Pulmonary/Critical Care 2010-2011 Application Cycle

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I got an interview from MUSC, anyone knows anything about the program?

Smaller, very academic, research orientated. Outside of your basic pulm, they've got some guys doing some pretty cool stuff with pleural diseases and the pleural space.

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Smaller, very academic, research orientated. Outside of your basic pulm, they've got some guys doing some pretty cool stuff with pleural diseases and the pleural space.
Hey Thanks a lot
 
1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: jrdagooc, PCC0810
 
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Received invitation from Univ of Minnesota today
 
1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: jrdagooc, PCC0810
9) MUSC: Barny
10) Yale: jco
 
Rejection from Emory, same as you all. Too bad.
Did anyone else get a strange message from Hopkins telling you about their program and why it's great? I've got all the required documents and such submitted. Thought it was a little interesting, just curious.

Also, can anyone point me towards a review/impression of the program at Ohio State? I've searched online including SDN and can't find much. Sounds like a great program, looking for more info. Thx!


1) Winthrop University Hospital (Mineola, NY): jrdagooc, PCC0810
2) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
3) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
4) St Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3
5) Emory: drl1980
6) University of Minnesota: jco
7) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810

Yup, got that message from Hopkins and U Pen. I think its a general message they send to all applicants. I wouldn't read too much into it.
 
Every program will want to have a letter from your PD

thanks. added the PD letter today. Maybe that is why wasn't getting any interviews.
 
Hello everybody, I decided to participate in this forum and hopefully my input will be useful for future applicants if i make it this year...

-PGY-2/University affiliated IM Program
-2 Lors from known PCCM specialists/1 from PD/Awaiting for fourth letter to be uploaded from non PCCM attending
-Interested in Research and academics LOL
-222/240/Step 3 to take
-2 Posters
-1 Research Project
-US citizen
-IMG
-Extracurricular:I love to dance : )
-Applied today to 50 Programs

Wishing everybody the best of lucks and Merry Christmas, I hope this is a benign forum full of positive minds.
 
Hello everybody, I decided to participate in this forum and hopefully my input will be useful for future applicants if i make it this year...

-PGY-2/University affiliated IM Program
-2 Lors from known PCCM specialists/1 from PD/Awaiting for fourth letter to be uploaded from non PCCM attending
-Interested in Research and academics LOL
-222/240/Step 3 to take
-2 Posters
-1 Research Project
-US citizen
-IMG
-Extracurricular:I love to dance : )
-Applied today to 50 Programs

Wishing everybody the best of lucks and Merry Christmas, I hope this is a benign forum full of positive minds.



hello everybody
wishing u all the best of the luck,
I am IMG on j visa
PGY2 applying for pccm
score86.98.80
small community hospital
some research experience
applying to 60 program pccm
would anybody from the old members speculate what are my chances ,
no interviews till now
rejection from St louis
 
My first Invite for the interview season- St Loius Univ.

1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: jrdagooc, PCC0810
9) MUSC: Barny
10) Yale: jco
 
SLU is another solid program, critical care probably more notable than the pulmonary. Very over shadowed with Wash U "across the street".
 
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@ Glacier : Congrats buddy
@jdh71: Hi jdh71, thanks for all the inputs and help to all of us. jhd71 do you have some information about carilion clinic, will really appreciate if you can share with us.
 
Thanks aryan3 and thanks jdh71 for the info.
Does anyone know if the interview ends exactly at 4pm for St Loius.. asking coz I am wondering if it will be possible to catch a 5:15pm flight from St. Loius?
 
@ Glacier : Congrats buddy
@jdh71: Hi jdh71, thanks for all the inputs and help to all of us. jhd71 do you have some information about carilion clinic, will really appreciate if you can share with us.

Honestly, I really don't know enough to even comment. Sorry guys.
 
Adding UT Southwestern

1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: jrdagooc, PCC0810
9) MUSC: Barny
10) Yale: jco
11) UT Southwestern: drl1980
 
University of Cinncinati Interview, Any thoughts about that program?
 
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Updating the list:

1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: jrdagooc, PCC0810
9) MUSC: Barny
10) Yale: jco
11) UT Southwestern: drl1980
12) University of Cinncinati: Barny
 
University of Cinncinati Interview, Any thoughts about that program?

