Publications

[fyli260]

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Just curious, how many people on here have first or second author publications?

 

[BAM!]

perhaps a better poll would include zero as a response. I think a lot of us are not published!

=D

 

[dr.z]

I have one of each.

 

[Brain]

One first author in press, one second author editorial submitted

 

[evajaclynn]

Another response would be that the papers are in progress, but not published yet!

 

[neuropower]

i'm sitting at my desk now writing what will be my first publication! well, actually i'm procrastinating on sdn because by 4:30 i just can't do anymore. i have NO IDEA if i'll get to be second author or not. i doubt it. even though i'm doing all the work 😡
oh well!

 

[fyli260]

Wow! I'm amazed at how many people made it with high authorship publications. I guess it doesn't seem that impossible to get first authorship papers afterall. Congrats to you all well accomplished people!

 

[wendywellesley]

Wow! I'm amazed at how many people made it with high authorship publications. I guess it doesn't seem that impossible to get first authorship papers afterall. Congrats to you all well accomplished people!

i think from the outside looking in first author seems really impressive. i'm on my way to first author myself (keeping fingers crossed) but i think its because i'm lucky to have a PI that wants me to be first author. first author isn't all it's cracked up to be. it's part of a game, really. first author really means (this is my understanding from talking to many grad students) that you did all the grunt work and ran the experiments. the creative work and the theory came from the PI who is the last author (corresponding author). a lot of the time, the paper isn't actually writen by the first author but by the PI who gives this particuar project to whoever seems best fit for it and they do the experiments.

 

[OrGoMan]

What happens if you write on you applic that the paper is in the process of being published, does that count for anything?

 

[JohnBasedow]

a lot of the time, the paper isn't actually writen by the first author but by the PI who gives this particuar project to whoever seems best fit for it and they do the experiments.

If this is the case, I'd love to have your PI!!!! Writing the manuscript is no small task in itself. Personally, I've never met a first author who did not do the bulk of the writing of a paper.

 

[wendywellesley]

If this is the case, I'd love to have your PI!!!! Writing the manuscript is no small task in itself. Personally, I've never met a first author who did not do the bulk of the writing of a paper.

i've been writing most of my paper, for me, that's the best part. but thinking about it, i think since most of the students in my lab don't speak english that well, my PI has no choice.

what field are you in, John?

 

[Ol'DocToxic]

What happens if you write on you applic that the paper is in the process of being published, does that count for anything?

It is acceptable to list articles that are in the process of being published on your CV/resume/application.

If the paper is accepted and you are just waiting for it to come out in the journal, you can write "in press" behind the title and journal name of the paper.

If your paper is merely submitted for peer review, you write "submitted" after the title of the paper.

The "in press" articles count the same as a published paper, since it has passed peer review. A "submitted" citation is not quite as good as "in press" or already published because it could still be rejected by reviewers or the journal's editor-in-chief and end up unpublished.

 

[bbaek]

i think from the outside looking in first author seems really impressive. i'm on my way to first author myself (keeping fingers crossed) but i think its because i'm lucky to have a PI that wants me to be first author. first author isn't all it's cracked up to be. it's part of a game, really. first author really means (this is my understanding from talking to many grad students) that you did all the grunt work and ran the experiments. the creative work and the theory came from the PI who is the last author (corresponding author). a lot of the time, the paper isn't actually writen by the first author but by the PI who gives this particuar project to whoever seems best fit for it and they do the experiments.

exactly what is the name of the journal or publication are you submitting or in process of getting published? i want to see if you are a first author of well-known, mediocre, or a sub-par level journal...

 

[tigress]

According to the official training we had to do for grad school, the "rules" say that whoever writes the manuscript should be first author, but I'm sure not everybody actually follows that. Also in order to be included as an author you are supposed to have contributed to the creative process of designing the project as well as writing the paper. For most undergraduates all of this is not possible (of course some can do it, and do)

 

[Brain]

First author does the bulk of the work for the manuscript including experiments and writing. I have a first author paper in press for Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, a second author invited editorial to the Journal of Infectious Diseases, and am about to start writing another first author to submit to Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy. Also have a couple of conference presentations.

 

[wendywellesley]

exactly what is the name of the journal or publication are you submitting or in process of getting published? i want to see if you are a first author of well-known, mediocre, or a sub-par level journal...

we will probably send to PNAS or Biochemistry. how about you? are you first author on any papers?

okay- i seem to be getting a lot of heat for what i said ealier. i don't mean that the first author just gets a free ride. not at all!! you do have to work your butt off for first author. sure first author is involved in the creative process but the PI does the bulk of the creative work, like the original idea in many cases. this is has been *MY* experience and i've been working for pay with a well known PI 15 hours a week for a year and half.

bbeak- i take it you are religious person judging by your signature, it is unfortunate that a g-d fearing person like yourself would publically laugh at someone without knowing anything about them.

 

[bbaek]

we will probably send to PNAS or Biochemistry. how about you? are you first author on any papers?

okay- i seem to be getting a lot of heat for what i said ealier. i don't mean that the first author just gets a free ride. not at all!! you do have to work your butt off for first author. sure first author is involved in the creative process but the PI does the bulk of the creative work, like the original idea in many cases. this is has been *MY* experience and i've been working for pay with a well known PI 15 hours a week for a year and half.

bbeak- i take it you are religious person judging by your signature, it is unfortunate that a g-d fearing person like yourself would publically laugh at someone without knowing anything about them.

hehe, it was a joke... i didn't mean to scare you off in anyway. i'm very happy that you are able to send it to some respectable journals. maybe i can learn more from you about publications as i have started researching this week and hopefully will be able to do some independent research with a first author paper in a respectable journal! 😀

 

[CarleneM]

i do see what wendywellesley is saying but i have had a little different experience. In our research group, the head of our research group pretty much always puts himself last on the papers and presentations regardless of the amount of work he did. He's usually, but not always, the PI. He says that early in your career, being first author is the key piece of real estate and indicates that you are very responsible for both the design and execution of the project but later in your career, you want to be last author because it indicates you are like the head honcho of your group. This is the case with many research groups I know. He also says that everyone knows if an MD or PhD is the first author but the second author has a BA that the second author probably did most of the work so its still an excellent place to be if you are just starting out. 3rd, 4th etc all the way to last have much smaller roles in the project or are just on there for political reasons. I have a lot of poster presentations as first and second author but have yet to get that coveted first publication. A second author one of mine should be "in press" by the summer with any luck. Its tough in psych research to have fast turnaround on these things.

 

[PatentGuy33]

Just curious, how many people on here have first or second author publications?

Two first-author (one sole first, one co-first ("contributed equally"), one second-author)

 

[bbaek]

2 first author, one second author, one journal cover (a photo that I took), one abstract...no interviews.

wow, which journals were you for the first author?

 

[Mr PluM]

molecular biology of the cell, characterized a novel protein