• SDN Site Updates

    Hey everyone! The site will be down for approximately 2 hours on Thursday, August 5th for site updates.

kevinm

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Apr 16, 2008
48
1
Status (Visible)
  1. Pre-Medical
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam on these forums, but I have a couple side questions that do not seem to have been addressed.

It's pretty clear from previous discussions that community colleges have a stigma attached to them...whether it's deserved is neither here nor there. My particular issue is that I'm far from the traditional pre-med... I'm majoring in electrical engineering and biomedical engineering. I have credit for chem 1 and 2- I took a chemistry class for engineers that was two semesters of gen chem in one.. however, I still need to take general chemistry 2 to satisfy the "year of general chemistry" requirement. Then comes the biology requirement... sadly to say, gen biology 1 at my university is a complete and utter joke. The community college nearby offers a much more rigorous program. Finally, organic chemistry. My plan was to take organic chemistry 1 & 2 over the summer (6 weeks for each).

So I'm left with three choices:
A. Take all four courses at the community college for a reasonable price
B. Take general biology 1 and general chemistry 2 at the community college (for a reasonable price) and organic chemistry at my college (for an egregious price)
C. Take all the courses at my college at the expense of delaying medical school by a year (A CPA would have to run the numbers, but deferring by a year costs a lot)

It's just that my particular major and my particular academic interests have precluded me from taking these classes (schedule conflicts and the like).

I apologize to rehash the debate, but my question comes down to this: will I be at a disadvantage (to any degree) because I took four of the pre-reqs at a community college? This is a numbers game, and when we're fighting for every fraction of a percent of competitiveness, a slight disadvantage can prove very costly.
 

LandSpeed

Can you dig it?
10+ Year Member
Oct 28, 2007
62
0
Northern California
Status (Visible)
  1. Pre-Medical
It's fair to say that your academic ability has been demonstrated in classes you've taken for your major (eg actual hard classes, not frilly bio stuff) at the university level, so don't worry about some pissy adcom thumbing his nose at Chem 1B taken at your local CC.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam on these forums, but I have a couple side questions that do not seem to have been addressed.

It's pretty clear from previous discussions that community colleges have a stigma attached to them...whether it's deserved is neither here nor there. My particular issue is that I'm far from the traditional pre-med... I'm majoring in electrical engineering and biomedical engineering. I have credit for chem 1 and 2- I took a chemistry class for engineers that was two semesters of gen chem in one.. however, I still need to take general chemistry 2 to satisfy the "year of general chemistry" requirement. Then comes the biology requirement... sadly to say, gen biology 1 at my university is a complete and utter joke. The community college nearby offers a much more rigorous program. Finally, organic chemistry. My plan was to take organic chemistry 1 & 2 over the summer (6 weeks for each).

So I'm left with three choices:
A. Take all four courses at the community college for a reasonable price
B. Take general biology 1 and general chemistry 2 at the community college (for a reasonable price) and organic chemistry at my college (for an egregious price)
C. Take all the courses at my college at the expense of delaying medical school by a year (A CPA would have to run the numbers, but deferring by a year costs a lot)

It's just that my particular major and my particular academic interests have precluded me from taking these classes (schedule conflicts and the like).

I apologize to rehash the debate, but my question comes down to this: will I be at a disadvantage (to any degree) because I took four of the pre-reqs at a community college? This is a numbers game, and when we're fighting for every fraction of a percent of competitiveness, a slight disadvantage can prove very costly.
 

sgglaze

New Member
10+ Year Member
5+ Year Member
Aug 23, 2005
145
0
Status (Visible)
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam on these forums, but I have a couple side questions that do not seem to have been addressed.

It's pretty clear from previous discussions that community colleges have a stigma attached to them...whether it's deserved is neither here nor there. My particular issue is that I'm far from the traditional pre-med... I'm majoring in electrical engineering and biomedical engineering. I have credit for chem 1 and 2- I took a chemistry class for engineers that was two semesters of gen chem in one.. however, I still need to take general chemistry 2 to satisfy the "year of general chemistry" requirement. Then comes the biology requirement... sadly to say, gen biology 1 at my university is a complete and utter joke. The community college nearby offers a much more rigorous program. Finally, organic chemistry. My plan was to take organic chemistry 1 & 2 over the summer (6 weeks for each).

