Rads: who knows how the job market will be in 6-7 years, AI, teleradiology
Anesthesia: cRNAs, machines (Watson)
Which do you think is more vulnerable? Why?
Anesthesia: cRNAs, machines (Watson)
Which do you think is more vulnerable? Why?
There was a guy in the other thread that said rads will be obliterated in 5 years. Even now they said, AI is apparently already diagnosing things at rates vastly superior to radiologists.
currently deciding between these 2. if you were a M4 in 2019, would you still choose radiology all over again?I guarantee you radiology will be thriving after 5 yrs. 20 yrs from now might be quite different. Not sure AI will be able to handle lung nodules as well as a radiologist. I think radiology has more to fear from outsourcing. Anesthesiology, like all of medicine has mid level competetion. Given a choice, I believe patients will choose to have a physician at the head of the table as opposed to a nurse or anesthesia tech.
Very cerebral and very lonely. Plus sitting all day is a health hazardA lot of people think radiologists just look at images and spit out findings. Radiology is a lot more complex than that. We are far from AI being able to interpret a study to produce a full report autonomously without oversight. Most of the people perpetuating this myth are techies/data scientists/other medical specialists who have no idea what radiology is about. Even if we had autonomous AI, it would take years for it to be accepted from a regulation perspective. For example, a cardiologist needs to sign off on every EKG despite the available crappy "AI interpretation." And an EKG is a million times more simple than a portable chest xray...
Currently, there are a several simple AI algorithms that are being tested at a few institutions. These algorithms pertain to very mundane, basic tasks that a radiologist would gladly give up to improve efficiency. Tasks including pulmonary nodule followup, mass measurements, vessel measurements, etc. Nothing remotely close to feeding a computer images and getting "Impression: Acute Non-perforated Appendicitis" reply in a few milliseconds.
Again, non-radiologists tend to have an over-simplistic view of radiology. Radiology is one of the most complex fields in medicine. If we ever reach a point where radiology is replaced by AI, then all nonsurgical fields (excluding maybe pysch) will also be wiped out as well.
As for you question, other than the cool/chill personalities, radiology and anesthesiology are completely different; one is very hands on while the other is very cerebral. Choose your specialty based on what you'll enjoy doing rather then the expected job market. Nobody can predict what will happen in 7 years.
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Standing desks and this a reading room not solitary confinement. jeez, have any of these people even been down to radiology dept???Very cerebral and very lonely. Plus sitting all day is a health hazard
Very cerebral and very lonely. Plus sitting all day is a health hazard
MANY radiologists do not work in a boiler room environment, especially at outpatient centers where they work in cubicles. With teleradiography, groups often get spread out and only a handful of radiologist are at the hospital. Plus, a physician, (radiologist) has to be on site for any injections at the outpatient centers. Lastly, hardly anyone troops down to radiology anymore to review images. Hence my "lonley" remark, unless you count tumor board.Standing desks and this a reading room not solitary confinement. jeez, have any of these people even been down to radiology dept???
Yeah I will never understand the people that see sitting all day as an issue. Standing desks have been continually increasing in popularity for like over 5 years now. Pretty sure you can by a desk addon too for around $100 that just goes on a deskStanding desks and this a reading room not solitary confinement. jeez, have any of these people even been down to radiology dept???
Yes, and those docs are on the phone or in contact with people if they want to be. Like I said, they are not sitting in silence with everyone shunning them lol. People who are doing so generally choose to do so. If an individual does telerads and complains about lack of interaction I don't really have anything to say other than why did they do that to themselves?MANY radiologists do not work in a boiler room environment, especially at outpatient centers where they work in cubicles. With teleradiography, groups often get spread out and only a handful of radiologist are at the hospital. Plus, a physician, (radiologist) has to be on site for any injections at the outpatient centers. Lastly, hardly anyone troops down to radiology anymore to review images. Hence my "lonley" remark, unless you count tumor board.
Very cerebral and very lonely. Plus sitting all day is a health hazard
I never said boring, reading 150 studies a day is far from boring and is stressful due to productivity clauses. The healing from time off only lasts a few days at that pace. You want to exercise? Better get up at 0430 to get it in. You probably dont remember when the teaching service would all march down to radiology to review images with the experts. Anesthesia has more social interaction with peers and patients. But, things change. My guide in Beijing said "you get used to the pond you swim in" I would consider that amount of peer and patient contact unsatisfying .Loneliness/boredom is the last thing you'll be worried about as a radiologist. Most radiologists prefer to have minimal contact with patients and staff. We enjoy having an occasional interesting consult from a physician, but too many disruptions can kill your efficiency and make your job a lot more stressful. Stress can lead to burnout. Admittedly, burnout is higher than average in radiology.
Most radiology reading stations are adjustable and seats have become very ergonomic. If you want to read while standing you can. If you want to read with the lights on you can. Anecdotally, most of the radiologists I work with are relatively active and healthy. They also get considerable time off; the average private practice radiologist gets 10-12 weeks off a year. A lot of nighthawk positions are on a 1 week on, 2 weeks off model (you only work 17 weeks a year) making 400K+. So if you pace yourself and learn to deal with the stress, you'll be compensated well and given ample time to de-stress.
I never said boring, reading 150 studies a day is far from boring and is stressful due to productivity clauses. The healing from time off only lasts a few days at that pace. You want to exercise? Better get up at 0430 to get it in. You probably dont remember when the teaching service would all march down to radiology to review images with the experts. Anesthesia has more social interaction with peers and patients. But, things change. My guide in Beijing said "you get used to the pond you swim in" I would consider that amount of peer and patient contact unsatisfying .
There was a guy in the other thread that said rads will be obliterated in 5 years. Even now they said, AI is apparently already diagnosing things at rates vastly superior to radiologists.
OP you shouldn’t go into anything. You’ve made multiple threads like this asking the same questions over and over about the same 2-4 fields. No matter what you go into, you’ll eventually have to make decisions about stuff.
If you’re looking for permanently good job outlook, surgery or IM sub specialties is the way to go.