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publics that take out of staters

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by chucky85, May 16, 2007.

  1. chucky85

    chucky85 2+ Year Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    i notice most public medical schools want students from their home state,
    which public med schools do not discriminate in vs out of state students?
    secondly, is it true that private schools offer better financial aid than public
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  3. postbacker

    postbacker Banned Banned

    Mar 27, 2007
    You really need to get a copy of the MSAR and come up with your own list (for example, where do you live? Nobody is going to waste their time creating this list for you without knowing that)...also, when you are looking at an out-of-state public, the tuition is usually quite high, on a par with the privates...finaid in the form of grants and scholarships seems to be quite limited, and some schools give none at all...
  4. I know UVA's public and their demographics are 53% OOS, 47% IS.

    Sucks for me since I'm from VA.
  5. alwaysaangel

    alwaysaangel 5+ Year Member

    Sep 4, 2006
    Orange, CA
    Like someone else said - it really depends where you're from.

    From what I remember:

    Nice to OOSers:
    SUNYs in NY are great to OOS
    EVMS is ok, not great though

    Bad for OOSers:
    U of A absolutely will not look at you if you're not a resident
    Hawaii, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Kentucky, Indiana require that you can show ties to the state
    A lot of the schools in the South aren't real friendly to OOSers

    Those are just of the ones I remember looking at. Hopefully others can contribute more.

    But pretty much you're going to be in a ton of debt whether you do private or OOS.
  6. pennybridge

    pennybridge Banned Banned

    Oct 13, 2006
    discriminate is a tricky word. UCLA and UCSF claim to have no preference, but the vast majority of their class is made up of in-state kids. OSU seems to be very friendly to out of staters also.

    edit// echoing what angel said, SUNYs are good. Arizona a big no. Same with UWashington. OHSU is iffy, I'm not sure on that one.

    depends on the school. Mayo and Stanford are extremely generous, RFU and USC famously not.
  7. pennybridge

    pennybridge Banned Banned

    Oct 13, 2006
    lol fixed! :laugh:
  8. Anastasis

    Anastasis caffeinated for safety Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Texas schools are required to take at least 90% TX residents according to TX law, so put us on the not friendly to Yankees list. :D
  9. 146233

    146233 Phthirius pubis

    Apr 12, 2007
    Man, Texas just can't get enough of itself. :D
  10. Davjc2009

    Davjc2009 2+ Year Member

    Jan 2, 2007
    North Dakota

    OOS Acceptance Rate: 23%

  11. 146233

    146233 Phthirius pubis

    Apr 12, 2007
    2007-2008 MSAR shows SUNY Downstate matriculated 24 OOS students in a class of 187 (12.8%), and SUNY Upstate had 27 OOS'ers in a class of 120 (22.5%). I wouldn't call that "great". (Although 22.5% out of state isn't terrible for a state school.)

    Were last year's numbers better?

  12. alwaysaangel

    alwaysaangel 5+ Year Member

    Sep 4, 2006
    Orange, CA
    If you look 20% is a hell of a lot better than most state schools. I honestly don't remember what it was last year - I just remember it was higher than most other states and they don't explicitly give preference to in-state applicants (remember reading that on some of their websites).
  13. wcliffa

    wcliffa New Member 2+ Year Member

    Aug 20, 2006
    UAB does take some out of state students.
  14. crazy_cavalier

    crazy_cavalier T3-Weighted 7+ Year Member

    Indeed. VCU also takes a good chunk of OOS
  15. glamqueen

    glamqueen 5+ Year Member

    Apr 30, 2007
    Bump - this is a great thread for anyone wanting to find out public's that take a lot of oos applicants...I'm interested in more responses too....
  16. UMP

    UMP Recovered Under-Achiever 7+ Year Member

    Aug 27, 2004
    UMich takes a lot... Wayne State takes about 70 per year
  17. Samosas

    Samosas 2+ Year Member

    Feb 11, 2007
    illinois apparently loves californians. so if ur from california... just think of illinois as ur second home.

    seriously, illinois needs to enact a texas type law.

    stupid liberal states. gotta be fair to everyone.
  18. the negative 1

    the negative 1 Bovie to "war crimes" please 10+ Year Member

    Aug 14, 2004
    Charm City
    While I realize many public schools are pretty strict on limiting OOS folks, I was surprised by how many public schools sent interview invites to me when I was applying.

    Of course, I got not love from my home state. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: THIS WHOLE PROCESS MAKES NO SENSE!
  19. gsmithers68

    gsmithers68 2+ Year Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    OHSU, UMich, Ohio State, Wayne State, VCU, UVA, and maybe some others in the south that I am not aware of.... these are the ones that come to mind.

    Note: These schools still give preference to IS applicants but it just isn't as slighted as the other state schools that come to mind. I would say most of these schools are still at least 60-70% IS matriculants so keep that in mind...
  20. sparklergurlie4


    Apr 10, 2007
    Pitt is also great out of state!
  21. UVABranch

    UVABranch one of 6000 7+ Year Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Washington, DC
    That's just matriculants...couldn't they have offerd more positions to OOSers but they just chose not to attend?
  22. 146233

    146233 Phthirius pubis

    Apr 12, 2007
    Sure, but you'd expect, generally, a similar proportion of in state/out of staters.
  23. spunkybling

    spunkybling 5+ Year Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    UCLA geffen takes 99% in state (according to USnews). I'm OOS but my cousin goes to UCLA for MD/PhD... any chance for me? =p
  24. Doctor Bagel

    Doctor Bagel so cheap and juicy Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    This is why I prefer USNews data to the MSAR. It really can be a big difference -- at my school, only about 1/2 or the oos accepted students matriculate, so the 2 numbers are pretty different.

    To add to the list, Oklahoma takes a limited # of oos students (like 15% or something like that), but you have to have strong ties to the state to be considered. The secondary for oos students is to write a letter about these ties.
  25. kidthor

    kidthor meep 10+ Year Member

    Dec 5, 2005
    UVM takes a lot of OOSers.
  26. MahlerROCKS

    MahlerROCKS 5+ Year Member

    Jul 22, 2005
    Your Pants
    Yes, but unless they are a URM, they'll have to deal with the large oos tuition
  27. spunkybling

    spunkybling 5+ Year Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    So is the data from USnews the percentage of acceptances or matriculates?
  28. farikanok

    farikanok Member 7+ Year Member

    Jun 9, 2006
    if i'm not mistaken, for MD/Ph.D., the OOS/IS distinction almost doesn't exist. even schools that take absolutely no one OOS, like university of washington, still take OOS MSTP students.
  29. spunkybling

    spunkybling 5+ Year Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Sorry, I meant to ask for just the MD program-- will the fact that I have a family member going there already help me get into the MD program out of state? Or should I not even try with the 99% thing...
  30. notdeadyet

    notdeadyet Still in California Moderator 10+ Year Member

    Jul 23, 2004
    Way too hard to generalize. Some privates and some publics offer some scholarship to all matriculants. Some don't.

    Assume you won't get getting any scholarship money and be pleasantly suprised if you are. A majority of us won't.
  31. Critical Mass

    Critical Mass Guest

    Feb 23, 2007
    The best data I've seen is on this post:

    I'll also put in a plug for the list that I made regarding good states to live in if you want to become a doctor. Just click on the MSAR link in my signature for that one.
  32. Dr2Bee

    Dr2Bee 2+ Year Member

    Sep 27, 2006
    I think NJ schools like Robert W. Johnson??
  33. Shpamme

    Shpamme status pages confuse me. 5+ Year Member

    Dec 14, 2005
    michigan state is public and seems to be good to OOS

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