinary actions seems to be misleading the public about credentials and scope.
Extreme Hardship Immigration Evaluations in NYC | George J. Ramos
His LinkedIn profile says he is assistant professor at the school he got his masters degree in.
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Of the various state licensing bodies, outside of multiple relationships with clients (typically romantic/sexual or financial in nature), the main reason for disciplinary actions seems to be misleading the public about credentials and scope.
Holy crap is this an ethical and professional minefield.
What is the literature basis for "extreme hardship" evaluations? What are the professional and assessment guidelines for these evaluations? How sound are the psychometrics for whatever instruments are being used for this purpose? Are SVTs and PVTs being used, especially as there is so much potential secondary gain?
Does this person have sufficient training in general assessment and in this particularly niche specialty area of forensic psych?
About Dr. Ramos — NYC Immigration Evals - Dr. Ramos
How is he competent to evaluate people from all these disparate cultural backgrounds?
What are the protections to assure that these extremely vulnerable people are not being taken advantage of? How could they possibly be aware of the standards of the field and whether this person is qualified to do these evaluations?
What does that even mean? No take-home tests?
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We may be tough, but we’re fair. On your site you say in multiple locations that you are conducting “Immigrant Psychological Evaluations.” Use of the word “psychological,” alone or in combination with other words, is restricted to licensed psychologists or exempt entities. If you don’t fit into either of these categories, you could likely be considered (by the board of psychology) to be practicing psychology without a license. You should review the following website:
Ah, so you own a thesaurus.
You are welcome. I sincerely hope that this was just an issue of you not being aware of protected terminology and you will actually make the changes. Ideally, you’d also assure that any services you provide fall within your training and appropriate scope of practice. Many of us here also work with vulnerable populations and will take VERY SERIOUSLY our ethical obligations to protect such groups from potential exploitation, up to and including informing the appropriate authority if less formal methods are not effective.
This is not rude or mean-spirited - I'm genuinely curious. What is said distinction in this context?
Understood. But how are you identifying the practical distinction in content between a mental health eval and psych eval?
Again, what is the difference? For example, how would you explain this to a potential client?
Ok, now explain it for everyone here who has been trained in assessment. What, specifically, is different other than the instruments themselves?
What content can a psych eval include (in this context) that a mental health eval can't? (Aside from the word "psychological," which can become semantics at some point.) I've done work in this exact area and with this population and worked directly with a doctoral level forensic psychologist. I'm curious how those reports we prepared might differ from yours in content.
I believe it was my post that introduced concerns about the use of the term. I was most definitely not taking a positions regarding the meaning of the term (i.e., “semantics”), but on the use of the term. Regardless of the meaning of the term, it’s use in reference to clinical services is restricted in his jurisdiction. It’s not a minor point (in fact, in all this thread it might be the most objective and clear position presented). It’s not my opinion regarding what this guy is doing, but an empirical observation of what he is calling what he is doing on his website and how that seems to be conflict with the stated position/practice of the board. It’s not a “should or should not” opinion based on my personal feelings, but a “can or cant’” position based on the exact wording of the board position statement. Where semantics and regulations compete, the regs will win every time.
So, you're saying that you don't know what the difference is other than not using instruments that explicitly require doctoral level training, even though you have been going on and on about how there's a difference between mental health and psychological evaluations?This is a good start. Usually you want to work with someone who already has experiences with these Evals before doing your own. Physicians for Humanifg
I’m not totally sure outside of some protected tests that psychologist use. These reports are evaluations done that look at Harship for a qualifying citizen.
I’m not sure how to better answer the question. But to say again, Evals and assessments regarding mental health are not proprietary to psychologist. Social workers and counselors evaluate and assess daily in practice.
I'm not sure what you mean. You're the one who created this dichotomy between mental health evaluations and psychological evaluations but haven't really explained anything when it comes to delineating their differences. In your comment to which I was replying, when asked how one of the mental health evaluation reports differs, you said that you're "not totally sure outside of some protected tests that psychologist use."
It seems like you're deflecting. If there is a difference and you're practicing inside your scope, why can't you articulate it and describe the differences between these two kinds of evaluations?
Hey again,
I've tried to answer this question, in good faith, as many times as I could.
I still am wondering, in your interpretation, can counselors provide evaluations? In my state we are allowed to do so. I am unsure if your question is more rhetorical in nature.
No gotcha games here... simply curious. I hoping this is a conversation and not an interrogation.
How would you characterize the difference?
Have you work on immigration mental health evals?
