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Hello everyone,
I am currently the co-president of the Medicine Club at my high school, which is private. The tuition is quite expensive, so you can imagine that a majority of the students come from a medical background! :laugh:.

My dad is an interventional radiologist, and my mom is neurosurgeon. The other co-president's father is a plastic surgeon. Furthermore, we have a member in our group who's father is an ER surgeon at HOAG hospital (one of the most prestigious hospitals in Orange County) and another who's mother is a trauma surgeon as Saddleback Memorial (very very very expensive hospital).

I'm asking you guys what activities you'd reccommend us to do?
We plan on observing surgery at the hospital twice a month, as well as shadowing a large practice of orthopedic surgeons, opthalms, and Gas doctors. We also plan on working with our club sponsor, the school's AP Biology teacher, to engage in research. Furthermore, we will have doctors thru connections come lecture for us. Finally, we will learn anatomy and biology together as a group.

If there are any cool ideas or any suggestions to make our club better I cannot express how much I'd like to hear them!

Thanks,

KRA
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Holy crap! 9th grade, that's pretty incredible that you're already so invested in becoming a doctor. You guys should see if one of your parents would be able to come in and share their stories about becoming a doctor for the students who don't have doctors as parents. It would be a great opportunity for some Q&A as well.
 

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Always great to have medical students come talk about what you need to do. Bonus points if they went to your high school.

Having doctors come speak is great but any advice they would have about becoming a doctor is probably going to be out of date with the constantly changing medical admissions process.
 
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Organdonor, my high school is one that produces a significant number of doctors, however they mostly become dermatologists, plastic surgeons, sports ortho, etc. My dad was telling me that all these people would talk about is how fast their Lamborghini goes :rolleyes:.
I think as a club we have agreed that having talks and lectures will be a significant attribute. I think we will utilize a format similar to Ted talks: essentially, the doctor will talk about what they do, how they got into their field, what technology is used, common procedures, their favorite part of their job, etc.

Of course, the doctor will talk about how to become a doctor, but I can confidently say that I think our club is more about the world of medicine more so than becoming a MD. You bring up a really good point about the application process, though. The doctor can explain how they think the application process will change in the near future or something similar to that.

Hex,
Q and A is a really good idea. I never thought about that. Thanks!
 
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Well, I was going to respond by bolding the parts in your first post that were pretentious and ostentatious, but I ended up bolding nearly the whole thing, so it was kind of pointless. Try to tone it down a little bit. You could have asked your question without giving your parent's resume, how expensive your high school is, and how prestigious/expensive the hospitals are that your friend's parents work at.
 
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It was meant to show the epitome of how much potential I believe my club has, not to show off.
Therefore, I asked for some help to make my club better, because the potential energy is there; I need help making it into kinetic energy
 

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Try to look at many fields in medicine as well.
Well, I was going to respond by bolding the parts in your first post that were pretentious and ostentatious, but I ended up bolding nearly the whole thing, so it was kind of pointless. Try to tone it down a little bit. You could have asked your question without giving your parent's resume, how expensive your high school is, and how prestigious/expensive the hospitals are that your friend's parents work at.
Much agreed, i got an odd taste while reading this thread, but i will still throw an idea out there.

Try getting some opportunities to shadow all kinds of people in the field, not necessarily doctors. Also, try inviting a firefighter to come in or someone who is part of their med team, they always have great stories and are truly passionate about their work.

Goodluck! Congrats on the position in your club. =)
 
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Hello everyone,
I am currently the co-president of the Medicine Club at my high school, which is private. The tuition is quite expensive, so you can imagine that a majority of the students come from a medical background! :laugh:.

My dad is an interventional radiologist, and my mom is neurosurgeon. The other co-president's father is a plastic surgeon. Furthermore, we have a member in our group who's father is an ER surgeon at HOAG hospital (one of the most prestigious hospitals in Orange County) and another who's mother is a trauma surgeon as Saddleback Memorial (very very very expensive hospital).

I'm asking you guys what activities you'd reccommend us to do?
We plan on observing surgery at the hospital twice a month, as well as shadowing a large practice of orthopedic surgeons, opthalms, and Gas doctors. We also plan on working with our club sponsor, the school's AP Biology teacher, to engage in research. Furthermore, we will have doctors thru connections come lecture for us. Finally, we will learn anatomy and biology together as a group.

If there are any cool ideas or any suggestions to make our club better I cannot express how much I'd like to hear them!

Thanks,

KRA
9th Grade
Co-President of the Medicine Club.
Having guest speakers as noted above is always enjoyable; the physicians typically like doing it and the students enjoy listening to the talks. If your prior guests have only talked about "how fast their Lamborghini's" go, I suggest that you seek out resources elsewhere. Perhaps invite some family physicians, psychiatrists, medical geneticists, etc. who perhaps who be less inclined to brag.

Guest speakers are useful to reduce some misconceptions about the field (ie, there is no such thing as an "ER surgeon" - its either an EM Physician [not a surgeon], a trauma surgeon or a general surgeon); they should not spend time talking about admissions to medical school as it changes frequently and most practicing physicians will be out of date.

