POLL: cosmetology school or HVAC voc training for premed?

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cosmetology school or HVAC voc training for premed?

  • go to the chic school of cosmetology. learn how to do perma-makeup!

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • HVAC is where it's at. everyone knows the TRANE guy gets the chicks! ventilation is cool!

    Votes: 11 28.2%
  • go to whichever school has better facilities and premed advisors

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • what is HVAC?

    Votes: 19 48.7%

  • Total voters
    39

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help me, i can't decide. anyone done one of these two things? any aestheticians out there with insight? how about HVAC? i've always thought ventilation systems were cool and man, those TRANE guys rock, but are there any HVAC students right now with tips about premed programs offered at the voc-tec institutions? which will help me secure a better residency and are better looked up by adcoms? ? ?
 
You'll want to find a cosmetology school with a strong nail art program...you really won't get anywhere without volunteer experience in airbrushing and nail piercing. There are a lot of applicants coming in in the next cycle with extensive permanent makeup experience, so to really shine for the adcoms, you'll need to learn tattooed eyebrows AND blush.

Check out PIMA medical institute's program. It's really competitive, but you can also become a paralegal, TV repairman, hotel manager, or get your highschool diploma.

And don't make the same mistake I did: hunter green is NOT an appropriate airbrushed acrylic nail color for interviews.
 
The Affirmative Action thread is thattaway, Good Monkey :laugh:
 
HVAC is where it's at, but only if you're gonna limit yourself to those two. GM, you should seriously consider paralegal correspondence school or cooking school. If you really want to go for the gusto, though, you need to head to McDonald's and get yourself a spot at Hamburger University. I know, they're highly competitive -- you may even feel inadequate, unqualified, or even undeserving, but if you don't reach for the stars, you'll never get anywhere.
 
Make sure that your HVAC program of choice has excellent premed advising. Look for a program that will give you a strong grounding in the HVAC principles while preparing you for your future healthcare career.

You will definitely want heavy exposure the the field of refrigeration....but make sure that your knowledge in the field of heating isn't compromised.

Also be certain that you get into a competitive vocational school. High school students--make sure you keep that GPA over the 2.2 mark....it will be worth it in the end. If you are shooting for a community college program...you're gonna want to kick ass on that 40 minute entrance exam.

Stick to the program...get the certification...and just think...if the A/C ever goes out in the hospital during residency..you'll be able to take matters into your own hands.
 
got any pad thai? :idea:
 
Originally posted by dtreese
HVAC is where it's at, but only if you're gonna limit yourself to those two. GM, you should seriously consider paralegal correspondence school or cooking school. If you really want to go for the gusto, though, you need to head to McDonald's and get yourself a spot at Hamburger University. I know, they're highly competitive -- you may even feel inadequate, unqualified, or even undeserving, but if you don't reach for the stars, you'll never get anywhere.

thanks, dtreese... i'll look into paralegal correspondence school. however, i'm already a Subway Sandwich Artist (tm), so Mickey D's Univ or Univ of BK don't appeal to me as much.
 
so nobody votes for cosmetology school as a good premed curriculum option? what about full-on aesthetician stuff? i mean, learning that brazilian wax will surely help me in terms of 1) anatomy and 2) making patients feel comfortable during not-so-lovely proceedures/tests/etc.

exene: thanks for the heads up on the nail art. i've already started shadowing some people at the permanent make up place by the mall, but i didn't even think about nail art. do you think i could do some volunteer work for this experience? will it look good on my application? i don't like it or anything, i just want to make sure the experience looks good to adcoms. you know, better than working the clinique counter or anything.
 
I just have one question:

Do I have a shot????
 
Originally posted by dtreese
I just have one question:

Do I have a shot????

What r ur stat'z and EC'z??
 
HVAC is cool. Definitely go HVAC 😉
 
You really need to look at the LOR front. You want your letters of recommendation to smell like hand creme and cuticle oil, not axle grease and engine lubricant. First impressions matter.
 
I would like to be the kind of physician that respects people regardless of the prestige of the career. I'd like to believe that the hairdresser, the HVAC technician, the paralegal, and the manager from McDonald's are all worthy of my respect and servitude. They do a needed job. I never aspired to become a physcian who treats only those of my own social status. In fact, I reject the whole notion of social status, whether based on wealth of currency or (supposed) wealth of intellect.

