1. The SDN iPhone App is back and free through November! Get it today and please post a review on the App Store!
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Dismiss Notice
  3. Guest, be sure to check out How To Get Into Dental School, our free downloadable PDF with step-by-step details for dental school applicants!
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice

Interview Feedback: Visit Interview Feedback to view and submit interview information.

Interviewing Masterclass: Free masterclass on interviewing from SDN and Medical College of Georgia

Pissed off at Iowa

Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by ArmoredTooth, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Not like I want to study in the middle of corn fields and hicks.

    But today, the admissions office sent me an email with a letter attached to it, stating that their admissions committee has decided to defer my application.

    Then there's the BS that follows "due to the dramatic increases in highly qualified applicants to our program....."

    My foot! I know this girl who got into that cornfield dental program with 17s and 18s on her DAT!

    Oh well, I'm going to call their admissions office tomorrow and find out why they deferred me. :mad:
     
  2. Note: SDN Members do not see this ad.

  3. tncekm

    tncekm MS-1
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    3,619
    Likes Received:
    4
    Status:
    Medical Student
    It should be obvious when they clearly stated "due to the dramatic increases in highly qualified applicants to our program....."

    Better luck next time.
     
  4. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    아이고 니참우낀다!! 유아어 빅바보 보이 !! :D �
     
  5. HermeytheElf

    HermeytheElf Guest

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2005
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Is this the way you're going to act every time you get a rejection? Rejection is part of the application process...each school has specific things they are looking for. Apparently Iowa didn't think you were a good fit for their school and you need to accept that and learn to deal with that in a more appropriate manner. To be honest, many of your posts on this board reflect a lack of maturity. It seems like every time someone says something which disagrees with you, you lash out with inappropriate(albeit editted) language or offensive remarks (see the cornfield reference in the original post). Iowa might be doing you (and your future patients) a favor by not taking you this cycle and allowing you a little time to grow up.
     
  6. NDdental

    NDdental Junior Member
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    I don't know if this applies to you or not, but I have heard that Iowa's school is big on connections to the school through a dentist or a relative. I'm guessing maybe this is a possible reason.

    Don't worry though, you'll get in somewhere else.
     
  7. apaul

    apaul Some Dude
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2006
    Messages:
    570
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Dental Student
    hmmm, my wife's cousin goes to Iowa, good thing I married her huh? :p that must be why they're showing me some love :D
     
  8. beannaithe

    beannaithe Bionerd
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2005
    Messages:
    814
    Likes Received:
    43
    Status:
    Dentist
    Just call them and ask them what you can do to be considered competitive for next year, liek what you need to be improve on.

    I wouldn't get that upset/mad over it. Rejection is a natural part of the process and you're better off at a school that wants you there. If it were me, I'd be way happier that they reject me before I jumped through the hoops of an interview.

    There will be other schools. :)
     
  9. wireless_doc

    wireless_doc Member
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2006
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Dental Student
    I had high GPA and very high DAT. They rejected me early too. It think it was because I was from a different state.
     
  10. tinman831

    tinman831 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Administrator Dentist Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    11,348
    Likes Received:
    73
    Status:
    Dentist
    Meh. I remember it hurt for the first 5 rejection letters I got. Then I started getting used to it. Just accept it and move on. Another school will accept you and you'll forget all about that "cornfield dental program." :luck:
     
  11. RockstarDMD

    RockstarDMD sUcCeSs iS mY OnLY OpTioN
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    501
    Likes Received:
    0
    Iowa mostly accepts "residents". In the past they have had a few spots for "non-residents". I think with dramatic increase in applicants across the country Iowa is producing enough interested applicants, and as a result you have been deferred. However, deferred is not the same as rejected it just means they want to look at the resident apps first.
     
  12. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    OMG?!! Do you have dislexia like this other guy?

    I never said I got "rejected" READ my damn posts carefully! :mad: I said I got deferred meaning that the committee will look at my application again in the future.


