Question about PBL especially at WVSOM

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Could someone tell me how PBL works, especially perhaps someone from WVSOM?

I read the website, but I wanted to know more about it.

Especially how the classes work, how long you spend in class vs time spent studying on your own. Also, Why PBL ?

What kind of learning style excels at PBL versus systems based?
 
I have almost the exact question. I originally posted this in the pre-osteo forum, but I think it might be better answered here.

I am hoping you guys will be able to help me. I am applying to LECOM-B, where they use PBL. When I first read about this, I liked the sound of it, but now I am starting to have my reservations.

I read on a thread in the pre-allo section about how PBL is not an effective way for students to learn. Does anyone agree with this, or disagree? If this method of learning is not effective, then it could change my decision to go there (if and when I am accepted).

If anyone who knows about PBL could respond, especially if there are any students who are currently in a PBL program or have graduated from a school that uses PBL, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance for your help!

sdh
 
hey, i'm in sbl at wvsom-- send a private message to Richie Truxillo, he'll be able to give you tons of info. good luck

-pete
 
Here's the OUCOM PBL website. Dr. Modrakowski left OUCOM to start the PBL program at WVSOM, so it should be similar. www.oucom.ohiou.edu/PCC. I hope this helps. I did the PCC at OUCOM and really loved it. I did great on my boards (always a concern of people considering PBL) and I acquired great clinical skills in my first two years. Good luck.
 
Hey gang, Richie here. I'm a member of PBL at WVSOM. It kicks butt and I love it. It's not pure PBL but actually a new "hybrid" program that improves on the original concept. Dr. Modrazkowski is the man! Definately one of the most laid-back yet intelligent people I've met in my pathway through life. He's the perfect guy to head up PBL.

The basic jist is that it is student directed learning based closely off of patient cases you are given. It is quite a departure from lecture based learning (Systems Based Learning). The fundamental difference between the two tracks is that in the SBL track, they bring everything together for you in the 2nd year with the "blocks" of systems (Aka Cardiovascular System, respiratory system, Urogenital system, etc...), in PBL you learn clinical correlates with every new concept you learn, however you are responsible for weaving your own tapestry of understanding regarding the interconnected disciplines. Also in PBL, you really have to be a team player. Our group has had a great deal of drama associated with one individual and it impacted our learning process for a good 2.5 weeks. However, the flip side of this is that we are learning the important life skill of learning to work with others who we may not see eye-to-eye with. With that said, in PBL, your character is molded by your interactions with others and vice-versa.

Decisions to make regarding doing PBL track:

If you are a gunner, you won't survive PBL, everyone will crush you in terms of understanding.
If you have trouble being motivated to study, you won't survive PBL, you'll be left behind.
If you have issues with time management, you won't survive PBL, it takes a balancing act or you go crazy.
If you cannot work well with others, you cannot do PBL, your teammates will outcast you and everyday will seem like an episode of "PBL Survivor" in your group.


If you have developed a basic "Critical Thinking" mentality, PBL is for you as it develops it further.
If you have an ability to see the "Big picture" behind concepts, PBL is for you as you'll not only be learning material but how to apply it.
If you are a highly motivated student, PBL is for you.

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One thing I would like to address though, I have no basic sciences background like many others in the program. I am excelling at PBL because you really start from the ground and build up to more complex subjects. It's kinda crazy, but once you start PBL, you'll start looking at EVERYTHING with regards to the PBL learning process. Why is this? PBL is all about one thing: ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS!

Learning the material is the easy part, it's asking the right questions about it that lets you put it all together that is the difficult part. The only way to improve on inquisitivity is to just continue asking questions.

My only concern about PBL is the social rift that exists between the SBL and PBL students. Alot of it is engraved due to the nature of the programs. However, I'm running for Student Body President and one of my platform issues is to find a way to bridge that gap. After all we're all aiming for the 3rd year, just taking different roads to get there.

Tas: lemme know what day your interview is on and tell Angie Bowyer or Carol or Donna in the admissions office that you want to speak with me regarding PBL. I'll be happy to speak with you for a bit. If ya cannot find me I can normally be found in the library at one of the two front tables. 😛

Hope this helps and good luck!

Regards,
Richie
 
I am also in PLB at WVSOM. Richie has covered it pretty well. Some things I would like to add...
I am having more fun learning in PLB than I have ever had learning... I know... I'm in med school, it's not supposed to be fun. But the point is that this learning system is truly empowering. We decide what we want to learn, when, to what level of understanding, etc. The motivation this creates in me is tremendous. Also, the accountability is a big motivator: three times a week I have to be prepared to discuss material that we as a group are studying. I am responsible to not only myself, but also my group members. No last minute cramming before a test. In fact, 40% of our grade comes from how our group facilitators rate our preparation, participation, critical thinking, group skills, etc. I feel like I am much more on track than I would have been in the SBL program.
Good luck to you in your application process...
 
How did you end up in the PBL track at WVSOM? And if someone is put in the SBL track - is there any chance of switching?

Thanks.
 
You have to apply to the PBL tract after you are accepted. You have to write an essay on why PBL is a good way for you to learn or something to that effect.
 
If you have been accepted and have made your deposit for the school, you can send a short letter to Dr. Modrzakowski telling him why you want to be in the PBL track and why you would be a good fit for the program.

If there are still seats available for the PBL class, then you can still switch. However, once the PBL roster is full, then you have to do SBL. There was a waiting list of about 10 people last year. Basically earlybird gets the worm in this case!

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Richie
 
This is from Dr. Modrzakowski, head of the PBL program at WVSOM:

We ask that applicants send an
essay, limited to 500 words, summarizing why they want to be in the
Problem Based Learning Curricular track. They are asked to explain why
they think they would be successful and what they hope to achieve by
participating in this learning track. If applicable, they are asked to
describe previous Problem Based Learning or similar learning
experiences. Generally this essay is supplied directly to me via email.
The PBL Student Selection Advisory Committee then reviews the applicants
file and essay and then informs the applicant if they are on the roster.
I hope that this information is helpful to you. Let me know if there is
anything else I can do to help you with your decision on curricular
tracks. I hope to see your essay soon!
 
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