Also consider inviting non-physicians, but some medical researchers and other non-clinical practitioners, so that your colleagues can see the breadth of what medicine can offer.

Finally, field trips or having a book club sort of event are also worthwhile.
 
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Let it be known that I personally do not want to become a doctor for the income, but rather to save lives. I was considering a ROAD specialty, but I think I have decided on Repro Endo or spinal neurosurgery. Again, my intention is not to show off, and I apologize if you mistook what I was trying to say as bragging. My point is that the vast majority of doctors in my area ARE physicians that do not take call, work a 9-5, and generally, yes, gasconade about their careers.

However, as aforementioned, I am in the process of planning "field trips" to observe surgery in the OR/ER, and I have already booked a couple weekends for us to observe some large practices dealing with ortho, opthalmology, etc etc.

Now, to get back on topic: I really like the idea of inviting some non-physicians, such as paramedics (would be cool to hear how they have to rapidly assist someone in a matter of minutes).
We have already planned to assign research to one person a week so that when we meet Friday in the afternoon he or she can present. I do not think it would be too difficult to have someone speak every time we meet as well. What they are going to talk about.....I'm not too sure.
I think they should bring up 5 things: why they like their job, what they do (procedures, techniques), what technology they use in their job, most stressful part, how much stress they have at times, etc.

Any other suggestions? keep them coming!
 

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Who is that?
 
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I do
 
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I use obscure and huge words all the time and I don't even have a thesaurus

Neither does the other guy. This is why I'm hot
 
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Wonder how many of those in the club will end up applying and matriculating to med school. :p

Yes. Your post does sound pretentious.. You might want to tone it down a bit or no one will like you in the real world.

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I hate spoiled pretentious little indian kids. And before someone calls me racist, I myself am Indian. In med school now and once I'm done I am going to make sure my kids never talk like the kid that started this thread.
 
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And lol at the fact that this kid already has decided his specialty
 

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2 more days bro!!!
I'm sweatin'! Have you joined Devil 2 Devil? Lol, ASU has their own social media site for incoming freshman, how BOSS is that? Can it be Friday already?

Btw OP, tbh, I think that's pretty cool that you are getting all these experiences! I wish I could of done them! Just remember to stay humble! Other than that, no hate.
 

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I'm sweatin'! Have you joined Devil 2 Devil? Lol, ASU has their own social media site for incoming freshman, how BOSS is that? Can it be Friday already?

Btw OP, tbh, I think that's pretty cool that you are getting all these experiences! I wish I could of done them! Just remember to stay humble! Other than that, no hate.
I've seen the link. Been too lazy to make a profile lol.
 

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I'm sweatin'! Have you joined Devil 2 Devil? Lol, ASU has their own social media site for incoming freshman, how BOSS is that? Can it be Friday already?

Btw OP, tbh, I think that's pretty cool that you are getting all these experiences! I wish I could of done them! Just remember to stay humble! Other than that, no hate.
got around to setting one up. sent you a friend request! also created a group for barrett admits.
 

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I really have no suggestions for your club, when I was in 9th grade I had zero interest into going to med school so I can't compare. I have no family members that are doctors either, I did have two great-grandparents that were doctors on both sides of the family that died like 100 years before I was born; one served medicine during the mexican revolution when being fair skinned with an exotic spanish surname could get you killed for no apparent reason.

Having medical relatives can be a blessing or a curse, your relative can let you shadow them and if you are already a med student, they might allow you to do a few minor procedures supervised and pay you a small fee. I had a classmate whose uncle was a general surgeon and paid her a small fee to help him during the weekends. It can also be a curse because your relatives might want to choose a specialty for you which you might not even like. Med schools can be skeptical about applicants who might not have the same passion for medicine because the families are pushing junior into their field. I know all too many cases of children of a famous doctor who is the worst student ever, hates medicine beyond reason and is only there because his/her parent is paying for everything.

It would be nice if you got into contact with a different kind of doctor especially one of a less generously paying field. It's not the same to be exposed to the "popis" as we say in spanish specialists that went to high earning surgical subspecialties working in posh hospitals. You might be getting too exposed to a small minority of doctors that did med school in an era when matching into such a specialty was very easy because there were less applicants and seem to have more relaxed schedules as senior attendings than the average fresh graduate of today who always gets the worst schedules and the last choice to go on vacation because they are the new guy.

People being raised with a rosey pink image of medicine may face a harsh, cruel reality when they see things are not so rosey pink in the real world when they graduate. Residency slots everywhere are getting harder and harder to get into and are not growing, you will not be treated like a special snowflake when it comes to doing board exams and interview time. If residency slots are not increased by the time in at least 10 years you are trying to match, you might end up fighting for a slot of a field you don't like at all. You'd probably get more bang for your buck taking extensive medical spanish lessons given 60% of the population of California are hispanic instead of anatomy. Knowing a fluent level of spanish is a big plus these days and that trend will only continue. No special add-on extra courses you take before med school are super needed (unless it's required for your undergrad degree), med school is rough & tough but they will teach you what you need to know. The general consensus is that getting a head start on topics you don't know yet is a waste of time.