I've only heard good things about Cinnci, though I didn't interview there and I don't know anyone personally who did. As I understand it more clinically orientated, less research. Some of the programs where I did interview had sent fellows there as new staff, and I thought that also kind of spoke well of the program
 
1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
9) MUSC: Barny
10) Yale: jco
11) UT Southwestern: drl1980
12) University of Cinncinati: Barny
13) AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
14) Oregon Helath and Science University: cafed
 
how highly rated is oregon, in your opinion, jdh?
 
Adding Indiana University:

1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
9) MUSC: Barny
10) Yale: jco
11) UT Southwestern: drl1980
12) University of Cinncinati: Barny
13) AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
14) Oregon Helath and Science University: cafed
15) Indiana University: SIGA
 
how highly rated is oregon, in your opinion, jdh?

Oregon is an interesting and unique place IMHO, and here is why . . . Some of the gods of anesthesia critical care live there, and as such there is a unique multi-disciplinary approach to critical care and cutting edge research and technologies. All of which the IM pulm/cc fellow will get exposure too. They are very research orientated and very academic. They are probably a top 20-25 place for academic pulm/cc.

Also, hospital is gorgeous. Location is excellent.
 
Adding Indiana University:

Another solid program. Big program too if I remember right (5 or 6 fellows a year) - busy covering University, County, and VA if my memory still serves . . . GREAT training.

1) Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
2) Emory Univeristy: drl1980
3) Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
4) St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
5) University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
6) University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
7) Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
8) Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
9) MUSC: Barny
10) Yale: jco
11) UT Southwestern: drl1980
12) University of Cinncinati: Barny
13) AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
14) Oregon Helath and Science University: cafed
15) Indiana University: SIGA

What is this amateur hour guys?! :D Someone needs to do this list up in alphabetical order.
 
What is this amateur hour guys?! :D Someone needs to do this list up in alphabetical order.

I've put the program names back in bold because I think it’s easier on the eye and I arranged them in alphabetical order :p. I don't think we need the numbers anymore.

If you want to maintain this format while adding more programs then quote the most recent list and then remove the
codes at the beginning and at the end of the message.


AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
Emory: drl1980
Indiana University: SIGA, jco
MUSC: Barny
Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
Oregon Health and Science University: cafed
St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
University of Cinncinati: Barny
University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
UT Southwestern: drl1980
Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
Yale: jco
 
Hi again every one. I recently got acceptance for one of my big papers from harvard. Can you guys help me how shall I inform programs of my new publication. Your input will be greatly appreciated.
Regards

Tarkan
 
I applied to about 18 programs, nothing further west than Colorado.
So far, I have gotten interviews from Emory, Yale, Cincy, Wash U, and Cleveland Clinic. Rejected by Colorado (which I kinda expected, since I'm not a PhD).
BTW, my program director gave me a flyer about a program through the NIH where you do Critical Care training in Bethesda and you have the option of doing Pulmonary, ID, etc as well. It seems like a really good opportunity, if you're into research at all. Does anybody know anything about this?? The website is http://www.cc.nih.gov/ccmd/prof_opps/fellowships.html
 
AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
Cleveland Clinic: MICU
Emory: drl1980, MICU
Indiana University: SIGA, jco
MUSC: Barny
Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
Oregon Health and Science University: cafed
St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
University of Cinncinati: Barny, MICU
University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
UT Southwestern: drl1980
Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
Washington University, St Louis: MICU
Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
Yale: jco, MICU
 
Rejection from Harvard! Not a good way to start New Years!
 
Rejection from Harvard for me too
 
Addiing University of Illinois at Chicago

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Updating MICU's IVs. Happy New Year everyone.
AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
Cleveland Clinic: MICU
Emory: drl1980, MICU
Indiana University: SIGA, jco
MUSC: Barny
Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
Oregon Health and Science University: cafed
St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
University of Cinncinati: Barny, MICU
University of Illinois at Chicago: Barny
University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
UT Southwestern: drl1980
Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
Washington University, St Louis: MICU
Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
Yale: jco, MICU
 
Rejection from Harvard! Not a good way to start New Years!

