Reminder: 50% of students who apply to dental school each year matriculate!

[CareerNumTwo]

When I read day after day that thousands and thousands of students applied to X school to fill 60-80 seats, it's a little disheartening. Especially when I constantly see very impressive GPAs and DAT scores from some of you on here.

However, I came across these graphs courtesy of the ADEA. The last data recorded was 2014, but I can't imagine it has shot up significantly since then. In 2014, slightly less than 12,000 people applied to dental school and 5,892 enrolled. Additionally, the ratio of applicants to enrollees has been trending downwards (I know this is partly due to all the new schools opening).

P.S. Yes, I know that this also means that 50% of those people who apply don't get in. But I'm old and a glass half full kind of person. And I like knowing my odds...

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[gangazi]

YOU BRIGHTEN UP MY DAY (NIGHT**)

 

[FeralisExtremum]

Wow, 1990 was a real good year to be applying to dental school.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzzzzzz]

thanks for sharing! definitely makes me feel better

 

[Cranjis McBasketball]

You guys should also be aware, though, that this last year was a huge difference in number of applicants compared to those that applied. It was the most competitive year to date in terms of apply to acceptance ratio for dental school. This trend will continue as less and less people want to become doctors. So just always bust your back to get the best stats you can. Because each year is gonna get more and more competitive

 

[cacajuate]

You guys should also be aware, though, that this last year was a huge difference in number of applicants compared to those that applied. It was the most competitive year to date in terms of apply to acceptance ratio for dental school. This trend will continue as less and less people want to become doctors. So just always bust your back to get the best stats you can. Because each year is gonna get more and more competitive

Where did you get stats saying that this year had the most applicants?

 

[sumin5924]

You guys should also be aware, though, that this last year was a huge difference in number of applicants compared to those that applied. It was the most competitive year to date in terms of apply to acceptance ratio for dental school. This trend will continue as less and less people want to become doctors. So just always bust your back to get the best stats you can. Because each year is gonna get more and more competitive

You mean less MD/DOs? Dentists are doctors too!

 

[1passbbsSHAVE]

You mean less MD/DOs? Dentists are doctors too!

"oh my gosh, I think I have a rotten tooth. I am gonna have to call my doc and make an appointment" sounds about right. LOL

 

[Cello]

"oh my gosh, I think I have a rotten tooth. I am gonna have to call my doc and make an appointment" sounds about right. LOL

Anyone with a doctoral degree is called doctor.

 

[1passbbsSHAVE]

Anyone with a doctoral degree is called doctor.

I did not deny that, I was just saying that dds/dmd degree holders are usually referred to as by "dentists", even though they may be addressed as "dr.smith" by patients.

 

[JLT223]

Dentists are doctors but NOT physicians as their MD/DO colleagues are. That's the distinction.

 

[cacazor]

I did not deny that, I was just saying that dds/dmd degree holders are usually referred to as by "dentists", even though they may be addressed as "dr.smith" by patients.

What does the "dr." in "dr.Smith" mean to you?

 

[ncide]

Dentists are doctors but NOT physicians as their MD/DO colleagues are. That's the distinction.

Unless they are oral surgeons.

 

[Hyunin1210]

Lets all let go of our pride. We know what he meant. We are going to dental school to become dentists. Most physicians will call you doctor and have respect for you and what you do.

 

[JLT223]

Unless they are oral surgeons.

Unless you get the MD you are still NOT considered a physician by law. Kind of crazy considering what OMFS are capable of doing in a hospital setting.

 

[Hyunin1210]

Unless you get the MD you are still NOT considered a physician by law. Kind of crazy considering what OMFS are capable of doing in a hospital setting.

They don't get honorary physician status after that grueling surgery residency? hahah

 

[Cello]

Unless you get the MD you are still NOT considered a physician by law. Kind of crazy considering what OMFS are capable of doing in a hospital setting.

The Joint Commission has revised the definition of physi-
cian and, as a result of this change, several elements of per-
formance (EPs). These changes apply to the hospital program
and are effective July 1, 2009. Previously, the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals contained two entries for the
term physician: (1) a doctor of medicine or osteopathy and (2)
as defined by Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
(CMS) in section 482.12(c)(1) of the Hospital Conditions of
Participation. The revised definition eliminates the first entry
and replaces the second entry to reflect the CMS definition of
physician as found in Section 1861(r) of the Social Security
Act. This definition more accurately reflects expectations of
CMS for deemed status purposes. The revised entry for the
term physician in the “Glossary” chapter of the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals is noted in the box below.
Generally, the term includes the following individuals, as
authorized by state law and regulation:

● Doctor of medicine or osteopathy
● Doctor of dental surgery or dental medicine
● Doctor of podiatric medicine
● Doctor of optometry
● Chiropractor

