question about greys anatomy and ob/gyn

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Dr Shepard's wife (Addison?) on Grey's Anatomy is a surgeon in ob/gyn. I realize that the show is probably not terribly accurate, but does anyone have an idea of what a Dr in that specialty would do in real life? Also, would you do your residency in ob/gyn or in surgery? Thanks.

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I'm not 100% positive, but I think you would do a residency in OB/GYN and then do a fellowship in something like maternal/fetal care to deal with high risk pregnancies.
 
This sounds perverted, but I watched a video clip on CNN where they were talking about OB/GYNs performing vaginal rejuvenation surgery on women to tigthen their vaginas. So yea, if you're a OB/GYN surgeon, you'll probably get to do that...
 
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diosa428 said:
Dr Shepard's wife (Addison?) on Grey's Anatomy is a surgeon in ob/gyn. I realize that the show is probably not terribly accurate, but does anyone have an idea of what a Dr in that specialty would do in real life? Also, would you do your residency in ob/gyn or in surgery? Thanks.

I am not saying that an OB/GYN Surgery does not exist, but I do think that Grey's Anatomy has a few holes with respect to accurately depicting the responsibilities of a medical resident. First of all, they are referred to on the show as interns, yet they have already received their doctorates and still report to residents. They seem to follow around other doctors like little puppies, observing patient cases with hardly any responsibility of their own).

In conclusion, I would consider information seen on Grey's Anatomy about as accurate as high school gossip (ironically, the high school gossip aspect seems to be deeply rooted in the plot of this lovely program).

P.S. Sorry about the strong opinion if you actually like the show, I just hate conflama.
 
OB/Gyn surgery does exist, and I work with OB/Gyn surgeons on a regular basis. They mostly do hysterectomys and sphingooopherectomies, rectoceles, cystoceles, enteroceles, repair vaginal prolapses, and bladder surgeries. They're not totally connected with "delivering babies" in my experience, but more with women's reproductive organs post-menopause.

I also agree that Grey's Anatomy is not accurate in a lot of respects, but it is a good show for entertainment purposes only.
 
and it'll probably inspire thousands of kids to be pre-meds when they are 12 (and then communication majors)
 
chaeymaey said:
OB/Gyn surgery does exist, and I work with OB/Gyn surgeons on a regular basis. They mostly do hysterectomys and sphingooopherectomies, rectoceles, cystoceles, enteroceles, repair vaginal prolapses, and bladder surgeries. They're not totally connected with "delivering babies" in my experience, but more with women's reproductive organs post-menopause.

I also agree that Grey's Anatomy is not accurate in a lot of respects, but it is a good show for entertainment purposes only.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
 
My dad is an OB/GYN. He sees both patients in his office (gynecological exams/ checkups for pregnant women. etc) as well as doing surgeries in the OR (ie hysterectomy, c-section, tubal ligation). I think thats one really cool thing about OB/GYN-- you get to do both patient visits and surgeries. I also beleive the residency is in OB/GYN.
 
Ob/gyn blends internal medicine and surgery. Ob/gyns are trained in surgery as well, esp hysterectomies, tubal ligations, c-sections, lots of cancer surgeries, etc. There's a ton of procedures involved. Yes, it is accurate in that respect.
 
hahaha it's about time someone questioned exactly what the hell she does.
She came on to the show as a neonatologist but these days she just seems like an OB specialist... but of course this is a recurring theme across the show. After all, the Seattle Grace is run by Berke, Sheppards, Bailey, Webber, and five interns.

I still love the show :love:


by the way... anybody else disturbed by the fact that the show gives no regard to the death of the bomb squad guys? :confused:
 
Yeah, they made it seem like everyone got out ok...when they clearly didn't.
 
What can you really say about pink mist? He wasn't the focus of the show, therefore didn't matter more than Meredith showering and having a cut on her forehead.
 
hp85 said:
by the way... anybody else disturbed by the fact that the show gives no regard to the death of the bomb squad guys? :confused:

Um, yeah why were they all wearing those vests? It clearly didn't help when the bomb squad guy was vaporized.

Another thing that confused me about the whole ob/gyn surgery thing is that I was pretty sure that to do ob/gyn surgery you had to do an ob/gyn residency (as above posters have mentioned) but in one episode she definitely told Izzy that she had a talent for her (Addison's) field... Izzy is a surgery resident? Guess they're just a very multitalented surgical team.
 
