Preliminary Surgery

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  1. Nubtastic

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    Can someone explain what this is? I am guessing that it is a one year position that is for people interested in going into a surgical subspecialty.
     
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    check Isersons book Getting into a Residency...youll know all the specialities you can go into after prelim surgery
     
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    It's probably the closest thing to hell on earth.
     
  5. Sanman

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    80 to 120 hour weeks, where your only joy is sticking a knife into people and playing with their insides. It is definitely a tool of the devil. <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nubtastic:
    <strong>Can someone explain what this is? I am guessing that it is a one year position that is for people interested in going into a surgical subspecialty.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's called answering other people's pages, admitting patients without being allowed to make decisions, and doing scut on the floor while your general surgery elders are in the OR.

    Life is slightly better at a community hospital.
     
  7. Winged Scapula

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Sanman:
    <strong>80 to 120 hour weeks, where your only joy is sticking a knife into people and playing with their insides. It is definitely a tool of the devil. <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Since when are Prelims actually getting the joy of sticking knives into people? OR time? Largely few and far between, especially at university programs.! :D
     
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    So what are the specialties one can go into after "preliminary surgery"?????

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Careofme:
    <strong>So what are the specialties one can go into after "preliminary surgery"?????

    Careofme</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Most surgical subspecialties, ie. Urology, Ortho, ENT, etc., require at least 1 year of Preliminary Surgery. Other fields, such as Anesthesiology and Radiology require a Prelim YEAR but do not specify whether or not it be Medicine or Surgery. IMHO, only a fool would choose a Surgical year in these cases.
     
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    I realized I hadn't noted that most people apply for their Prelim year and PGY-2 year at the same time (ie, during the same match season; indeed some PGY-2 programs either offer you the Prelim spot as well or require that you apply for Prelim year at the same time). There are always people who don't match for the PGY-2 year or vice versa (ie, getting the PGY-2 year but not the Prelim year) so you would go through the match the following year for the missing position (or the scramble if you didn't get the Prelim spot).

    Hope this helps/
     
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    Thanks very much...I'll probably be applying as an Osteopath. As far as I understand it, it is fairly much the same except the pre-lim year would be an AOA-intership year - am I thinking correctly about this?

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    Yeah i guess osteopaths have it easier finding prelim spots. For anyone else....prelim surgery is a no no if they can avoid it..medicine or transitional are ok. Also prelim surgery is easy to get even in the scramble as only abour 40% or so fill(not suprising). Horryfyingly several prelim surgery programs have brutal(q3) call schedules. I am anesth. guy and i cleary chose to do a prelim in medicine and happy about it
     

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