 

[A Pre-dent]

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[Advance]

The Joint Commission has revised the definition of physi-
cian and, as a result of this change, several elements of per-
formance (EPs). These changes apply to the hospital program
and are effective July 1, 2009. Previously, the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals contained two entries for the
term physician: (1) a doctor of medicine or osteopathy and (2)
as defined by Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
(CMS) in section 482.12(c)(1) of the Hospital Conditions of
Participation. The revised definition eliminates the first entry
and replaces the second entry to reflect the CMS definition of
physician as found in Section 1861(r) of the Social Security
Act. This definition more accurately reflects expectations of
CMS for deemed status purposes. The revised entry for the
term physician in the “Glossary” chapter of the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals is noted in the box below.
Generally, the term includes the following individuals, as
authorized by state law and regulation:

● Doctor of medicine or osteopathy
● Doctor of dental surgery or dental medicine
● Doctor of podiatric medicine
● Doctor of optometry
● Chiropractor

Wow, alrighty then.

 

[Cello]

Except for lawyers, who receive a Juris Doctor (J.D.). They are never called doctors, unless they happen to hold another doctoral degree.

There is no reason that you couldn't refer to a J.D. as a doctor. They are in fact a doctor of law.

 

[Advance]

The Joint Commission has revised the definition of physi-
cian and, as a result of this change, several elements of per-
formance (EPs). These changes apply to the hospital program
and are effective July 1, 2009. Previously, the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals contained two entries for the
term physician: (1) a doctor of medicine or osteopathy and (2)
as defined by Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
(CMS) in section 482.12(c)(1) of the Hospital Conditions of
Participation. The revised definition eliminates the first entry
and replaces the second entry to reflect the CMS definition of
physician as found in Section 1861(r) of the Social Security
Act. This definition more accurately reflects expectations of
CMS for deemed status purposes. The revised entry for the
term physician in the “Glossary” chapter of the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals is noted in the box below.
Generally, the term includes the following individuals, as
authorized by state law and regulation:

● Doctor of medicine or osteopathy
● Doctor of dental surgery or dental medicine
● Doctor of podiatric medicine
● Doctor of optometry
● Chiropractor

So can we call dental assistants.... a Physician assistant?

 

[BeaverLover]

There is no reason that you couldn't refer to a J.D. as a doctor. They are in fact a doctor of law.

Yup. Had a lawyer that taught my communications class, told the class to call her Dr.

 

[Scumbag_Steve]

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[JLT223]

The Joint Commission has revised the definition of physi-
cian and, as a result of this change, several elements of per-
formance (EPs). These changes apply to the hospital program
and are effective July 1, 2009. Previously, the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals contained two entries for the
term physician: (1) a doctor of medicine or osteopathy and (2)
as defined by Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
(CMS) in section 482.12(c)(1) of the Hospital Conditions of
Participation. The revised definition eliminates the first entry
and replaces the second entry to reflect the CMS definition of
physician as found in Section 1861(r) of the Social Security
Act. This definition more accurately reflects expectations of
CMS for deemed status purposes. The revised entry for the
term physician in the “Glossary” chapter of the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals is noted in the box below.
Generally, the term includes the following individuals, as
authorized by state law and regulation:

● Doctor of medicine or osteopathy
● Doctor of dental surgery or dental medicine
● Doctor of podiatric medicine
● Doctor of optometry
● Chiropractor

Now chiros are considered physicians? Good grief.

 

[1passbbsSHAVE]

The Joint Commission has revised the definition of physi-
cian and, as a result of this change, several elements of per-
formance (EPs). These changes apply to the hospital program
and are effective July 1, 2009. Previously, the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals contained two entries for the
term physician: (1) a doctor of medicine or osteopathy and (2)
as defined by Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
(CMS) in section 482.12(c)(1) of the Hospital Conditions of
Participation. The revised definition eliminates the first entry
and replaces the second entry to reflect the CMS definition of
physician as found in Section 1861(r) of the Social Security
Act. This definition more accurately reflects expectations of
CMS for deemed status purposes. The revised entry for the
term physician in the “Glossary” chapter of the Comprehensive
Accreditation Manual for Hospitals is noted in the box below.
Generally, the term includes the following individuals, as
authorized by state law and regulation:

● Doctor of medicine or osteopathy
● Doctor of dental surgery or dental medicine
● Doctor of podiatric medicine
● Doctor of optometry
● Chiropractor

CHIROPRACTOR? That surprises me the most! I always make fun of them for being a fake doctor, and still go when my back hurts LOL LOL

 

[schmoob]

What does the "dr." in "dr.Smith" mean to you?

Diaper rash cream

 

[Mascota]

The last thing chiropractor's egos need is to be categorized with people who have actually earned their doctorate degrees. Good grief.