Please read this article if you taking florida hygiene exam

[Lake Tahoe]

Hi All,

please read this article at RDH magazine on page 34 , April 2007 issue or Go to the the web. www.rdhmag.com. The name of article is " Storm clouds over Florida". This article is about foreign trained dentists how they take over RDH jobs in Florida and how horrible is their performance. I was really shock. Please let me know your opinion. LT

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[Lake Tahoe]

http://rdh.pennnet.com/display_article/290366/56/ARTCL/none/none/Storm-clouds-over-Florida/

 

[Y.M]

The article is not fair . I am a FTD and i live here in Florida and i am DA right now i have seen plenty of Hygienist.there is the good ones and the bad ones among both of them . In this article they concentrate only among the bad ones among FTD and make it like every hygienist who graduated from program here is perfect ;which is not true .

I hope that they will not close this door soon or make it hardest .


P.S I know this kind of not related to this issue but i would like to know where can i get access to previous dental hygiene board exams as i couldn't find any?

 

[aphistis]

I completely agree with the article. You can't practice dentistry in America until you've graduated from an accredited DDS/DMD program and passed the necessary board exams, and hygiene should be the same way.

 

[godbless]

I completely agree with the article. You can't practice dentistry in America until you've graduated from an accredited DDS/DMD program and passed the necessary board exams, and hygiene should be the same way.

So, the moderator of this forum thinks that a person who is a licensed dentist in another country, could be a GP, or an oral surgeon/endodontist/orthodontist and might have a good work experience of practicing/teaching/millitary on various levels in their country is not even qualified to practice hygiene in US after passing the necessary board exams.......not even in one state in US?
Was just curious to know if you would ever be comfortable accepting treatment from a foreign dentist who has a DDS also in addition to a dental/specialist training from his own country?

 

[g3k]

I completely agree with the article. You can't practice dentistry in America until you've graduated from an accredited DDS/DMD program and passed the necessary board exams, and hygiene should be the same way.

I think the FTDs do pass the necessary board exams including the clinical section to be registered as a hygienist. I think the examiners know what they are doing while passing the FTD during the clinical section?
Plus FTDS, why are you all so mad? If it means one year of hygiene school, it is not too bad. After all, it is a well known fact that US TRAINED DENTISTS themselves don't know how to clean teeth!!
I teach the first and second year hygiene students in all non-clinical subjects. So all you really have to learn are the clinical parts. Also, I think they learn clinically more than what I learned in dental school in India. So I personally wouldn't attempt to be a hygienist here unless I get educated here. Each system is different in each country. Let's learn it and play by the rules.

 

[nondentist]

I agree with Godbless. I don’t see any problem FTDs practicing dental hygiene as long as they pass the board hygiene exam and legally obtain the hygiene license. So the moderator is questioning either 1) competency of the FTDs or 2) quality of the Florida hygiene board exams.
Dentist may not be as good hygienists in cleaning the teeth, at least in the beginning, but it takes no time in learning that being a dentist. This is one of the very few opportunities exist for FTDs to survive in USA, and you want to take away that too.
According to aphistis, for every profession who get license here in USA or work in USA must go to US school. I am repeating again and again this is not case in every profession. Foreign medical graduates don’t go to medical school. Foreign Software guys don’t go to engineering schools in USA. But still they are doing well. Dentists who obtain license by bench exam or doing masters dont’t go to US school.
If what aphistis says is true, then FTDs should not even be allowed for advanced standing DDS, directly to third year. They may have to take DAT and start from first year or even go back to kindergarten.

 

[g3k]

I agree with Godbless. I don’t see any problem FTDs practicing dental hygiene as long as they pass the board hygiene exam and legally obtain the hygiene license. So the moderator is questioning either 1) competency of the FTDs or 2) quality of the Florida hygiene board exams.
Dentist may not be as good hygienists in cleaning the teeth, at least in the beginning, but it takes no time in learning that being a dentist. This is one of the very few opportunities exist for FTDs to survive in USA, and you want to take away that too. According to aphistis, for every profession who get license here in USA or work in USA must go to US school. I am repeating again and again this is not case in every profession. Foreign medical graduates don’t go to medical school. Foreign Software guys don’t go to engineering schools in USA. But still they are doing well. Dentists who obtain license by bench exam or doing masters dont’t go to US school.
If what aphistis says is true, then FTDs should not even be allowed for advanced standing DDS, directly to third year. They may have to take DAT and start from first year or even go back to kindergarten.

