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So I log onto my brother-in-law's laptop and his homepage is Yahoo. The first news story on the front page is about those infamous college rankings.
Link to story on Yahoo
And so I thought about these forums. Every now and then, someone goes and decides to ask for or, worse, tries themself to list the top pharmacy schools in the country. There isn't a person or organization in the country, let alone a poster on these forums, who is qualified enough to honestly give an objective opinion on every pharmacy school in country. I'd be surprised if any of you could honestly be able to rate two schools, because, as a person who has been in the system since August 2003, I sure as hell can't. I can rate WVU, but I would feel very uncomfortable rating any other school - even though I have worked closely with Pitt and Duquesne students, as well as have worked with Kentucky and Ohio State graduates, among other schools.
As many of us know, there is this organization that actually tries to rate the pharmacy schools with this system that uses opinions of faculty at the differing schools and research money as the basis of rating schools.
Does anyone else see how patently ******ed this is? First of, rating the PharmD program on how much cash the faculty gets for figuring out what CYP 3A4 does to patients with ED is stupid. That's not even debatable in my mind.
But the other half is where the faux-credibility comes in. Ask collegues to rate each other. Sound nice, huh? But I and, apparently, the professors above, think this is equally as silly. How the hell can a professor at, say, USC's pharmacy school accurately rate the quality of pharmacy education at, say, Ohio State or VCU? How intimately do they know the abilities of a faculty thousands of miles away? Hell, I can't even tell you how well Bob at CVS down the street does as a pharmacist. How intimately do they know the intricacies of each individual ciriculum at any other school? I'd be surprised if the dean at my school knows my own school's cirriculum. Being that all schools conform to the accredidation standards of the ACPE, can there even be that much of a difference between individual schools? I know none of you can answer these questions, so I'm not even sure why I'm hitting shift+backslash so much. I digress.
Nonetheless, finally, a group of colleges are standing up to the ridiculous "ratings" that the US News and World Report throws together annually. They are refusing to contribute to something they have no way of honestly and objectively contributing to - rating other colleges.
Honestly - any time some guy tells you they go to the #4 or whatever pharmacy school in the country is a person that's been lied to. Kids going to San Fran? Florida? Kentucky? All those other highly touted schools - guess what, you aren't really going to one of the top schools in the country. Well, you might be, hell I don't know, but my point is that nobody knows. Unless there is a committee formed that compares RESULTS objectively (that would be NAPLEX scores, success in residency, how well they succeed in jobs post-graduation, etc.) for every single damned school in the nation, these rankings are just a magazine that is blowing smoke up everyone's collective asses.
Thankfully nobody in the real world pays attention to these pharmacy school rankings so I have nothing to worry about. I have nothing against UCSF, UK, UF, or any other school, nor do hate that my school isn't in that top 25. I honestly don't care because I know better. It's just that the kids that read these prepharmacy forums are constantly getting laughably inaccurate advice, arbitrarily contrived advise, or advice that is wrongly extrapolated to a nationwide audience from people that too frequently have no idea what they are talking about. And...yeah...this is one of those cases.
I don't want a kid from Buffalo, NY to refuse seeking an education at SUNY-Buffalo while trying to get in as an out-of-state student at some California school because of some stupid, hack magazine.
Rant over.
Link to story on Yahoo
And so I thought about these forums. Every now and then, someone goes and decides to ask for or, worse, tries themself to list the top pharmacy schools in the country. There isn't a person or organization in the country, let alone a poster on these forums, who is qualified enough to honestly give an objective opinion on every pharmacy school in country. I'd be surprised if any of you could honestly be able to rate two schools, because, as a person who has been in the system since August 2003, I sure as hell can't. I can rate WVU, but I would feel very uncomfortable rating any other school - even though I have worked closely with Pitt and Duquesne students, as well as have worked with Kentucky and Ohio State graduates, among other schools.
As many of us know, there is this organization that actually tries to rate the pharmacy schools with this system that uses opinions of faculty at the differing schools and research money as the basis of rating schools.
Does anyone else see how patently ******ed this is? First of, rating the PharmD program on how much cash the faculty gets for figuring out what CYP 3A4 does to patients with ED is stupid. That's not even debatable in my mind.
But the other half is where the faux-credibility comes in. Ask collegues to rate each other. Sound nice, huh? But I and, apparently, the professors above, think this is equally as silly. How the hell can a professor at, say, USC's pharmacy school accurately rate the quality of pharmacy education at, say, Ohio State or VCU? How intimately do they know the abilities of a faculty thousands of miles away? Hell, I can't even tell you how well Bob at CVS down the street does as a pharmacist. How intimately do they know the intricacies of each individual ciriculum at any other school? I'd be surprised if the dean at my school knows my own school's cirriculum. Being that all schools conform to the accredidation standards of the ACPE, can there even be that much of a difference between individual schools? I know none of you can answer these questions, so I'm not even sure why I'm hitting shift+backslash so much. I digress.
Nonetheless, finally, a group of colleges are standing up to the ridiculous "ratings" that the US News and World Report throws together annually. They are refusing to contribute to something they have no way of honestly and objectively contributing to - rating other colleges.
A dozen college presidents are setting the stage for what they hope will become a wide-scale rebellion against the annual college rankings compiled by U.S. News & World Report. In a letter dated May 5, the presidents are urging their colleagues at an estimated 1,000 liberal-arts schools to refuse to participate in a portion of the survey in which they're asked to rate other schools. The letter calls the survey "misleading" and says it does little to serve prospective students.
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The section of the U.S. News survey the presidents are objecting to is known as the "peer-assessment" portion. This section--which comprises 25% of the score used to devise the rankings--asks college presidents, provosts, and deans to evaluate other peer schools' performance and strengths. It's a task that makes some academic leaders uncomfortable.
Honestly - any time some guy tells you they go to the #4 or whatever pharmacy school in the country is a person that's been lied to. Kids going to San Fran? Florida? Kentucky? All those other highly touted schools - guess what, you aren't really going to one of the top schools in the country. Well, you might be, hell I don't know, but my point is that nobody knows. Unless there is a committee formed that compares RESULTS objectively (that would be NAPLEX scores, success in residency, how well they succeed in jobs post-graduation, etc.) for every single damned school in the nation, these rankings are just a magazine that is blowing smoke up everyone's collective asses.
Thankfully nobody in the real world pays attention to these pharmacy school rankings so I have nothing to worry about. I have nothing against UCSF, UK, UF, or any other school, nor do hate that my school isn't in that top 25. I honestly don't care because I know better. It's just that the kids that read these prepharmacy forums are constantly getting laughably inaccurate advice, arbitrarily contrived advise, or advice that is wrongly extrapolated to a nationwide audience from people that too frequently have no idea what they are talking about. And...yeah...this is one of those cases.
I don't want a kid from Buffalo, NY to refuse seeking an education at SUNY-Buffalo while trying to get in as an out-of-state student at some California school because of some stupid, hack magazine.
Rant over.