Hello, I was having some issues posting in this section, but was able to figure it out...*whew* Okay, so a little background before I get to my question. I'm 31, have a B.A. in Psychology with a minor in Religious Studies from San Diego State University (GPA below a 3.0...VERY long story...not enough time to explain). I also have a Masters in Business Administration in Marketing from American InterContinental University Online (GPA 3.4). Why do I have a MBA? Why did I choose an online school? Well, I am first generation College Student in my family. I did not know what I was doing. A few "wise" counselors told me that if I wanted to be a Psychologist (which at one point I did want this), that I should seek a Masters in Business because that would give me the advantage, if I want to run my own practice. Now, this was all good and fine, except that is not how it works at all. At any rate, here I am...whatever was done is done, and I cannot change the past. I am over it. I thought about doing a DBA, but frankly that is not me at all. I am really not a very wise person when it comes to money and all that jazz. I am learning though, so that is good. Because of my low GPA in my under grad, I felt stuck and just was happy to receive some kind of Masters Degree, again my family was proud of me because I was the first etc etc etc. Well now I am not sure what the heck to do. I have some ideas, but nothing certain yet. I DEFINITELY want to get a PhD. I will get one, even if it kills me. Again that whole thing about being first, blah blah blah. I am pretty driven, and a hard worker, and I don't take "no" for a final answer. I always find a way, even if there seems to be no way. I guess that is sort of stubborn, but can be beneficial if you know what I mean. Also, I should note that I live in San Diego if you have not already figured that out and I love it here. My family is here, my friends are here, San Diego is considered America's Finest City, and so it is a done deal. I am staying here, not relocating anywher else, not even Los Angeles. Period. If it sounds somewhat closed minded, that is fine, I can deal with that...but I will not relocate for school purposes. No thanks. So I have been doing some searching and looking up all the possibilities. Going back to San Diego State University in my condition is just not going to work. Their program requires things that I don't have, such as a strong GPA, and research experience. Plus SDSU is sort of a party school and last I heard Playboy likes to come to SDSU to recruit playmates....ummm, no thanks. UCSD was another possibility (that is where all the smart girls go), again same song, different verse, I simply will not pass their GPA requirement. The MBA GPA helps me a little bit, to show that I CAN do well, but the only problem is that it is from an Online School, sounds really bad, and not many will take me in. USD does not have a PhD in Psychology, and even if they did, they are a private school and I just cannot afford that. By the way, I WILL NOT BE TAKING OUT LOANS TO PAY FOR MY PhD. No sir, not a chance. So then I looked into schools such as National University, University of Phoenix, Argosy, Alliant, and all those schools just seem not worth it to me. Not only are they expensive, but their credibility is low, and I will not be taking out loans to fund another bogus degree that will get me no where except in debt like my MBA did. Been there, done that already. I learned my lesson. I am a Christian, so I thought about the Christian Universities around here. Point Loma Nazarene and Asuza University, pretty much all require a Masters in Psychology, and that is something I do not have. Soooo once again, what to do? What to do? Well, I found a possible match for me. San Diego University For Integrative Studies (SDUIS) Here is a link that takes you straight to the degree I am looking into, a PhD in Psychology with a Specialization in Expressive Arts Therapy. http://sduis.edu/academic-programs/...chology-specializationexpressive-arts-therapy Now mind you, that it is NOT APA accredited, but at this point it really does not matter to me anymore. I am not trying to be a Clinical Psychologist here. I think that ship sailed a long time ago for me and I am okay with that. SDUIS, is a small private school that looks at things from a natural and holistic point of view. They even make it very clear on one of their pages that they will NOT be going for the APA accredidation simply because they do not believe in that alone. They really emphasis healing and counseling through mind, body and spirit...something that clinical psychology often over looks. This is what is found on one of their pages. They claim to be..... "A cohesive group of educators who believe in the concepts of humanistic philosophy and who acknowledge the individual's capacity for choice, responsibility, and spiritual insight. Our awareness of the relationship between mind, body, and spirit forms the basis for a socially, culturally, and environmentally relevant educational process and experience which we call "Integrative Studies." They have been in existence since 1999, and although they have an online program, if accepted I will actually be going to class, no more online studies for me. The program is 105 quarter units, and since I do not have a M.A., they clearly state that one is not necessary for me to get into their PhD program because I will be asked to show proof of my MBA and then asked to take additional courses to get caught up with the other students. This is something I plan to discuss further with them. Although they are a private school, their prices are reasonable. I will need 105 quarter units to complete the PhD including a dissertation, and each unit costs $240. So around 25K or so. Not too bad, doable for me. I can make payments each month and would not need to take out loans. So my question is, should I go for it? I know that no one can decide that for me, but if anyone wants to chime in with their two cents, I will carefully listen and consider your thoughts. Is this the very best I can do considering my current position now? What exactly can I do with this type of degree. I am actually a very creative person and do believe in the Arts, which is another reason I like this school. I really stink at statistical data and analysis. Here is where they talk about their stance on APA accreditation. Q. Is the school American Psychological Associations (APA) approved? A. In order for a school to be APA approved they must first be WASC accredited. However, even once SDUIS becomes accredited we will not be seeking APA approval. SDUIS will not participate in APA approval for the following reasons: our foundation is of a humanistic, holistic, and applied nature with emphasis on a balanced approach to everything we do. APA strictly focuses on clinical research and also mandates all faculty-members to be APA approved. Such mandates would narrow our scope and philosophy. While research and clinical work are an important part in all of our programs, we also emphasize the human and applied aspects. APA approval has no bearing in sitting for the licensing exam, the validity of your degree, or for your ability to become a successful practitioner in California. Please check with your State licensing board for the licensing requirements. Does this University sound credible to you? Can I become a successful Expressive Arts Therapy Counselor through them? Will people discredit my degree if I earned one from SDUIS? Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Concerns? Is this the very best I can do and that is within my reach both financially and academically? I feel there is nothing else out there for me considering my situation. I do enjoy the arts a great deal. $25K is not that bad, all things being equal, and what other option do I have? I am kind of liking this University's approach to health and well-being. I sort of believe what they believe....mind, body, and spirit. Holistic.