Why?

Because I have an active imagination. I imagine the single mother who is raising two children on a hairdresser's wage and is determined to see them succeed. I imagine another family, with children who idolize and adore thier father, who happens to fix air conditioners for a living. I imagine an ex-con, who graduates from a vocational school and takes the first steps to a new life. I imagine a kid who goes to a community college because he needs to work to support his family.

When I imagine scenarios like this, it saddens me to think that these fine hardworking individuals (who exist in every town and city) might have to see a physician who feels they are fit fodder for idiotic jokes.

I've always wanted to be a blue-collar kind of doctor. It just suits me better.
 
Originally posted by MaggieD
I would like to be the kind of physician that respects people regardless of the prestige of the career. I'd like to believe that the hairdresser, the HVAC technician, the paralegal, and the manager from McDonald's are all worthy of my respect and servitude. They do a needed job. I never aspired to become a physcian who treats only those of my own social status. In fact, I reject the whole notion of social status, whether based on wealth of currency or (supposed) wealth of intellect.

Why?

Because I have an active imagination. I imagine the single mother who is raising two children on a hairdresser's wage and is determined to see them succeed. I imagine another family, with children who idolize and adore thier father, who happens to fix air conditioners for a living. I imagine an ex-con, who graduates from a vocational school and takes the first steps to a new life. I imagine a kid who goes to a community college because he needs to work to support his family.

When I imagine scenarios like this, it saddens me to think that these fine hardworking individuals (who exist in every town and city) might have to see a physician who feels they are fit fodder for idiotic jokes.

I've always wanted to be a blue-collar kind of doctor. It just suits me better.

I might have made a joke about it...but I feel the same way as you. There is nothing wrong with people who pursue careers in stuff like cosmetology or HVAC. Everyone has their interests...and I'm cool with that. The truth is that what they do is very important. Without blue collar labor we wouldn't be able to function as a society. Next time your car breaks down, try fixing it yourself....or next time you don't have heat in your home on a freezing cold night, try fixing it yourself. Just because someone may make a joke about another person doesn't necessarily mean that they have less respect for them. I'm sure that people with those types of jobs poke fun at doctors, lawyers, politicians, and other white collar workers all the time.

On a more personal level, I spent my first semester of college in a community college taking classes such as English Comp and General Psych with people training for a vocation. I found many of them to be very intelligent individuals who were training in the field either due to an interest, to be able to join a large family business, or to get into a decent career in order to support their family. I ate lunch with and went out to parties with them all the time and they were pretty cool. I have nothing against HVAC technicians, auto repair technicians, construction workers, and people who are in similar careers. What they do is crucial for society to function. I have the same amount of respect for a HVAC technician as I would for a physician or a lawyer(well, maybe a little more respect than for a lawyer:laugh: ).
 
the coolest thing i ever have seen dp post.
 
ok.
first off...
i am not digging on those careers. i'm annoyed at all the high schoolers posting about their identical college choices that have no bearing on their future careers and whether or not they'll get into med school. they're 17 and need to chill out. maybe i will spell it out: i am not saying these careers are bad. i'm saying that choosing b/w cosmetology school and HVAC for premed is as asinine a question as "should i go to eastern michigan or western michigan for premed? which is a stronger program? i'm 17, btw!"

second...
before you go judging my capacities as a humanistic physician and before you go assuming i will "treat only those patients of my social status" you need to get a grip on your assumptions.
i have cleaned toilets in a factory before.
i have worked at mcdonalds.
i have waited tables at big boy.
i work in a clinic for people who have NO health insurance and who often have no place to live.
i have painted houses and walls and concrete floors.
i have held so many jobs that i respect anyone who gets up and works in the morning. (or at night - i've done the swing shift.)
i worked not one, but two jobs throughout college (one of them blue-collar) to put myself through school. and i'm only 25. some days it feels as though i have clawed my way here.

i should have figured some dry humor would be lost on pre-allo. dumbest premed made a good point: just because one makes fun of someone does not mean that person has no respect for the other person. i pick on my dad all the time. he's an accountant. would you rather i poke fun at physicians? i can do that just as well. for those of you who think that i'm expressing some superiority issue here or that i'm looking down on other careers - start by breathing. chill out. i'm not. you don't wanna pop a blood vessel like those 17 year olds who can't figure out if they wanna go UC irvine or UC davis for premed or if harvard or yale will provide a better route to guaranteed med school. breathe people, breathe.

yeah, i'm lacking an active imagination. i look down on the rest of the world. i will be a wretched physician. 🙄 get your underwear out of a knot.
 
