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No, I disagree. She probably hasn't cheated before. However, clearly her mindset is flawed if she wants an A+ over and A. That is close to disturbing. To cheat for that is even more disturbing.
If I were the professor, I would prolly keep it under wraps, but definitely let her know that I knew. That way, it saves her the embarrasment, but at the same time, I'm willing to bet she never does it again.
No, I disagree. She probably hasn't cheated before. However, clearly her mindset is flawed if she wants an A+ over and A. That is close to disturbing. To cheat for that is even more disturbing.
If I were the professor, I would prolly keep it under wraps, but definitely let her know that I knew. That way, it saves her the embarrasment, but at the same time, I'm willing to bet she never does it again.
Heres a post of the from 2006 from the "same" person....looks like 2 years has passed and he/she still hasnt got into med. school...dang that sucks
I guess moral of the story....once a cheater, always a cheater!
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=271360
I would do the same thing, Had I been the prof. I mean, she might not be able to get in med school forever, but that does not sound fair. I mean everyone makes mistakes. The price should not be this big.
Fair? I think you should read any academic honesty policy! He is abiding by the rules. Granted it's a minor altercation to her grade, she should have reread the academic hoensty rules!
A cheater will never have close to her GPA of 3.9X
If she cheated her way to a 3.9+ there would be a good chance of her getting caught in her 2+ years of school.I disagree
I don't see anything connecting one to the other.Heres a post of the from 2006 from the "same" person....looks like 2 years has passed and he/she still hasnt got into med. school...dang that sucks
I guess moral of the story....once a cheater, always a cheater!
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=271360
Well, when George Bush does not give a damn about the constitution, then I'm sure an academic professor can make exceptions in such a case. She is still to be blamed, but all I meant is that the punishment is very big compared to what she did [considering the fact that she has a 3.93 which means she is a hard-working student]. She might never be able to get into med school because of the report on her transcripts.
If she cheated her way to a 3.9+ there would be a good chance of her getting caught in her 2+ years of school.
Big Brother is.nobody is watching you every second.
A chance yes, a good chance ehhh I dont know about that. I think it would be very easy to cheat through a ton of classes. I have not done any of it but I certainly have had ideas where it would be extremely easy. Of course it depends on the class but there are many many easy ways to cheat. It is an honor system and I think it is easy to cheat nobody is watching you every second.
Come on Andrew, tell us some of your techniques. Lol.
wow, it takes true genius to use A) George Bush or B) Hitler in an internet conversation.
As for the cheater,
she should not be allowed to enter health care. Someone fudging 2 points to PASS a class I could understand (not condone, but understand).
Someone who would cheat for 2 points for a A to A+, must be so egotistical they should not be allowed to treat patients.
If your whole life you are an A student only to find out that an A+ exists in college, wouldn't you find yourself bored with A's and striving for A+? YES it is extreme..but aren't we always striving for more? The difference between cheating 2 pts to pass or fail in a course is a bigger problem in my view. The difference between an A and an A+ (although a little obsessive compulsive) is not as big of an injustice. I still think she should fail the course and have a little to no shot at med school.
spoken like a predent.
Gunner perhaps.If your whole life you are an A student only to find out that an A+ exists in college, wouldn't you find yourself bored with A's and striving for A+? YES it is extreme..but aren't we always striving for more? The difference between cheating 2 pts to pass or fail in a course is a bigger problem in my view. The difference between an A and an A+ (although a little obsessive compulsive) is not as big of an injustice. I still think she should fail the course and have a little to no shot at med school.
I love examples like this. Keep them coming..I will turn anyone in that I see cheating like that. I must be a true gunner!
ohh UNMorBUST scroll up a bit..^^ I already admitted to being a gunner. I'm trying to calm it down lately though. You know..think about the consequences before pullin the trigger.
most dental school classes are around 50 students. It will be a LONG LONG 4 years if you piss off your class with an uber gunner attitude.
I'm really not that bad. I do try really hard. But I don't openly share my grades unless I am asked. I am way more open about sharing my grades online because it's anonymous. Also, I am a very social person and never had a hard time getting along with people all the way for Kindy to now. I don't think I'll have a problem. Especially since there will be a lot of smart people in dental school (if I get in) and I will likely not feel like the classes are easy. I am a little bit of a gunner..but in the sense that B's aren't good enough and all that crap. As long as I get my A, I don't care if it's the highest..although I like it when it is. But who doesn't?
B's are anything but crap in dental school.
my gunner radar is picking up a signal now
wow some people here amaze me. If you'd be a professor would you really ruin someones life/ future b/c he cheated on your exam? wouldn't a conversation be enough? with a cheating on her record she'll never be able to get into med school.....
I am not the one who would cheat, but comeon the guy probably ruined her future.... I will be the first who would follow the rules but sometimes you have to think what the consequences will be and if its really worth to screw someone that bad.
wow some people here amaze me. If you'd be a professor would you really ruin someones life/ future b/c he cheated on your exam? wouldn't a conversation be enough? with a cheating on her record she'll never be able to get into med school.....
I am not the one who would cheat, but comeon the guy probably ruined her future.... I will be the first who would follow the rules but sometimes you have to think what the consequences will be and if its really worth to screw someone that bad.
Heres a post of the from 2006 from the "same" person....looks like 2 years has passed and he/she still hasnt got into med. school...dang that sucks
I guess moral of the story....once a cheater, always a cheater!
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=271360
Hi guys im new to this but i was reading this thread and got really scared, so i created a profile to ask for opinion on my similar situation. Let me start off by saying that i have never ever cheated in any test or tried altering my grade in any way ever!!
Also, what has happened to me is not on my permanent record, i was just on "probation" for 1 semester. In the AADSAS app it says "Have you ever been dismissed, expelled, found to have violated an honor code, disqualified, suspended, put on probation, or otherwise been subject to disciplinary action at any college/university in connection to misconduct" i said yes because i did not want to lie. here is the explanation i wrote and this is 100% honest.
[SIZE=-1]"In fall of 2005 one of the students at SFSU offered to enroll me into an introductory Biology class I needed, without a wait list.Due to numerous failed attempts to enroll in the class,I accepted without thinking.I realized later how unfair this was to the other students and that I should have waited in line just like everybody else. I was put probation for one semester and wrote a letter of apology to the school. This was the first(and last) time that I have done anything like this and from this experience I learned a valuable lesson: there are no shortcuts on life. I will never be dishonest again.[/SIZE]"
I would have written more but they give you limited space. I have good GPA and DAT, great LORs, lots& LOTS of shadowing, assisting, research and other ECs and have not heard from the 15 schools that i applied to in August- im wondering that it is for this reason and i can say goodbye to D school because of this? I was much younger and irresponsible back then. I went to a state school, which is overpacked with students and was not able to get into my intro bio class which is pre-req for every upper division class for a lot of semesters thats y i did what i did. i feel horrible to this day but whats done is done... please let me know what you think..
ur funny and u made me feel better! thank youthat is a terrible thing to do. you CUT in line!!? no, youll be fine.
So it's against the rules to hold courses for other students? They shouldn't let their systems do that, if so.ur funny and u made me feel better! thank you