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I do not want to start a flame war or anything, but my uncle who is a CT surgeon, laughs when he hears the words surgeon and OB/GYN in the same sentence.
 
diosa428 said:
Um, yeah why were they all wearing those vests? It clearly didn't help when the bomb squad guy was vaporized.

Another thing that confused me about the whole ob/gyn surgery thing is that I was pretty sure that to do ob/gyn surgery you had to do an ob/gyn residency (as above posters have mentioned) but in one episode she definitely told Izzy that she had a talent for her (Addison's) field... Izzy is a surgery resident? Guess they're just a very multitalented surgical team.
I'm thinking you could do surgical prelim before ob/gyn.
 
OB/GYN is a specialty that incorporates a LOT of surgery. OB/GYNs spend lots of time in the OR doing all types of gyn surgeries (hysterectomies, excision/debulking for all gyn cancers) and urogyn surgeries (mostly correcting incontinence), not to mention c-sections. The OB/GYNs were some of the coolest, most skillful surgeons I worked with in med-school, but surgeons really tend to have a HUGE attitude about OBs being called surgeons. No extra training needed in addition to OB/GYN residency for all these surgeries, but it is available with fellowships in GYN-onc and urogyn.
Interns, by the way, are fresh out of med school, are under the direct supervision of residents, and are mostly responsible for doing the stuff that no-one else wants to a.k.a "scut".
 
chaeymaey said:
OB/Gyn surgery does exist, and I work with OB/Gyn surgeons on a regular basis. They mostly do hysterectomys and sphingooopherectomies, rectoceles, cystoceles, enteroceles, repair vaginal prolapses, and bladder surgeries. They're not totally connected with "delivering babies" in my experience, but more with women's reproductive organs post-menopause.

I also agree that Grey's Anatomy is not accurate in a lot of respects, but it is a good show for entertainment purposes only.


yup...my sister is an OB/GYN (she attended UT-Houston for med school). She likes the fact that she kind of gets the best of both worlds (some surgery and some clinical).

She like the OB part of her job much more than the GYN....oh the horror stories she tells me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
for the trivia fans, ob/gyn is the only primary care specialty that is also considered to be a surgical specialty
 
MeowMix said:
for the trivia fans, ob/gyn is the only primary care specialty that is also considered to be a surgical specialty


Yeah, but somebody's uncle laughs when they hear that. Ha
 
Zoom-Zoom said:
Yeah, but somebody's uncle laughs when they hear that. Ha

OK guys, as a 4th year medical student matching in OBGYN, I can assure you all that it is a surgical specialty (and even the general surgeons will usually concede to that) that can be as surgical or as non-surgical as you want it to be (kind of like picking between say trauma surgery - very surgical - and transplant surgery - mostly medical management).
As far as the character on Grey's Anatomy, from what I can tell she's supposed to be an MFM (maternal-fetal medicine specialist, formerly called perinatologist).
Oh, and for those of you who don't think OBGYN is true surgery, if you do GYN oncology or Urogyn all you do is operate and see patients in clinic for pre/post-op visits.

Hope that helps.
 
One overriding statement before I make a few comments: that 2 hour Grey's Anatomy sucked. They were the only 2 shows I watched, and it will stay that way until the Earth is a cool, dark, lifeless ball. It was such a chick-flick show I couldn't stand it, and neither could my girlfriend. But I digress.

A) Interns DO have their MDs and DO report to residents, so I don't know why someone thought that was unusual.
B) Why the hell would jiggling the bazooka round set it off when the ambulance ride didn't?
C) Why the hell would you wear the chestpiece of a flak jacket and not a helmet or anything? What good does that do? OK, your head may be gone but at least you haveee a torso.
D) Did anyone else find it ironic that the guy from Early Edition was the guy that bought it? Did he not see this coming? Did someone steal the newspaper the day before?
E) The following dialogue must have occurred in a meeting room between the writers of the show:

