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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Sammmeyeam, May 5, 2002.

  1. Sammmeyeam

    Sammmeyeam Senior Member
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    Dermatology Research
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-CMH

    Diagnostic Radiology
    Indiana Univ., Indianapolis
    Kaiser Permanente, Los Angeles
    St. Luke's Med. Ctr., Milwaukee

    Emergency Medicine
    Adventist Christ Hosp., Oak Lawn, Ill.
    Beth Israel-Deaconess, Boston
    Beth Israel Med. Ctr., New York
    Darnall Army Hosp., Ft. Hood, Texas
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-NMH
    Univ. of Calif., Davis (2)
    Univ. of Chicago
    Univ. of Mich., Ann Arbor (2)
    Univ. of Texas, Dallas

    Family Medicine
    Camp Pendleton (Calif.) Navy
    Kaiser Permanente, Woodland Hills, Calif.
    MacNeal Hosp., Berwyn, Ill.
    Ravenswood Hosp., Chicago
    Univ. of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

    Health Management Consulting (2)

    Internal Medicine
    Allegheny General Hosp., Pittsburgh
    Alton Ochsner Clinic, New Orleans
    Beth Israel Med. Ctr., New York
    Catholic Health Partners, Chicago
    Cedars-Sinai Med. Ctr., Los Angeles
    Harbor-Univ. of Calif., Torrance
    Henry Ford Hosp., Detroit
    Johns Hopkins-Sinai, Baltimore
    Kaiser Permanente, Oakland, Calif.
    Kaiser Permanente, Santa Clara, Calif.
    Loma Linda (Calif.) Univ.
    Louis Weiss Hosp., Chicago
    Mass. General Hosp., Boston
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-ENH (7)
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-NMH (17)
    Presbyterian Hosp.-Cornell, New York
    Rush-Pres.-St. Luke's, Chicago (2)
    Santa Clara Valley, San Jose, Calif.
    Stanford (Calif.) Univ.
    St. Mary's Med. Ctr., San Francisco
    Univ. Hosps. of Cleveland
    Univ. of Calif., Irvine
    Univ. of Calif., Los Angeles
    Univ. of Calif., San Francisco
    Univ. of Cincinnati
    Univ. of Massachusetts, Worcester (2)
    Univ. of Minnesota, Minneapolis
    Univ. of Texas, Houston
    Univ. of Utah, Salt Lake City
    Univ. of Virginia, Charlottesville (2)
    Virginia Mason Hosp., Seattle
    Yale-New Haven (Conn.) Hosp.

    Neurological Surgery
    Univ. of Calif., Los Angeles

    Obstetrics and Gynecology
    Emory Univ., Atlanta (2)
    Indiana Univ., Indianapolis
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-NMH
    New York Univ., New York
    Univ. Health Ctr. of Pittsburgh

    Orthopaedic Surgery
    Henry Ford Hosp., Detroit
    Lenox Hill Hosp., New York
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-NMH (3)
    Rush-Pres.-St. Luke's, Chicago
    Univ. Health Ctr. of Pittsburgh
    Univ. Hosps of Cleveland

    Other (5)

    Pathology
    Stanford (Calif.) Univ.

    Pediatrics
    Children's Hosp., Oakland, Calif.
    Children's Nat'l. Med. Ctr., Washington (2)
    Duke Univ., Durham, N.C.
    Kaiser Permanente, Oakland, Calif.
    Loyola Univ. Med. Ctr., Maywood, Ill. (2)
    Lutheran General Hosp., Park Ridge, Ill.
    McGaw Med Ctr.-CMH (4)
    North Shore Univ. Hosp., Manhasset, N.Y.
    Rush-Pres.-St. Luke's, Chicago
    Stanford (Calif.) Univ.
    Texas A&M Univ., Temple
    Univ. Health Ctr. of Pittsburgh
    Univ Hosps. of Cleveland (2)
    Univ. of Ariz., Tucson
    Univ. of Calif., Los Angeles
    Univ. of Chicago
    Univ. of Cincinnati
    Univ. of Minnesota, Minneapolis

    Psychiatry
    Harvard Longwood, Boston
    McGaw Med Ctr.-NMH
    Stanford (Calif.) Univ.