Originally posted by GoodMonkey
ok.
first off...
i am not digging on those careers. i'm annoyed at all the high schoolers posting about their identical college choices that have no bearing on their future careers and whether or not they'll get into med school. they're 17 and need to chill out. maybe i will spell it out: i am not saying these careers are bad. i'm saying that choosing b/w cosmetology school and HVAC for premed is as asinine a question as "should i go to eastern michigan or western michigan for premed? which is a stronger program? i'm 17, btw!"

second...
before you go judging my capacities as a humanistic physician and before you go assuming i will "treat only those patients of my social status" you need to get a grip on your assumptions.
i have cleaned toilets in a factory before.
i have worked at mcdonalds.
i have waited tables at big boy.
i work in a clinic for people who have NO health insurance and who often have no place to live.
i have painted houses and walls and concrete floors.
i have held so many jobs that i respect anyone who gets up and works in the morning. (or at night - i've done the swing shift.)
i worked not one, but two jobs throughout college (one of them blue-collar) to put myself through school. and i'm only 25. some days it feels as though i have clawed my way here.

i should have figured some dry humor would be lost on pre-allo. would you rather i poke fun at physicians? i can do that just as well. for those of you who think that i'm expressing some superiority issue here or that i'm looking down on other careers - start by breathing. chill out. i'm not. you don't wanna pop a blood vessel like those 17 year olds who can't figure out if they wanna go UC irvine or UC davis for premed or if harvard or yale will provide a better route to guaranteed med school. breathe people, breathe.

yeah, i'm lacking an active imagination. i look down on the rest of the world. i will be a wretched physician. 🙄 get your underwear out of a knot. and have a lovely day. 🙂

What an amazing way to start your day! Hope you have a good one.
 
for the record, anyone considering uc irvine solely because of fear of the competition of uc berkeley deserves to be at uc irvine. thanks.
 
Yay GoodMonkey! We need a laugh.

Pre-allo denziens, you need to lighten up and not take yourselves so seriously. I realize that applying to med school is a big, huge, stressful deal (trust me...i'm still waiting to hear from schools!), BUT you're not doing yourself or anyone else any favors by losing your sense of humor. Face it... all this stress over choice of interview suit color, skirtsuit vs. pantsuit, and whether or not to attend UNC over NCSU is just silly, and if you weren't in the situation you'd probably be laughing, too. This process turns ordinary folks into bitter, humorless people with ulcers at the age of 20. Lighten up and laugh at yourselves. GoodMonkey was in no way criticizing blue-collar workers...she was trying to get you to laugh at yourselves. As a former blue-collar worker (had 3 jobs at one time to get through college-- including yard work and housecleaning) I didn't find anything offensive about this thread. You have to learn to laugh at yourself. You'll be a better person for it.

And on that note, I have to say that cosmetology school is going to be a better route for pre-meds. Think of all the experience you'll be able to pull from when you get that plastic surgery or dermatology residency!! 😉
 
oh -- for the overwhelming majority of folks who responded to the poll: HVAC = heating, ventilation and air conditioning. 🙂

sweet tea: i hear that NCSU has better bio lab facilities than UNC and thus would be a clearly superior choice for premed.
 
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! I've already graduated from UNC!!!!! My chances of ever getting into medical school are RUINED!!! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO I NEED ADVICE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!

good thing i've been accepted to that grad program at ncsu, eh? 😉 maybe they'll forgive my past tar heel transgressions...
 
Must....escape....now....before....humor....is....sucked....right....out....of...me

For the love of (God, the Game, whatever you prefer) LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE. G$....come back to the lounge! 😀
 
I've flipped burgers, worked in factories and retail stores, done extensive automobile repair & maintenance, and performed HVAC repairs (some helping my dad in the days when you could buy freon off the shelf), among various other home repair & maintenance jobs. I had one job unloading trucks full of tires in 100 degree/95% humidity weather. I can fix a broken lawn mower, rewire a light switch, build a computer, cook a gourmet dinner, and sew. The only question is what I would do with the rest of my day. I'm not going to keep listing all the "blue collar" things I've done (that's a stupid distinction in my opinion, anyway), and you don't need to keep reading them. I know what hard work is, and I have nothing against people who do it. I am one of those people. Quite frankly, I think of my current job as something I'm getting away with.