So I'm left with three choices:
A. Take all four courses at the community college for a reasonable price
B. Take general biology 1 and general chemistry 2 at the community college (for a reasonable price) and organic chemistry at my college (for an egregious price)
C. Take all the courses at my college at the expense of delaying medical school by a year (A CPA would have to run the numbers, but deferring by a year costs a lot)

It's just that my particular major and my particular academic interests have precluded me from taking these classes (schedule conflicts and the like).

I apologize to rehash the debate, but my question comes down to this: will I be at a disadvantage (to any degree) because I took four of the pre-reqs at a community college? This is a numbers game, and when we're fighting for every fraction of a percent of competitiveness, a slight disadvantage can prove very costly.


Don't take prereqs at a community college. While the above poster is correct, you've demonstrated your ability to succeed in rigorous coursework, I would not count on the ADCOMS being that discerning during pre-interview examinations of your file.

When they look through files they are looking for reasons to disqualify you not reasons to accept you. Don't give them any. Take your prereqs at a 4 year university regardless of whether or not you personally know the community college to be more rigorous.
 
About the Ads

BEMD

Full Member
10+ Year Member
7+ Year Member
Sep 29, 2006
133
0
Status (Visible)
  1. Medical Student
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam on these forums, but I have a couple side questions that do not seem to have been addressed.

It's pretty clear from previous discussions that community colleges have a stigma attached to them...whether it's deserved is neither here nor there. My particular issue is that I'm far from the traditional pre-med... I'm majoring in electrical engineering and biomedical engineering. I have credit for chem 1 and 2- I took a chemistry class for engineers that was two semesters of gen chem in one.. however, I still need to take general chemistry 2 to satisfy the "year of general chemistry" requirement. Then comes the biology requirement... sadly to say, gen biology 1 at my university is a complete and utter joke. The community college nearby offers a much more rigorous program. Finally, organic chemistry. My plan was to take organic chemistry 1 & 2 over the summer (6 weeks for each).

So I'm left with three choices:
A. Take all four courses at the community college for a reasonable price
B. Take general biology 1 and general chemistry 2 at the community college (for a reasonable price) and organic chemistry at my college (for an egregious price)
C. Take all the courses at my college at the expense of delaying medical school by a year (A CPA would have to run the numbers, but deferring by a year costs a lot)

It's just that my particular major and my particular academic interests have precluded me from taking these classes (schedule conflicts and the like).

I apologize to rehash the debate, but my question comes down to this: will I be at a disadvantage (to any degree) because I took four of the pre-reqs at a community college? This is a numbers game, and when we're fighting for every fraction of a percent of competitiveness, a slight disadvantage can prove very costly.

I would recommend taking them at your college, or another university. I had the same problem when I was in undergrad. I spoke with the admissions advisers at a couple of medical schools and they all said to take the classes at a 4 year school. :) Good luck.
 

edfig99

Full Member
15+ Year Member
Feb 26, 2003
688
1
NYC
Status (Visible)
  1. Attending Physician
  2. Academic Administration
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam on these forums, but I have a couple side questions that do not seem to have been addressed.

It's pretty clear from previous discussions that community colleges have a stigma attached to them...whether it's deserved is neither here nor there. My particular issue is that I'm far from the traditional pre-med... I'm majoring in electrical engineering and biomedical engineering. I have credit for chem 1 and 2- I took a chemistry class for engineers that was two semesters of gen chem in one.. however, I still need to take general chemistry 2 to satisfy the "year of general chemistry" requirement. Then comes the biology requirement... sadly to say, gen biology 1 at my university is a complete and utter joke. The community college nearby offers a much more rigorous program. Finally, organic chemistry. My plan was to take organic chemistry 1 & 2 over the summer (6 weeks for each).

So I'm left with three choices:
A. Take all four courses at the community college for a reasonable price
B. Take general biology 1 and general chemistry 2 at the community college (for a reasonable price) and organic chemistry at my college (for an egregious price)
C. Take all the courses at my college at the expense of delaying medical school by a year (A CPA would have to run the numbers, but deferring by a year costs a lot)

It's just that my particular major and my particular academic interests have precluded me from taking these classes (schedule conflicts and the like).