Why do they have to give us opportunities? There is always teaching...

 

[nondentist]

Each system is different in each country.Let's learn it and play by the rules.

I think thast what they are doing. Aren't they? It is the Florida law. They are legally obtaining the license by passing the hygiene board exams.
If you think board exams are not good enough to assess the FTDs, why they have to be there at all? They could just scrap the exams and give license to only who graduated from US schools directly without board exams.
If you think those exams are good enough, no further discussion, case closed.

 

[Y.M]

Plus FTDS, why are you all so mad? If it means one year of hygiene school, it is not too bad.

One Year only ? which program would give you this chance and is it easy to get into it?

 

[Lake Tahoe]

Hi everybody,

Thank you all for your respond on this thread. Today is my special day. I received good news from dental board of California I pass my licensure exam. Finally after so many years of suffering and hard work I can practice dentistry at US. It was not easy ,but I did it. Originally I did not plan to practise dentistry at US, but I married american and I started this long way to get my degree here. I went through a lot. Working as a dental assistant at oral surgery, GP and perio office and now I work as a head of dental hygienists at one beautiful office. I know what hygienists can do and what they are not able to do. I like hygiene work and I admire them and I feel they are a part of dental practice. Hygiene program in america is very good. But please do not take FTD'S down, because they do not know american culture and procedures. Those people are willing to learn a lot and be part of society. Person who wrote this article should think again and not to take only one side of the problem. Thank you everybody for your support and good luck. SDN was good support of my americamn dream. LT

 

[smiling tooth]

Hi everybody,

Thank you all for your respond on this thread. Today is my special day. I received good news from dental board of California I pass my licensure exam. Finally after so many years of suffering and hard work I can practice dentistry at US. It was not easy ,but I did it. Originally I did not plan to practise dentistry at US, but I married american and I started this long way to get my degree here. I went through a lot. Working as a dental assistant at oral surgery, GP and perio office and now I work as a head of dental hygienists at one beautiful office. I know what hygienists can do and what they are not able to do. I like hygiene work and I admire them and I feel they are a part of dental practice. Hygiene program in america is very good. But please do not take FTD'S down, because they do not know american culture and procedures. Those people are willing to learn a lot and be part of society. Person who wrote this article should think again and not to take only one side of the problem. Thank you everybody for your support and good luck. SDN was good support of my americamn dream. LT

Congratulations

 

[meme]

Hi everybody,

Thank you all for your respond on this thread. Today is my special day. I received good news from dental board of California I pass my licensure exam. Finally after so many years of suffering and hard work I can practice dentistry at US. It was not easy ,but I did it. Originally I did not plan to practise dentistry at US, but I married american and I started this long way to get my degree here. I went through a lot. Working as a dental assistant at oral surgery, GP and perio office and now I work as a head of dental hygienists at one beautiful office. I know what hygienists can do and what they are not able to do. I like hygiene work and I admire them and I feel they are a part of dental practice. Hygiene program in america is very good. But please do not take FTD'S down, because they do not know american culture and procedures. Those people are willing to learn a lot and be part of society. Person who wrote this article should think again and not to take only one side of the problem. Thank you everybody for your support and good luck. SDN was good support of my americamn dream. LT

Congrats. About the article - Someone aptly said that if one is questioning the skill of FTD it is tantamount to questioning the Licensure exam which the US schooled hygienist's also take. Wouldn't that mean that all hygienists in the State of Florida are incompetent?
Let's assume that all FTDs are incompetent and somehow pass the standardized licensure exam, who would employ them if they were really incompetent? If for some reason they get a job will they be able to hold on to that that job if they are incompetent?
If the FTDs are incompetent the author should not be worried about FTDs taking away RDH jobs in Florida.
Looks like the author of the article is prejudiced for some reason and needs to address the real issue that is bothering him/her.
Every profession will have good and bad practitioners and only the skilled or someone willing to learn will be successful. The author has statistics about the program director's views on FTDs but no data on their opinion on US trained hygienist which may or may not be similar to their opinion on FTDs. The author should also consider the fact that FTDs who are not confident about their dental hygiene skills apply for these programs and their competency level might be different from those FTDs who directly give the exam and pass.
It is unfortunate that the SDN moderator doesn't have his facts right when he said that only US schooled dentists are allowed to practice in US. The moderator should visit the California State dental board and Minnesota state dental board to get an update on facts.

