I am currently working on a list of programmes that offer observerships in General Surgery. I am actually searching for programmes in Michigan and Oklahoma . So if any of you guys out there are familiar with such programmes than kindly mention the names of those programmes in your replies to this thread.
Programmes that offer Obseverships
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I dont' think that many people on this forum know what you mean by "observerships". ARe you a medical student? Are you wanting to do an elective to see what a program is like? If so, that's fairly easy to do, just go to the aamc.org, follow links to medical schools and then you can pick by state. There are links for each school, and then you can search the schools web site for senior elective or 4th year electives.
If you mean something else, please clarify what you are wanting to do.
If you mean something else, please clarify what you are wanting to do.
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To clarify things a bit...
Typically an "observership" is a position designed for foreign medical grads without any US clinical experience. Because they have already finished medical school, they are not eligible for the elective clerkships mentioned in the post above. Furthermore, many are unable to get paid positions in which they have clinical contact with patients due to liability issues. Therefore, the observership is rather popular with FMGs.
These are generally not formalized contracts, but set up on a case by case basis, usually directly with a faculty member or department. While the experience may yield the oh-so valuable LOR for these individuals, the drawback is that again, due to liability issues, most are not allowed to do anything more than observe - ie, they cannot do procedures, see patients alone, etc.
At any rate, to answer the OPs query, I don't have any information on such, but I'm sure if others do, we would appreciate it being posted here. That said, I'll move this to the International Forum where it is better suited.
Typically an "observership" is a position designed for foreign medical grads without any US clinical experience. Because they have already finished medical school, they are not eligible for the elective clerkships mentioned in the post above. Furthermore, many are unable to get paid positions in which they have clinical contact with patients due to liability issues. Therefore, the observership is rather popular with FMGs.
These are generally not formalized contracts, but set up on a case by case basis, usually directly with a faculty member or department. While the experience may yield the oh-so valuable LOR for these individuals, the drawback is that again, due to liability issues, most are not allowed to do anything more than observe - ie, they cannot do procedures, see patients alone, etc.
At any rate, to answer the OPs query, I don't have any information on such, but I'm sure if others do, we would appreciate it being posted here. That said, I'll move this to the International Forum where it is better suited.
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I completely agree with Kimberli, as this entire process applied to me. As a Foreign Medical Student, I did get a chance to do some Student Electives, with on hands clinical training. But once I graduated Medical School, observships was all I could get my hands on.
In either case, OHaq, I am not sure if you will find this helpful or not, but I can tell you that I did an Elective in Neurosurgery, at University of San Francisco California. That was a year ago, at which time they only offered FMG Electives in Neurosurgery and Diagnostic Radiology. I suggest that you contact the department directly and ask around. I am not sure if they still offer it for FMG's or not.
Another hospital that is open to FMG Electives, and or observships is Northwestern University. Again, this was 2 years ago, so I'm not sure where they stand now.
The basic idea here, and the way I found out about these hospitals was by contacting the departments directly.
Give them a call, and see what they have to offer.
Good luck !
In either case, OHaq, I am not sure if you will find this helpful or not, but I can tell you that I did an Elective in Neurosurgery, at University of San Francisco California. That was a year ago, at which time they only offered FMG Electives in Neurosurgery and Diagnostic Radiology. I suggest that you contact the department directly and ask around. I am not sure if they still offer it for FMG's or not.
Another hospital that is open to FMG Electives, and or observships is Northwestern University. Again, this was 2 years ago, so I'm not sure where they stand now.
The basic idea here, and the way I found out about these hospitals was by contacting the departments directly.
Give them a call, and see what they have to offer.
Good luck !
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