1) ccf is not case's teaching hospital.
Um, yes it is. University Hospitals is the primary affiliate, and CCF, Metro, and the VA are the other affiliate Case teaching hospitals. Case students from any of the three programs (UP, CCLCM, and MSTP) can rotate through CCF as home students for their third year rotations.
2) even if it were, its prestigous hospital ranking is great for patients, not so much for med students. Cclcm students are lucky bc there aren't many of them, so they actually get to do a decent amount, but generally being at an academic teaching center where you're knee deep in residents, fellows, pas, nps, etc isn't ideal. Yay for shadowing as a med student during clerkships...
No offense, but you're not even a student here, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
dtothey, after second year, UP and CCLCM students are basically following the same curriculum. The main differences are that UP students get graded for rotations while we don't, and we do two extra research blocks beyond what they do (a total of 12 months for us compared to their 4 months). UP students who choose to rotate at CCF do the same exact rotations that we do. How much you get to do is variable depending on what teams you're on and how proactive you are as a student. But it's not true that CCLCM students get to do amazing extra things on rotations that are not available to UP students.
It also wasn't true that students didn't get to do very much on rotations at CCF or that it was like shadowing. I did eight months of rotations there plus one of my AIs, and maybe the only time where I didn't get to do much was inpatient peds and inpatient psych. But that experience isn't unique to CCF. Parents don't always want students to bother their extremely sick kids just for educational reasons, and some psych patients weren't considered safe for students to see alone. Also, sometimes I felt like I had to do too much, like taking Q4 overnight call with the team for the entire time I was on inpatient medicine. Even my intern felt sorry for me since he didn't have to do that while he was in med school.
3) that said,Uh and metro are nice places to learn with a good patient population.
Finally something that I can actually agree with you about, from experience in my case.
dtothey, I agree with the people who said that you should try to attend second looks if you can. Also, I agree with the people who said you should go to one of the places that offered you more scholarship money. Some of my UP friends who are graduating this year are a little
about how much debt they have. You may think right now that it doesn't matter that much, but people tend to change their minds as they get farther along and realize that they dropped enough money on tuition to have bought a house. If you don't have a choice, that's one thing, but you do have a choice, so why spend so much extra money, especially when you don't have a strong preference for one school over another? Just my opinion.
Good luck whatever you decide to do, and don't worry too much. You will get as much out of your education as you put into it no matter which school you pick.