 

[dentheartthrob]

I completely agree with the article. You can't practice dentistry in America until you've graduated from an accredited DDS/DMD program and passed the necessary board exams, and hygiene should be the same way.

you get dentists who receive malpractice suits who graduated from american dental schools as wells as those who are licensed with out going thru the ISP programs...for moderator, you show some bias at times....

 

[marcce]

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[mauru]

Hi

I'll take the clinical examination for dental hygienist license on Gainesville, Fl this june. I would like to know if is better buy or rent the instruments if is better to rent, do you know where.

I read somebody took a pre-exam a saturday before the test and this really helped her, so you know who give this courses?

Thanks for your time

 

[dentalbug]

Hi <
I am also taknig exam in June. Did you select any pt? Are you confident? I am going to borrow instuments from one dentist. I am more concern about the pt and whether or not they allow to bring cavitron. I am good at cleaning. But i dont know they would accept my selected patients or not? please reply.

 

[Y.M]

Has anyone took NBDHE before ? i have been looking for released exams but i couldn't find any ?

Thank you

 

[mauru]

I got some of the test when I made my aplication to the board. You can buy them, I already gave away mines. I'm not sure how much they are, but I think is $ 15.oo.

 

[mauru]

Hi
I found a PDF file in their web page wich you can download from there. Somewhere it says:

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  [*]Both hand and ultrasonic instruments are permitted for this procedure. Slow speed rotary instruments may be used to polish the teeth surfaces.

By the way, are you in Florida? did you hear anything about you can get some pre-examination made by experienced hygienist?

 

[Y.M]

I got some of the test when I made my aplication to the board. You can buy them, I already gave away mines. I'm not sure how much they are, but I think is $ 15.oo.

Thank you for your reply...as far as you took the NBDHE before do you have like any advices that could help as i haven't met anyone who took this exam before .

Thanks

 

[okik]

im taking the hygiene clinical in june also, where did you examen ur pacient and where can u get the instruments...please answer ASAP

 

[loraineskibob]

hi, my sched for clinical is june2'07..did you already took the law and ethic exam?

 

[mauru]

Hi

Mi schedule for clinical ex is June 3/07 and I don't have the patient yet, neither the laws and rule test, I'll take it on may 19,

For the people who never has taken the NBDHE I'll recomend the Mosby's book, is where I studied from, and is big but very complete and it has good questionaires at the end of the chapters, besides it comes with a cd wich bring a lot of question and you can interact with it on your computer, when you get tired of read, rest a bit and then try the cd, it helps much.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any other question.

Please don't forget you have to schedule your laws and rules test before the clinical examination. Bye Bye

 

[Y.M]

Hello
Thanks Murua for your reply

Actually i Just have bought Kaplan"National Dental Hygienist Licensure Exam"
I don't feel very comfortable studying form it (some mistakes and bad presentatoin) but i think i am gonna go on and study from it as it's only 2 months till the exam i don't think i have the time for Mosby.

P.S
My room mate is Hygienist he took this exam like 1 and half years ago in his exam his patient didn't get approved but he found another patient as most people go there with 2 patients to be sure that one of them gonna be accepted at least .

let me know if you want anything i can ask him for you (by the way he bought his own instruments for the exam)

 

[marusa]

Hi, I am foreign graduated dentist, who lives here for four years, works as RDA in dental office etc. I wrote the letter in response to this article, and I think everybody has to say their opinion. Article was very discriminative and full of hate to "FTD's". Just to be able to go for Florida clinical dental hygiene exam "FTD's" have to pass both of the boards, to prove their credentials and only after it, show their clinical skills. Autor was very concern about jobs taken by "that foreigners". I believe a good professional has to be sure in his/her possibilities.

 

[shakira]

hi am foriegn t dentist to and taking up the june 07 dH board in florida.did u guys get the patient . am alittle apprehensive.any in puts from those who already took it..?how easy was it..or how difficult was it..
thanks

 

[nejnej]

If you get a dental hygiene license in Florida and you became a hygienist and you thought of practicing to othere states in US after some time, will you be able to get reciprocity from other states? or like in california?

Any experience of friends who are hygienist in florida and got a reciprocity here in california???Ty!

 

[mauru]

Hi
I tought that Having a Florida license was the only state for working, I'm living in south Carolina and I read on their statutes that you can get a license from here if you have been working as a hygienist for 5 years, or if you graduated in the last two years you can applied with them, but this is not my case because I'm from Colombia and let me tell you., if I have to move to Florida for 5 years I won't come back to South Carolina after 5 years.