Rejection from Harvard for me too

How much research did you guys want to do anyway?

The BIGGEST difference between most of the "big names" and any other Pulm/CC program is generally the amount of research available, especially the basic science stuff. I think most people don't understand that if your goal is to simply learn how to do clinical pulm and take care of sick people in the unit a big name academic program is not necessary.
 
Got invitation from East Carolina University today.


AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
Cleveland Clinic: MICU
East Carolina University: jrdagooc
Emory: drl1980, MICU
Indiana University: SIGA, jco
MUSC: Barny
Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
Oregon Health and Science University: cafed
St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
University of Cinncinati: Barny, MICU
University of Illinois at Chicago: Barny
University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
UT Southwestern: drl1980
Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
Washington University, St Louis: MICU
Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
Yale: jco, MICU
 
How much research did you guys want to do anyway?

The BIGGEST difference between most of the "big names" and any other Pulm/CC program is generally the amount of research available, especially the basic science stuff. I think most people don't understand that if your goal is to simply learn how to do clinical pulm and take care of sick people in the unit a big name academic program is not necessary.

JDH is spot on. I would say the big name programs are worse for the clinically oriented, private practice bound person. The "academic" progrsm (Colorado, Harvard, UW, Hopkins, Vandy, Pitt, etc) are funded by NIH T32 training grants that get refunded based on the % of fellows enterring full time academic medicine (i.e. research). Generally, you do 18mo of clinical then 30 months of academic time with an MPH, MScI, or Phd rolled in. These places generally discourage the private practice bound people from applying. They do clinical research but don't expect the same # of bronchs, perc trachs, ICU months, PFT reads, etc. etc. from the big name academic spots. There are other academic hospitals that have wonderful clinical fellowships that will train you to be an incredible clinical pulm/cc person.
 
Agree with jdh1. Dont sweat over big or small names. The big centers are more research oriented and are best if you desire an academic career. For those wanting to master clinical skills and hoping to join private practice or community hospitals, the average programs in run down areas are the best. When I interviewed; it was clear from the discussion with fellows where they will end up based on what programs they belonged to. The guys at Yale could not stop talking about their mast cell research with Jack Elias for 20 months and barely meeting bronch requirements in 3 years whereas fellows at Montefiore had seen it all in terms of clinical stuff but hardly had done research.

May you match at the place you desire. Best wishes to everyone.


JDH is spot on. I would say the big name programs are worse for the clinically oriented, private practice bound person. The "academic" progrsm (Colorado, Harvard, UW, Hopkins, Vandy, Pitt, etc) are funded by NIH T32 training grants that get refunded based on the % of fellows enterring full time academic medicine (i.e. research). Generally, you do 18mo of clinical then 30 months of academic time with an MPH, MScI, or Phd rolled in. These places generally discourage the private practice bound people from applying. They do clinical research but don't expect the same # of bronchs, perc trachs, ICU months, PFT reads, etc. etc. from the big name academic spots. There are other academic hospitals that have wonderful clinical fellowships that will train you to be an incredible clinical pulm/cc person.
 
I still waiting to hear abt any interviews......getting nervous everyday whn I m reading thread
I was wondering,If u dont hear from program anything and someone already got interview..Is it considered rejection???
 
AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
Cleveland Clinic: MICU
East Carolina University: jrdagooc
Emory: drl1980, MICU
Indiana University: SIGA, jco
MUSC: Barny
Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
Oregon Health and Science University: cafed
St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
University of Cinncinati: Barny, MICU
University of Illinois at Chicago: Barny, NikitaPCCM
University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
UT Southwestern: drl1980
Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
Washington University, St Louis: MICU
Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
Yale: jco, MICU
 
Most interview invites will come in February. You've all been told this repeatedly.


Hey guys and girls, first time poster, (slightly fanatical) reader of this forum.

I am applying for PCCM too, and JDH, though over time I have found your words to be full of wisdom, until those of us who havent gotten interviews actually get some, you can tell us until you are blue in the face, but we are still going to be neurotic/nervous!

=) I guess that's the fun part!
 
Hey guys and girls, first time poster, (slightly fanatical) reader of this forum.