If you find the jokes in this thread offensive, you need to relax and understand that you misconstrued the intent behind the jokes. Wherever you go to school, you're going to get the education you give yourself. 95% (and that's being very generous) of the professors out there are too concerned with their own research to give a rat's a$$ whether or not you learn the material in undergrad. Many of them consider lectures a necessary evil to be able to fund their research. The duty to learn is yours, and the information is the same no matter where you go. Med school admissions committees know a hawk from a handsaw no matter what your alma mater so don't fret so much over status.
Like GM, it was never anyone's intent to crack on other careers. The point was to pick careers with little or no relation to med school prereqs to exaggerate the situation and thus amplify the humor. It's called hyperbole. That's all it was -- don't try to pull this "I shudder to think what kind of doctor you'll make" crap, it's a really weak argument and premeds should be able to do better -- GoodMonkey has the type of personality that will only help her to be a better physician. You folks need to relax and enjoy life or you'll burn out halfway through undergrad like I did.
 
Originally posted by MaggieD
I would like to be the kind of physician that respects people regardless of the prestige of the career. I'd like to believe that the hairdresser, the HVAC technician, the paralegal, and the manager from McDonald's are all worthy of my respect and servitude. They do a needed job. I never aspired to become a physcian who treats only those of my own social status. In fact, I reject the whole notion of social status, whether based on wealth of currency or (supposed) wealth of intellect.

When I imagine scenarios like this, it saddens me to think that these fine hardworking individuals (who exist in every town and city) might have to see a physician who feels they are fit fodder for idiotic jokes.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Congrats! That post was unenlightened enough to merit the rare Ultimate Troll Smiley! 😀 You should feel very proud, this smiley is usually reserved for true quality trolls who (for whatever *****ic reason) chose to flame some of the best loved and most respected SDNers out there (in this case G$, who will make a great physician), normally without any prior knowledge of that person's character or motivations. So here ya go!

drum roll please...

twak.gif
 
You guys are asses. Some people dont have the opportunities we have, or they dont think they do..
 
*bangs head against wall in frustration*

agent, you're missing the point. NO ONE IN THIS THREAD HAS ANY DESIRE TO MAKE FUN OF HVAC TECHS OR COSMETOLOGISTS!!!! G$ might as well have said "which is going to be a better premed track: a phd in chinese literature or becoming a classical pianist?" please locate your sense of humor and try again. The only people being made fun of in this thread are super-anal premeds.
 
ok - good monkey, you can be my doctor when i grow up. if you do peds, my kids' docotr, if you do geriatrics - my parents, is none of the above, hey - maybe you can paint my house.

sweetie tea - i love that ya threw ourself in there to stick up for your friend.

this thread was not meant to poke fun at anyone - and even I on high grouch-o status as of late can see that. you other person that flamed, pick up your $hit and go home. or post constructively - relating your misgivings in reasonable rational way.

AND AGAIN I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE GET ON THAT HIGH MORAL HORSE AND SAY THAT SOMEONE WHO THINKS IN A CERTAIN MANNER WILL BEA BAD DOCTOR. quit it already.
 
Originally posted by jmwalker
ok - good monkey, you can be my doctor when i grow up. if you do peds, my kids' docotr, if you do geriatrics - my parents, is none of the above, hey - maybe you can paint my house.

jmwalker - i'll paint your house. :laugh: but only if you bring your promiscuis friends. 😉 :laugh:
 
oh or did anyone else laugh at how many people didnt know what hvac was?

dude - i grew up on a sheep, cattle and horse farm. with assorted pigs and chickens and stuff.
 
goodmonkey - i thought you were a girl! sure, i will there are lots of them promiscuis chicks here in embarresedville, but we tend to stay up late, and that may be past your bedtime 😉 😀

sweet tea - want to come to a painting party?
 
Originally posted by Sweet Tea
(goodmonkey is a girl! 😉)

BRING ON THE PAINTING PARTY!! but does that mean i get to be promiscuis? that's embarresing.