I think you should go to the Dental Hygiene Board in the state you want to be and read their statutes and you will have you question answer. Good lock.

 

[cutedockle]

hi am foriegn t dentist to and taking up the june 07 dH board in florida.did u guys get the patient . am alittle apprehensive.any in puts from those who already took it..?how easy was it..or how difficult was it..
thanks

hi shakira, so how was ur exam? i shall be giving in october, plz guide me if we need any special documents as a foreighn dentist? was it easy? where did u find the patient? plz reply , if u dnt mind plz give me ur e mail id, i stay in florida.

 

[cutedockle]

Hello
Thanks Murua for your reply

Actually i Just have bought Kaplan"National Dental Hygienist Licensure Exam"
I don't feel very comfortable studying form it (some mistakes and bad presentatoin) but i think i am gonna go on and study from it as it's only 2 months till the exam i don't think i have the time for Mosby.

P.S
My room mate is Hygienist he took this exam like 1 and half years ago in his exam his patient didn't get approved but he found another patient as most people go there with 2 patients to be sure that one of them gonna be accepted at least .

let me know if you want anything i can ask him for you (by the way he bought his own instruments for the exam)

hi , i would appreciate if u could tell me that ftd can still apply for the clinicals in october 2007?

 

[cutedockle]

im taking the hygiene clinical in june also, where did you examen ur pacient and where can u get the instruments...please answer ASAP

hi i hope u have taken the hygiene exam by now plz would u help me with the patient criterias? is it very difficult. do we require a lot of time for scaling? where did u find the patient? i am really worried.. help me

 

[cutedockle]

Hi

Mi schedule for clinical ex is June 3/07 and I don't have the patient yet, neither the laws and rule test, I'll take it on may 19,

For the people who never has taken the NBDHE I'll recomend the Mosby's book, is where I studied from, and is big but very complete and it has good questionaires at the end of the chapters, besides it comes with a cd wich bring a lot of question and you can interact with it on your computer, when you get tired of read, rest a bit and then try the cd, it helps much.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any other question.

Please don't forget you have to schedule your laws and rules test before the clinical examination. Bye Bye

hi plz guide me for the clinical hygiene exam. can we use ultraqsonics?

 

[mauru]

hi plz guide me for the clinical hygiene exam. can we use ultraqsonics?

Yes you can use ultrasonic, I took mine in Gainsville, fl. There the ultrasonic is in the equipment itself, so you just need one adpter and the end, I took an ultrasonic and I could not use it, anyway, I didn't get the adaptor neither, so I just have to do everything with scalers.

The only think I can tell you about the exam is, just relax, if you know how to scaling, you'll be fine.
You have two hours and it is not difficult, it is just stressing, but people there are nice.

 

[cutedockle]

Yes you can use ultrasonic, I took mine in Gainsville, fl. There the ultrasonic is in the equipment itself, so you just need one adpter and the end, I took an ultrasonic and I could not use it, anyway, I didn't get the adaptor neither, so I just have to do everything with scalers.

The only think I can tell you about the exam is, just relax, if you know how to scaling, you'll be fine.
You have two hours and it is not difficult, it is just stressing, but people there are nice.

hi mauru, thanks that was a big relief.
i am sure i know scaling, its that i have lost touch with it, as i am a foreingher.. specially root planning.. i havent done it in yrs, will try my best to practice thou. .
thanks again.
how long does it take to prepare for the laws and rule exam?

 

[dentalbug]

I finished exam in june. And it was just a piece of cake. you just relax. The law exam is the easiest exam i have ever taken. SO to pass this exam is not that difficult. You just need to worry aobut the right pt. Even for the pt criteria they are very easygoing by my experience.
If anybody wants know anything : [email protected]

 

[mauru]

What I can see is that you don't have yet the booklet for the laws and rules test, in this order you don't even know what you're going to do.
First get the booklet, then take a look on it and if you study for 2 days, you can pass, but you got to study, if not you won't pass.

I know there is a summary about this issue, try to get it and it will be easier. Good look

 

[cutedockle]

What I can see is that you don't have yet the booklet for the laws and rules test, in this order you don't even know what you're going to do.
First get the booklet, then take a look on it and if you study for 2 days, you can pass, but you got to study, if not you won't pass.

I know there is a summary about this issue, try to get it and it will be easier. Good look

hi mauru,
thanks. its sounds good if i can do it in 2 days...
but i am still waiting for the booklet for laws and rules. can we any ways find it online ? i have applied and they still dint send me the booklet....