I am applying for PCCM too, and JDH, though over time I have found your words to be full of wisdom, until those of us who havent gotten interviews actually get some, you can tell us until you are blue in the face, but we are still going to be neurotic/nervous!

=) I guess that's the fun part!

Didnt mean to sound as terse as I did.

Of course you are all very nervous. I got one or two about this time last year. The rest came in February. So many I couldn't go to all of them.
 
No no, sorry, I wasn't commenting on your level of...terse-ness(?) just that everyone, friends who have been through this, chiefs, attendings, they all say the same thing: don't worry, February is the time when IV's get sent out. Nevertheless, I am still stressing! It's an interesting study in human psychology: logically I understand, but emotionally it doesn't translate! I guess I am human after all...hehehe
 
Agree with jdh1. Dont sweat over big or small names. The big centers are more research oriented and are best if you desire an academic career. For those wanting to master clinical skills and hoping to join private practice or community hospitals, the average programs in run down areas are the best. When I interviewed; it was clear from the discussion with fellows where they will end up based on what programs they belonged to. The guys at Yale could not stop talking about their mast cell research with Jack Elias for 20 months and barely meeting bronch requirements in 3 years whereas fellows at Montefiore had seen it all in terms of clinical stuff but hardly had done research.

May you match at the place you desire. Best wishes to everyone.

Interesting!! Any suggestions of places that have good balance?
 
Adding Mayo Clinic (Rochester) Critical Care Medicine

Pulmonary/Critical Care Programs

AECOM at Beth Israel (NY): cafed
Carillion Clinic: aryan3, PCC0810
Cleveland Clinic: MICU
East Carolina University: jrdagooc
Emory: drl1980, MICU
Indiana University: SIGA, jco
MUSC: Barny
Ohio State: redeemed, jco, subtle1epiphany
Oregon Health and Science University: cafed
St. Louis University: imeddoc, aryan3, Glacier
University of Cinncinati: Barny, MICU
University of Illinois at Chicago: Barny, NikitaPCCM
University of Minnesota: jco, aryan3
University of Rochester: jco, PCC0810
UT Southwestern: drl1980
Wake Forest University: jrdagooc
Washington University, St Louis: MICU
Winthrop Hospital: cafed, jrdagooc, PCC0810
Yale: jco, MICU

Critical Care Programs
Mayo Clinic Rochester: Barny
 
iu, winthrop, ecu, univ of vermont, carilion.

Does anyone know anything about the above programs? Any kind of information would be appreciated, e.g., clinical training vs research, malignancy of program, camaraderie, nurses in icu (helpful vs not helpful), area, etc.

Thanks.

PC
 
This is my observation from the few places I interviewed at.. I am sure there are many places that will provide you the balance you seek including places like UVa to Montefiore. The point I was trying to clarify is that most programs are decent (an not only the big names).It depends on what you want to do in future. Since I seek private practice/community hospital in future and am not at all interested in bench research, I preferred the hard core rough places that prepares to run a unit anywhere.

Interesting!! Any suggestions of places that have good balance?
 
I agree with Moozy to an extent. For those of you who are unsure where you want to practice or if you want to be in an academic practice or private practice you don't want to close any doors. I personally wanted the most recognized and prestigious program I could get just for this reason. Obviously if I felt they were malignant then I wouldnt go but since I have not had any research experience I decided to go to a place that would give me top notch experience and clinical training. Hopefully this pans out.

Ultimately the best program is the one you actually get into!!!!:D
 
I agree with Moozy to an extent. For those of you who are unsure where you want to practice or if you want to be in an academic practice or private practice you don't want to close any doors. I personally wanted the most recognized and prestigious program I could get just for this reason. Obviously if I felt they were malignant then I wouldnt go but since I have not had any research experience I decided to go to a place that would give me top notch experience and clinical training. Hopefully this pans out.

Ultimately the best program is the one you actually get into!!!!:D

I think most people know if they are interested in research or not by this time in the game
 
I think most people know if they are interested in research or not by this time in the game

I think they THINK they know, but I dont think they REALLY know. Most medstudents/residents have not REALLLY done research before they enter their fellowship research years (the 1-2 month research blocks in residency do not count, real research takes YEARS). Well, the MD/Ph.Ders know, i guess...
 
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