:laugh:
yeah i'm a girl. hope that isn't a problem. i just dig promiscuis chicks, but i'm embarresed to admit that i do go to bed early. :laugh: 😉 and my dad is an accountant. i could make fun of CPAs or something. 😛
 
Originally posted by DW
there should be a "can you understand humor" check box on AMCAS somewhere......

i hate to think of the questions that would pop up on SDN with that check box..."What if you don't think sarcasm is funny? What if you only like physical comedy in the movies, but not in real life? What if no one understands your jokes? What if your mom has a sense of humor, but your dad doesn't...are you still considered to have a sense of humor?"

must...learn...to...control...sarcasm...
 
Originally posted by Sweet Tea
*bangs head against wall in frustration*

agent, you're missing the point. NO ONE IN THIS THREAD HAS ANY DESIRE TO MAKE FUN OF HVAC TECHS OR COSMETOLOGISTS!!!! G$ might as well have said "which is going to be a better premed track: a phd in chinese literature or becoming a classical pianist?" please locate your sense of humor and try again. The only people being made fun of in this thread are super-anal premeds.

My bad. Now I feel like the ass.

G$ has a point. Those ppl who just come here for one post about what their chances are or where they should go are aggravating.
 
Originally posted by agent
My bad. Now I feel like the ass.


no need. i feel bad if i offended people, as it wasn't the intent. this place takes itself soooo seriously at times, i can't help but try to add some levity. often, i am not too successful. :laugh: anyway, you can join our party painting jmwalker's house if you'd like. 🙂
 
Ya gotta love the type who take offense to these type of threads. The same ones who will shout out...."No! Don't step on that flower you murderer!"...and will then walk around on a pedestal all day feeling like they did something to change the world:laugh: .
 
now don't throw anything at me for saying this, but i agree that this thread is inappropriate. while it may be humorous and with no ill intent, it is not responsible. you take it for granted that everyone "gets" your humor. for those that do not, this thread could be devastating. so please, it is not a matter of good or bad intent. you have to realize that this is a public board.

Ps dumbest premed - you didn't make your point very well by insulting people with a little more sensitivity than you.
 
There are some dense folks on this forum. 🙄
 
Dense is being unaware of the way words and actions may effect others.
 
Dense: Slow to apprehend; thickheaded (ie. misunderstanding one's intent and furthermore, failing to understand even after detailed clarification).

🙄
 
dense ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dns)
adj. dens?er, dens?est

1.
a. Having relatively high density.
b. Crowded closely together; compact: a dense population.
2. Hard to penetrate; thick: a dense jungle.

3.
a. Permitting little light to pass through, because of compactness of matter: dense glass; a dense fog.
b.Opaque, with good contrast between light and dark areas. Used of a photographic negative.

4. Difficult to understand because of complexity or obscurity: a dense novel.

5. Slow to apprehend; thickheaded.
 
You know this whole PC culture thing is highly irritating. You've got to go through life constantly worrying about whether you might hurt someone's feelings, and you know what? You're probably going to hurt someone's feelings anyway. That's life. Grow some skin and learn to deal. There's war, hunger and and buttload of more important things to worry about other than whether this particular thread *might* be offending some group who will never even read it, let alone give a damn. Stop playing the self righteous 'I'm sticking up for the little guy' and worry about the job at hand.
 
Originally posted by jekel
now don't throw anything at me for saying this, but i agree that this thread is inappropriate.

Is it OK if I hit you on the head with a stick instead?
twak.gif


(In case anyone can't tell, that was a joke. 😉 )

Originally posted by jekel
while it may be humorous and with no ill intent, it is not responsible. you take it for granted that everyone "gets" your humor. for those that do not, this thread could be devastating. so please, it is not a matter of good or bad intent. you have to realize that this is a public board.

See, here's the thing. (Manifesto alert!)

For those of us who have been around SDN for awhile, we've gotten to know each other pretty well, and have a general idea of where everyone is coming from. For example, most people know that G$ isn't an elitest, I don't think there's anything funny about dead babies, DW doesn't look down upon DO's, etc. 😡

I know some of you guys are new here, and we always love to see new faces (or screen names, I guess 😉 ) on the pages. So there's probably no way you'd know what everyone's sense of humor is like, since so much is lost in a text-based form of communication. But you're never going to learn unless you take the time to get to know some of the SDN veterans, and don't jump to conclusions about something you know very little about.