    Research
    National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Md.
    Undesignated (2)

    Surgery
    Case Western Reserve Univ., Cleveland
    Johns Hopkins Univ., Baltimore
    Loma Linda (Calif.) Univ.
    Mayo Clinic, Jacksonville, Fla.
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-NMH (3)
    Med. Coll. of Wisconsin, Milwaukee (2)
    Michigan State Univ., East Lansing
    Mt. Carmel Health, Columbus, Ohio
    Mt. Sinai Hosp., New York
    Presbyterian Hosp.-Cornell, New York
    Rush-Pres.-St. Luke's, Chicago (2)
    SUNY Health Sci. Ctr., Brooklyn
    Univ. of Calif., Davis
    Univ. of Calif., San Francisco
    Univ. of Kansas, Kansas City
    Univ. of Massachusetts, Worcester
    Univ. of Minnesota, Minneapolis
    Univ. of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia
    Wm. Beaumont Hosp., Royal Oak, Mich.

    Transitional
    Catholic Health Partners, Chicago
    MacNeal Memorial Hosp., Berwyn, Ill.
    McGaw Med. Ctr.-ENH (2)
    St. Vincent's Hosp., New York (2)
    West Suburban Hosp., Oak Park, Ill.
    Western Penn. Hosp., Pittsburgh

    Urology
    Baylor Coll. of Medicine, Houston
    Univ. of Ariz., Tucson
    Univ. of Calif., Los Angeles
     
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  3. Ratty

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    You can't possibly "rate" a match list. Those matches could represent a student's 1st choice, 2nd choice, 5th choice, or whatever. A school could push their students to "aim low," thus ensuring a higher percentage of matching with a first choice. Or a school could push their students to "aim high," which could lead to lower choices, but at least giving it a shot. It is impossible to guage anything from a rank list.

    This is obviously Northwestern's match list :)
     
  4. Sammmeyeam

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    heh.... smartass
     
  5. Scooby Doo

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    I don't know why people care about the match list...if you are a good student, you'll do fine wherever. There are some advantages...if you must go to mass gen then go to harvard or something. To me, that match list is nothing. But of course, UCIrvine's match list looks much more impressive to me b/c everyone matches in Cali.
     
  6. Kazzar

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    It's a wonderful match list! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  7. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
    <strong>I don't know why people care about the match list...if you are a good student, you'll do fine wherever. There are some advantages...if you must go to mass gen then go to harvard or something. To me, that match list is nothing. But of course, UCIrvine's match list looks much more impressive to me b/c everyone matches in Cali.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yah I was damned impressed with that too...what's up with that!? no wonder why everyone wants to be in irvine....
     
  8. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ratty:
    <strong>You can't possibly "rate" a match list. Those matches could represent a student's 1st choice, 2nd choice, 5th choice, or whatever. A school could push their students to "aim low," thus ensuring a higher percentage of matching with a first choice. Or a school could push their students to "aim high," which could lead to lower choices, but at least giving it a shot. It is impossible to guage anything from a rank list.

    This is obviously Northwestern's match list :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">DANG ur an anthesiologist at pritzker....WOWZIE....and ur reply was so kewl..I never thought about it that way!? but come on, schools really cant FORCE u to aim low, to get a higher match list, can they?!

    ehem....can u give some tips on med school to me? I'm kind of thinking about anthesiology...but I heard u get a lot of lawsuits is that true?
     
  9. Jalby

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    I personally give this match list a 54.6.
     
  10. vyc

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    personally, i'm not that impressed with it.
    it's all right.
     
  11. Jalby

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    Now that I had a good look at it, it's not that great. I think I would consider SC's better. They had more big name hospitals on their list, but also more lessnamed hospitals.
     