    Apparently you have poor reading comp skills don't you?

    Because you said things that weren't true (i.e. you got "rejected" from dental school) which of course would make any sane person angry. Next time read the fine prints carefully!

    *sigh* you're just like this other guy from the pre-med forum (not going to mention any names here). I hope you read things carefully so you don't piss your patients off in the future by screwing over their medical bills. :laugh:
     
  13. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Why thank you Rockstar DMD for reading my post carefully!!!
    I didn't get "rejected" as hermeney stated.
    You will be successful dentist! :thumbup:

    Yeah, I do know that state schools prefer to select their residents because of the fact that in-state applicants pay taxes to fund the state government, which in turn funds the dental school.

    Oh well, I will work on other school's secondaries for now.
     
  14. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    LLOOOOLLL thanks for the cheers tinman.

    I'm just curious which dental school you plan on attending, since it sounds like you've already gone through the admissions cycle last year?
     
  15. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    I have called the admissions office this morning and left a message for one of the counselors to call me back.

    I'm thinking that I've been deferred because I will be re-taking the DAT in September, so they want to see how I perform on my second DAT.
     
  16. HermeytheElf

    HermeytheElf Guest

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2005
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better...bottom line is that you won't be Iowa City come next fall. I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm just being honest with you. Iowa is very selective about who they take from out of state, and you have stats on the lower end of average. I have no doubts you'll get in somewhere, but I don't think its going to be Iowa and in the future you shouldn't get so upset over a rejection.
     
  17. tinman831

    tinman831 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Administrator Dentist Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    11,348
    Likes Received:
    73
    Status:
    Dentist
    Yup. I went through all that hooplah last year. I'll be headed off to Tufts in a couple of weeks. :)
     
  18. rambo2006

    rambo2006 Be a DDS or die trying
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2005
    Messages:
    427
    Likes Received:
    2
    Status:
    Dental Student
    I'm not sure if you are an iowa resident or not but before going down the check list of schools to apply to, make sure they are schools that give non-residents a fair shot. Some schools like UMKC will tell you right away that if your DAT score is less then 23 in each section, don bother applying. Last cycle I applied to 15 schools and I either got accepted, rejected or on waitlist, but never deferred so I dont really know about that. Again....to all applicants, before you apply make sure each school is a school you have a resonable shot at. Some state schools do take non-residents and it is worthwhile to apply to them.

    good luck,
     
  19. apaul

    apaul Some Dude
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2006
    Messages:
    570
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Dental Student
    all I can say is wow. . . the OP went crazy go nuts
     
  20. Notoriousjae

    Notoriousjae DAT Rockstar
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    468
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental

    :laugh: i agree.
     
  21. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Well, at least all the stress of applying to dental school is off your back!

    Going to Tufts!?? Damn, that's a nice dental school located in the bustline area near downtown Boston.

    In fact I stopped by Tuft's Dental School in mid-July. Unfortunately it was a Saturday and the building was locked down. But I like the location, and all the eateries in nearby Chinatown.

    Good luck with your studies!
     
  22. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Nope, I'm a good ol' California resident from NorCal! :D


    UM Kansas City is the school you're talking about? No less than 23 in each DAT section for their admissions criteria?

    My friend from Hawaii got into UMKC with an 18 for QR, 20 for Reading and and 20 AA, less than the 23 benchmark that they have told you.


    Well, I just can't wait to be accepted to a dental program, period.
     
  23. Chuck1441

    Chuck1441 Member
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2006
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Dental Student
    Just in case anyone who actually cares reads this;

    If you are from out of state Iowa will tell you that you need at least a 3.8 GPA or not to bother applying.

    Call them.
     
  24. ChadC

    ChadC Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2005
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Health (Field Undecided)
    Did you forget to tell them you founded the pre-dent group on facebook? That must have been the EC they were craving for.
     