Writer 1: OK, so the premise of the show is that they find a bomb in this guy in the OR.
Writer 2: BORING. That crap happens everyday. What else can we add for more drama?
W1: How about let's have one of the residents go into labor!
W2: Ooh ooh! And her husband can get into a car crash on the way to the hospital!
W3: ....And since he has to be in the hospital, we can put him in the room next to the bomb!
W1 and 2: Brilliant!
W1: OK, I'm still not feeling the drama. I gotta have more drama!
W2: Well, I suppose the chief could have a heart attack...
W1: A little vanilla, but I like it...
W3: What if 2 of the residents just stayed in the closet all day having sex while another one ran around not doing anything but looking lost?
W1: I'm not seeing how that adds to the drama...aww what the hell?
W2: Uh oh guys. I'm feeling something, something big. Wait for it, wait for it. OK follow me here: The surgeon operating on the pregnant resident's husband in the room next to the OR with the bomb is the husband of the OB/GYN of the pregnant resident, but he's really in love with the resident who sticks her hand inside the guy to make sure the bomb doesn't go off, and the surgeon operating on the guy with the bomb in him is tapping the resident who is now bagging said guy with bomb.
W1 and 3: Wow.
W1: My friend, we are in the presence of pure genius. <Kneels on ground and bows to W2>
W4: And then, an 18 wheeler crashes into the hospital and Bubonic plague-carrying rats jump out and start biting everyone!
W 1,2, and 3: Dude, that's not realistic AT ALL. Psssh.

End rant. :barf:

Go Scrubs. Even House.
 
Oh yeah, I forgot to add that the whole scene took place right on top of an oxygen supply line.

Oh man, you have no idea how much better I feel now that that's off my chest. So therapeutic...
 
WholeLottaGame7 said:
One overriding statement before I make a few comments: that 2 hour Grey's Anatomy sucked. They were the only 2 shows I watched, and it will stay that way until the Earth is a cool, dark, lifeless ball. It was such a chick-flick show I couldn't stand it, and neither could my girlfriend. But I digress.

A) Interns DO have their MDs and DO report to residents, so I don't know why someone thought that was unusual.
B) Why the hell would jiggling the bazooka round set it off when the ambulance ride didn't?
C) Why the hell would you wear the chestpiece of a flak jacket and not a helmet or anything? What good does that do? OK, your head may be gone but at least you haveee a torso.
D) Did anyone else find it ironic that the guy from Early Edition was the guy that bought it? Did he not see this coming? Did someone steal the newspaper the day before?
E) The following dialogue must have occurred in a meeting room between the writers of the show:

Writer 1: OK, so the premise of the show is that they find a bomb in this guy in the OR.
Writer 2: BORING. That crap happens everyday. What else can we add for more drama?
W1: How about let's have one of the residents go into labor!
W2: Ooh ooh! And her husband can get into a car crash on the way to the hospital!
W3: ....And since he has to be in the hospital, we can put him in the room next to the bomb!
W1 and 2: Brilliant!
W1: OK, I'm still not feeling the drama. I gotta have more drama!
W2: Well, I suppose the chief could have a heart attack...
W1: A little vanilla, but I like it...
W3: What if 2 of the residents just stayed in the closet all day having sex while another one ran around not doing anything but looking lost?
W1: I'm not seeing how that adds to the drama...aww what the hell?
W2: Uh oh guys. I'm feeling something, something big. Wait for it, wait for it. OK follow me here: The surgeon operating on the pregnant resident's husband in the room next to the OR with the bomb is the husband of the OB/GYN of the pregnant resident, but he's really in love with the resident who sticks her hand inside the guy to make sure the bomb doesn't go off, and the surgeon operating on the guy with the bomb in him is tapping the resident who is now bagging said guy with bomb.
W1 and 3: Wow.
W1: My friend, we are in the presence of pure genius. <Kneels on ground and bows to W2>
W4: And then, an 18 wheeler crashes into the hospital and Bubonic plague-carrying rats jump out and start biting everyone!
W 1,2, and 3: Dude, that's not realistic AT ALL. Psssh.

End rant. :barf:

Go Scrubs. Even House.


THATS HILARIOUS.... :laugh:
 
Ha ha, yeah whatever. GA still rules, still the best, most entertaining show on TV right now. :p You're just bitter. :D Imagine how boring a show would be if it was exactly like real life.
 
The two hour grey's anatomy hella pissed me off too. Just because it's sweeps week doesn't mean they have to imitate the writers from ER. The shows usually pretty awesome, and I'm still in love with george o'malley. My sunday was much better spent watching the olympics and the flying tomato.

Does anybody know if fetal and neonatal surgeons are trained as ob/gyns, or is it strictly surgery? Would that be what addison is?
 
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