I apologize to rehash the debate, but my question comes down to this: will I be at a disadvantage (to any degree) because I took four of the pre-reqs at a community college? This is a numbers game, and when we're fighting for every fraction of a percent of competitiveness, a slight disadvantage can prove very costly.


In my opinion you'd be at a disadvantage of doing all 4 pre-reqs at your CC if 1) you don't do well, and 2) you take classes there at the same time as you are taking classes at your undergrad. If you could do bio and chem over the summer sessions and take "regular" Ochem along with your other coursework then I don't think it's a big deal. Students get in to medical school with community college pre reqs. but you have to do well.

and I disagree that adcoms are sorting through applicants looking for reasons to disqualify....it may be a matter of semantics, but really they are looking to see who in their opinion is qualified to even be interviewed. and at most places people screening the applicants will be discerning enough to see "wow, engineering major. at most places it's near impossible to be premed and engineering -- it makes sense that the guy took courses elsewhere."
 

kevinm

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Apr 16, 2008
48
1
Status (Visible)
  1. Pre-Medical
As a quick aside, it's not that I want to take the courses elsewhere- I'd much rather prefer taking them at my home school...it's just that it's absolutely impossible to schedule a 3 hour organic chemistry lab on top of my other course work.

Spending about $8,000 to take organic chemistry at my four year school his summer will hurt, but if it's the only way, I guess I can try to pull that off.

So it's looking like the best move for me would be to take organic 1 & 2 at my four year college and biology 1 and chemistry 2 at the CC?
 

kedrin

Full Member
10+ Year Member
5+ Year Member
Jan 24, 2008
317
6
Status (Visible)
  1. Medical Student
where is this 8k for 8 hrs school?

i cant believe all the money people pay for undergrad. My tuition for 15-18 hrs each semester is about 3900.
 

kevinm

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Apr 16, 2008
48
1
Status (Visible)
  1. Pre-Medical
where is this 8k for 8 hrs school?

i cant believe all the money people pay for undergrad. My tuition for 15-18 hrs each semester is about 3900.

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. It's a private engineering school, which means they can suck us dry. Asking price is $900/credit; there's no financial aid available for the summer.
 

newdoc15

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Apr 17, 2008
58
0
Status (Visible)
  1. Medical Student
Your app may take a slight hit at certain schools or among individuals in an adcom, but as long as your overall package is fairly competitive I would not think it's worth $8,000 and a year to wait and take the classes at Rensselaer.

The only way it will really hurt you is either: a) it appears to the adcom that you took CC courses just to avoid a more difficult version at a 4-year (for example, if you did not have a compelling reason like schedule or cost to take the courses at CC instead of at 4-year), or b) your academic ability or knowledge of prerequisite material is in question because you have not established it somewhere else in the app. You seem to be okay with respect to these points. Just be sure to do respectably well on the MCAT.
 

HumidBeing

In Memory of Riley Jane
Moderator Emeritus
10+ Year Member
Jun 19, 2007
18,706
7
Keeping Warm
Status (Visible)
Take them wherever works best for you. If your numbers and everything else that goes along with the application are going to get you an interview, they are going to get you an interview no matter where you take those classes.

If anyone who has sway over your acceptance questions your reasons for doing prereqs at a CC while enrolled in a uni, they'll ask during the interview instead of tossing you aside beforehand. You have sensible reasons.

Someone is sure to pipe up and say that "some" schools don't accept CC credits. The only one I've ever found that says that is BU (I'm pretty sure that's the one), and even they leave themselves an opening to make exceptions when considering the circumstances for taking classes there.

Under normal circumstances, it's not advisable to take prereqs at a CC while enrolled in a uni. Between the scheduling impossibilities and $$$ that it would cost you, taking them at the CC is a sensible decision.
 
About the Ads
This thread is more than 13 years old.

Your message may be considered spam for the following reasons:

  1. Your new thread title is very short, and likely is unhelpful.
  2. Your reply is very short and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  3. Your reply is very long and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  4. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose.
  5. Your message is mostly quotes or spoilers.
  6. Your reply has occurred very quickly after a previous reply and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  7. This thread is locked.