I think one reason we've been having this problem is that when we (I'm talking, for the sake of argument, SDN Mafia peeps here 😀 ) were new, we took things posted with a grain of salt. If a post appeared to be sarcastic, we asked for clairification before going on a rant about how the poster was a terrible person. Or we understood that not everyone shares the exact same sense of humor, and would let some stuff go without getting personally offended. For some reason I can't understand, some of the newer posters aren't willing to take this step back before flaming others.

In the words of some wise (probably famous) person whose name I can't remember right now:

"Can't we all just get along?" 🙂
 
:clap::clap: Thundr, DW, Stitch, and Woots :clap::clap:

I applaud your efforts to restore some humor and light-heartedness back to the forum. I think they may be in vain, but they are well worth the effort. Laugh, people. You'll feel better, and I'll feel better b/c I'll lose this compusion to keep banging my head against the nearest wall...
 
Disclaimer: This pst was writtne under the influence of scoth...its the only way I can get myself to post on SND anymore.

It's responses to threads like these that make me want to post less and less on SDN each day. Dammit, i hope to God when I get to medical school I don't have to deal with a bunch of hypersensitive tight-asses every single day who don't understand humor or sarcasm.

*takes a big sip from his scotch*

In the past few months, I have noticed a disturbing trend in pre-allo. There is rarely a thread that goes by that doesn't offend someone in some way. Perhaps its b/c people feel medicine is somehow "special" in the pantheon of professions and therefore aspiring physicians should not laugh, use sarcasm, or use 4-letter words that rhyme with truck and sit. If the people in med school are anything like certain individuals on this thread I will make it a point to have as many friends as possible outside of med school. To put it mildly, I would sooner shovel **** for a living than have to live my life in a profession surrounded by a bunch of humorless curmudgeons.

Therfore, to those humorless heathens, kindly seek out a rectopolectomy as your first real clinical procedure learning experience in medical school. Or in other words, kindly remove the pole from your collective a$$e$ because apparently it's crammed so far up there it's interfering with your "funny bone." Thank you.

*Downs the scotch, pours another.*

BOOOOOOM!!!!

Sincerely,

Explosivo,
SDN Mafia Consiglieri At-Large
 
DonMonkey weighing in.
just wanting to say i love my mafia.
😍

i also want to say that Random Access made a good point in some other thread that addressed this issue with a little more patience than my apparently unable-to-be-detected sarcasm.... we "regulars" get annoyed with the people who come blazing in, with one post, looking for free advice about the same topic over and over and over and over, without any prior contributions to the community, and then get pissy when their requests aren't leapt upon with overflowing, effervescent advice and warm welcome.

next time i'll title my poll : which is better, the Peabody Conservatory or Julliard for premed? then you can rip on me for hating on and looking down on musicians. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by Explosivo
Disclaimer: This pst was writtne under the influence of scoth...its the only way I can get myself to post on SND anymore.

It's responses to threads like these that make me want to post less and less on SDN each day. Dammit, i hope to God when I get to medical school I don't have to deal with a bunch of hypersensitive tight-asses every single day who don't understand humor or sarcasm.

*takes a big sip from his scotch*

In the past few months, I have noticed a disturbing trend in pre-allo. There is rarely a thread that goes by that doesn't offend someone in some way. Perhaps its b/c people feel medicine is somehow "special" in the pantheon of professions and therefore aspiring physicians should not laugh, use sarcasm, or use 4-letter words that rhyme with truck and sit. If the people in med school are anything like certain individuals on this thread I will make it a point to have as many friends as possible outside of med school. To put it mildly, I would sooner shovel **** for a living than have to live my life in a profession surrounded by a bunch of humorless curmudgeons.

Therfore, to those humorless heathens, kindly seek out a rectopolectomy as your first real clinical procedure learning experience in medical school. Or in other words, kindly remove the pole from your collective a$$e$ because apparently it's crammed so far up there it's interfering with your "funny bone." Thank you.

*Downs the scotch, pours another.*

BOOOOOOM!!!!

Sincerely,

Explosivo,
SDN Mafia Consiglieri At-Large

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!
i'd go to med school w/you anyday explosivo, if you'd have me! :laugh:
 
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