Pre-Residency Fellowships?

[Doctora Foxy]

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I have an "uncle" who is a dermatologist. He once told me about a 2 year program where you can do a pathology "residency (?)" and then get into a derm residency. Do these programs exist? I was only a freshman when he told me this, so I didn't understand at the time.

 

[UAB]

I don?t know exactly what do you want to say with pathology and after dermatology.
A lot of people applying to dermatology spend 1-2 years before the residency in a dermatology research fellowship to improve the chances to match in the extremely competitive dermatology, otherwise can be very difficult.

 

[PCSOM02]

There is a fellowship in pathodermatology for those who have finished a 5 yr program in path. After this additional yr, you're a dermatologist if you want to be.

 

[Doctora Foxy]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by PCSOM02:
•There is a fellowship in pathodermatology for those who have finished a 5 yr program in path. After this additional yr, you're a dermatologist if you want to be.•••••This makes sense I guess. I actually volunteered with dermatopathologists, and they told me you have to do a derm residency and a path residency (8 years total) to become a dermatopathologist and practice dermatology.

I'm just wondering about pre-res fellowships in general. Are they to get you into a competitive field, or to make sure you like a field? How often are these done?

Thanks 🙂

 

[rad]

or you can do a 3 year derm. residency followed by a one year dermpath fellowship

 

[arthur v]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by PCSOM02:
•There is a fellowship in pathodermatology for those who have finished a 5 yr program in path. After this additional yr, you're a dermatologist if you want to be.•••••Actually, you're only board eligible in dermatopathology at that point. You spend half of the dermpath fellowship in clinical dermatology in order to appreciate the gross pathology of what you're looking at under the microscope. This does not make you a dermatologist. Many physicians treat skin disease - FP's, pediatricians, internists, etc. - but to call yourself a dermatologist, you have to be certified by the American Board of Dermatology, which has the requirement that you complete a bona fide dermatology residency.

AV

 

[Whisker Barrel Cortex]

I don't know a whole lot about these pre-residency fellowships, but I know that are school has a pre-intern year for neurosurgery. Basically, people who want to get into neurosurg and couldn't do so through the regular match do this "year of hell" where they are the whipping boys (or girls) of the residency. They then apply for residency at their own program and others with hopes this year will show their dedication and get them a spot.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Actually a "pre-intern" year would simply be a Preliminary Med/Surg or Transitional Year. This is no different in any field in which an applicant doesn't match and wishes to do a Prelim year AS AN INTERN to "prove themselves" to the PD and faculty in their field of choice.

I am unaware of the term "pre-residency fellowship"; some residencies require previous GME training, usually in the form of a Prelim Med or Surg year, but fellowships are generally relegated to the post-residency years.

 

[Whisker Barrel Cortex]

The pre-intern in this case is part of the neurosurgery department and basically does a lot of the neurosurg scut with no OR at all. If he/she applies next year, he/she will still have to do a full 7 neurosurgery residency.