I have two related questions:
1. What is the true unique contribution of a radonc that either hem/onc or rads couldn't do with a bit more training?
2. For this reason, I have heard vague talks about potentially combining the rad onc residency with hem/onc or with rads in the future...anyone know more about this?
My own thoughts and analysis from talking to others are as follows:
For one, the hem/onc's have the same understanding of clinical oncology as the rad oncs (both have mastery over the onc literature), and from what I've seen a good hem/onc knows when to refer a pt for radiation - by the time they get to the rad onc, they are mostly worked up fully so the radonc simply decided whether RT is necessary and where to treat. Second, this leads to the treatment planning aspect of rad onc, which relies heavily on looking at CTs/MRs/PETs to select structures to treat and spare. It seems that a radiologist would be better at this since that is their job, and they are the ones who are making the radiologic diagnosis to begin with - I would trust a radiologist over a rad onc anyday to find crucial lymph nodes that need to be in treated in the field. Radiologists have a great understanding of medicine and disease processes, which they often don't get as much credit for, so I think they'd be able to understand how to treat a given cancer - ie what fields to use. Finally, the treatment planning calculations are done by physicists/dosimetrists, which the rad onc then signs off on - this is a simplification, but true in many ways, it's not like the radoncs are doing IMRTs calculations or anything really technical. The question then that many have is what exactly the rad onc's true role is in all of this for the patient? What unique information or skill do they really bring to the table that someone else (hemonc or rads) couldn't do better with some extra training?
I argue (and so do others) that either the hemonc's (who know as much or more onc as the radonc) or the radiologists (who know the most about imaging, esp considering all treatment planning is heading towards using sophisticated cross sect imaging rather than the old days of plain film) could get extra training in radonc and do a better job, and also streamline the whole line of care for a patient.
Lastly, one day when chemo gets better, radiation may be less used, and there might not be a need for a separate profession. In that case, one attending has even told me that the rad oncs would prob have to do another residency in either hem/onc or rads anyway!
With all of this in mind, does anyone know when or if this combination will occur? Also, any general thoughts on the matter or issues I raised above? Thanks....
1. What is the true unique contribution of a radonc that either hem/onc or rads couldn't do with a bit more training?
2. For this reason, I have heard vague talks about potentially combining the rad onc residency with hem/onc or with rads in the future...anyone know more about this?
My own thoughts and analysis from talking to others are as follows:
For one, the hem/onc's have the same understanding of clinical oncology as the rad oncs (both have mastery over the onc literature), and from what I've seen a good hem/onc knows when to refer a pt for radiation - by the time they get to the rad onc, they are mostly worked up fully so the radonc simply decided whether RT is necessary and where to treat. Second, this leads to the treatment planning aspect of rad onc, which relies heavily on looking at CTs/MRs/PETs to select structures to treat and spare. It seems that a radiologist would be better at this since that is their job, and they are the ones who are making the radiologic diagnosis to begin with - I would trust a radiologist over a rad onc anyday to find crucial lymph nodes that need to be in treated in the field. Radiologists have a great understanding of medicine and disease processes, which they often don't get as much credit for, so I think they'd be able to understand how to treat a given cancer - ie what fields to use. Finally, the treatment planning calculations are done by physicists/dosimetrists, which the rad onc then signs off on - this is a simplification, but true in many ways, it's not like the radoncs are doing IMRTs calculations or anything really technical. The question then that many have is what exactly the rad onc's true role is in all of this for the patient? What unique information or skill do they really bring to the table that someone else (hemonc or rads) couldn't do better with some extra training?
I argue (and so do others) that either the hemonc's (who know as much or more onc as the radonc) or the radiologists (who know the most about imaging, esp considering all treatment planning is heading towards using sophisticated cross sect imaging rather than the old days of plain film) could get extra training in radonc and do a better job, and also streamline the whole line of care for a patient.
Lastly, one day when chemo gets better, radiation may be less used, and there might not be a need for a separate profession. In that case, one attending has even told me that the rad oncs would prob have to do another residency in either hem/onc or rads anyway!
With all of this in mind, does anyone know when or if this combination will occur? Also, any general thoughts on the matter or issues I raised above? Thanks....