  25. armorshell

    armorshell One Man Freak Show
    Physician Dentist Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    7,172
    Likes Received:
    222
    Status:
    Non-Student
    Hey that was me!

    edit: I've mentioned that group on all of my secondaries :D
     
  26. reapply2007

    reapply2007 Senior Member
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2006
    Messages:
    1,076
    Likes Received:
    5
    Status:
    Dental Student
    I say spend the $60 you would have spent on a secondary on cold adult beverages for you and your friends.
     
  27. ChadC

    ChadC Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2005
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Health (Field Undecided)
    too many "armor..." on this site :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  28. firenoodle

    firenoodle Member
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2005
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    0
    Does it mean all the sits in IOWA are filled already?? my application are still not sent out yet!!!!
     
  29. chordata

    chordata The Last Starfighter
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2005
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    0
    They don't start sending out acceptance letters until 12/1.

    (Last year I didn't get my stuff in until mid-August. I had my interview in October.)
     
  30. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Yes you're darn right Chuck1441.

    I've just spoken to a lady at the admissions office yesterday, and she told me their average GPA is 3.87. She didn't specify whether the stats were from out-of-state applicants or the applicant pool overall for this country-jack school. I'm thinking that a lot of Iowa applicants are in-state and have attended Univ of Iowa where they easily can get A's and B's in their classes. This is why their GPA is boosted, not only to make the admissions process more competitive, but to also show off their stats. But whatevers, as Iowa isn't as good as the other dental schools I'm applying to. :laugh:
     
  31. armorshell

    armorshell One Man Freak Show
    Physician Dentist Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    7,172
    Likes Received:
    222
    Status:
    Non-Student
    lawl, if Iowa is such a terrible school in such a horrible area, why did you even apply? :laugh:

    Maybe just some sour grapes? Take the rejections in stride man, it appears even the best applicants get a few ;)
     
  32. rambo2006

    rambo2006 Be a DDS or die trying
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2005
    Messages:
    427
    Likes Received:
    2
    Status:
    Dental Student

    In answering your question it is important to know that many ppl who apply to schools like columbia and harvard also never forget to apply to schools like howard and meharry and that is because for many (not all) students, getting "in dental school" is much more important then where they get in. Students are willing to leave family behind and mooove to where ever they get accepted so that they can eventually become dentists some day. Even if it takes going to school in a state like iowa. In the state I live in (Minnesota) it gets really cold in the winter and with over 15,000 lakes, it can snow pretty easily. We actually got hail 2 days ago. With ugly weather like that, ppl still apply, interview, and go to school to the U of MN and they come from Cali, AZ, and other states too.

    good luck to all.
     
  33. ArmoredTooth

    ArmoredTooth Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Yes, you're darn right in terms of me applying to schools that fit my interest just to get accepted to a dental program.

    Wow, you're from MN? I'm applying to Minnesota as an out-of-state resident.

    Although MN snows a lot and it's damn cold during the winter, it's a different scenario than iowa. At least MN has the Twin Cities where I can party. I also think a lot of the girls in MN are hot! :love:

    iowa, psssht, whatevers.
     
  34. Mach band

    Mach band It's not caries.
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2006
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Dental Student
    Iowa is a great school. It's nearly imposible for an avergage student from another state (especially from Cal with five d schools) to get accepted. Period.
     
  35. ItsGavinC

    Dentist Moderator Emeritus 15+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2001
    Messages:
    11,750
    Likes Received:
    13
    Status:
    Dentist
    Not to add fuel to your fire, but Iowa is one of the more difficult programs to get into. They offer an exceptional dental education that is very well respected throughout the country (regardless of what you think), but their admissions criteria are very high and strict.


    I would not base anything off the n=1 with a DAT of 18 that you know, but rather look at all the other students with high GPAs (over 3.7) and high DAT scores (over 22) that get accepted there.
     

Share This Page