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    This is definitely not what I expected from NU's matchlist. No offense, but for a school with a reputation of Northwestern's, I expected a lot more. Only 1 Derm and 3 Rads matches? I didn't see any Optho or ENT matches. Seems like Ortho is the only competitive specialty they were representin' in. Weird.
     
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    Northwestern's list improved this year. The 2002 list can be found here: <a href="http://www.infoplex.nwu.edu/class/alumni/match/2002match.html" target="_blank">http://www.infoplex.nwu.edu/class/alumni/match/2002match.html</a> They have 12 people in Radiology, 12 in Ortho, 6 in Optho, 3 in ENT, 3 in derm, etc. Not bad. I have talked to a few NU students who say that many of the students just aren't interested in dermatology. I think the EM match is especially impressive, but you have to know that some of the best programs in EM (like Maricopa or Hennepin) don't necessarily have big school names attached.
     
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    This reply is for WatchaMaCallit-

    A school can't necessarily "force" you into doing anything when it comes to making your final rank list. However, when you seek the advice of your Dean and/or Advisor, some may wrongfully either imply or tell you not to aim high because (a) you might end up disappointed (b) by "ensuring" your 1st choice, you will help them in the "how many of our students got their 1st choice" statistic they like to brag about to interested pre-meds. My school did not. They seem to have encouraged everyone to put their dream programs at the top. As a result, some may have gotten even their 4th choice. But, at least they gave it a shot. Just my two cents.

    Also, the distribution of particular specialties on a particular match list does not in anyway reflect on the how good a particular medical school does in the match. It simply reflects the interests of those members of that graduating class. For example, if you only see 1 person going into Dermatology, the only conclusion that you can reliably make is that _one_ person was interested in Derm. You cannot deduce that 15 people wanted it and were rejected.

    This is why looking at match lists is a poor way of comparing medical schools, simply because the matches represent the specialties, locations, and hospitals that the students themselves wanted. Not everyone wants to go to Harvard, so just because it ain't on some random medical school's list does not mean that you couldn't go there.

    If you have any questions about anesthesia or anything else, you can email me directly at [email protected]
     
  15. Nuclearrabbit

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    I agree, the 2002 match list is stronger than the previous year.

    The match list of a university can give you an IDEA of how good a school is, but it shouldn't be the primary criteria to evaluate a medical school.
    Every class is going to be different, each year will vary in talent, effort, board scores, and most importantly (what specialty they desire to pursue).
    Perhaps looking at SEVERAL years of a schools match list will give a better idea of how a school does in the match.
    Northwestern is a GREAT school, don't second guess that fact because you didn't see alot of matches in a particular specialty.
    And even then, matching 12 in ortho in one year is a tremendous feat,... i'd say thats several times more than most schools. This years match was amazingly good at NUMS.
    Ultimately, it's what you make out of your education thats going to matter. Who cares where your classmates go, care about where YOU go.

    Hope to see you at NUMS, sam.
     
  16. here u go mister sami :D

    I thought this would be helpful....

    <a href="http://www.mcwmd.com/a/matchlist.htm" target="_blank">MatchList for all the Schools</a>

    I must say UCSD WAS DAMN Impressive....I hope you get ur first choice bro...u deserve it!

    <a href="http://medschool.ucsd.edu/Catalog/126.html" target="_blank">UCSD's Matchlist</a>
     
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    I'll agree that NU's 2002 Match List is much stronger than the one posted on this thread. It's funny, coz I clicked on that link, and it turns out that I found a guy I actually know on the 2002 match list. I forgot he went to NU for med school. I have no doubt NU is a great school, I just found it weird that last year's match list didn't seem as strong as the school does. Match lists definitely vary from year to year. I know Miami's match list from a few years back had 8, yes 8 people, match into DERM! Of course, like others have stated, the variation is prolly moreso due to the interests of the class than anything else.
     

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