crazy eyes, check your PMs
crazy eyes said:Lets speak actions instead of reputation... Look at the NIH funding/medical school, in other words, in the UNBIASED view of the scientific community how LEGITIMATE is the work your medical school is doing. For the response, check this link http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medttl02.htm
as you can plainly see, Harvard is not in the top 5 and Baylor is. Im sorry but actions speak louder than words. Harvard is the inbred hole of an elitist's wet dream. Bear paw, stop pawing your "bear" (if that is your pet name for your p*nis, oops, I mean ego) and just graduate from high school before you present your thesis on professional school selection criteria!
kikkoman said:The most obvious fallacy is the NIH funding one. Harvard medical school is split into several "affiliated" institutions: Mass Gen., Beth Israel, etc. etc that make up the true "medical school." For overall NIH funding, Harvard med is on top by a bit.
Eugenie98 said:Yes, including affiliated hospitals Harvard has quite a bit more in research money.
According to the NSF total R&D expenditures for 2001 and the institutions' websites (for affiliated institution I used their websites)
Harvard Med School had total R&D expenditures of $372 million.
Affiliated: $350 million at Mass Gen, $240 million at Brigham & W, $150 million at Beth Israel, $100 million at Dana-Farber, $80 million at Children's
Baylor had total R&D expenditures of $381 million.
Affiliated: MD-Anderson $262 million, UT Health Sci Center $150 million
Really though, Harvard and Boston are the be-all and end-all in life science research.. with Houston in second place
JPaikman said:Just an addition:
Harvard's >$10 Billion endowment allows many professors there to go without a large number of grants for their research. The proceeds from the endowment are used in lieu of NIH grants - these further deflate Harvard's NIH funding numbers.
Also, according to this NIH webpage: http://grants1.nih.gov/grants/award/trends/top100fy02.htm
TOP 10 Cities By Research Dollars in FY 2002:
1 = Boston = 1,042 Million
2 = New York = 1,028 Million
3 = Philadephia = 730 Million
4 = Baltimore = 704 Million
5 = San Diego = 692 Million
6 = Seattle = 642 Million
7 = Los Angeles = 549 Million
8 = Houston = 497 Million
9 = Cambridge, MA = 481 Million
10 = San Francisco = 430 Million
As you can see, Cambridge ALONE almost equals all of Houston, and some of these numbers don't include Berkeley, Stanford, La Jolla, University City PA, Cold Spring Harbor, etc.
Eugenie98 said:I would expect as much since Boston/Cambrdige/Worcester has twice as many medical schools
Boston/Cambridge/Worcester has Harvard, UMass, Boston U, and Tufts Medical School, whereas Houston has Baylor and UT @ Houston Medical Schools.
Eugenie98 said:I would expect as much since Boston/Cambrdige/Worcester has twice as many medical schools
Boston/Cambridge/Worcester has Harvard, UMass, Boston U, and Tufts Medical School, whereas Houston has Baylor and UT @ Houston Medical Schools.
jlee9531 said:rice/baylor.
Eugenie98 said:After much deliberation, I withdrew from Rice/Baylor and matriculated at Princeton.
Four years is quite a long time, and I may change my mind in those four years. A Rice education is good, but its economics department is #40 whereas Princeton's is #1.
My theory is that a Princeton undergraduate degree in economics, and an MD from a so-so medical school will be more substantive than an undergrad degree in econ from Rice and an M.D. from Baylor.
I plan to work in health policy or ophthalmology, and a Princeton degree would be more valuable for the former.
you just go study your boards haha.Jalby said:A bit slow there.
jlee9531 said:you just go study your boards haha.
I got the same feeling too...the same people who says "Who cares about school's prestige" sometimes turn out to be the same people who goes "Wow you got into Harvard/Hopkins/Penn/UCSF/Duke, you must bre REALLY smart!"bearpaw said:congrats.
you're going to princeton, and somekevinguy is going to harvard med.
nearly everyone else on the site told both of you to go to the less prestigious option. i'm glad both of you cut the BS and went with what you wanted to do all along. people downplay prestige, but nearly every kid on this site still wants to go to the most prestigious medical school, so they are just full of it.
just do well there and baylor won't even be an afterthought. congrats once again.
Thanks for returning to tell us The Rest of The Story.Just a follow up, now that it's 9 years later. I majored in geology/geophysics at Princeton and became an energy trader for a hedge fund.
That's awesome. Thanks for coming back to share!Just a follow up, now that it's 9 years later. I majored in geology/geophysics at Princeton and became an energy trader for a hedge fund.
I live beach-side in the Caribbean and I love what I do.
1) If I had gone to Rice via Rice/Baylor, well.. for my particular area... it probably would have not been an impediment, given that Houston has no shortage of energy trading jobs.
2) If I had wanted to work in anything that uses undergrad as a filtering function, Princeton has a tremendous edge, hands down. Almost all of those jobs are in finance/consulting/investment management.
3) If you are 100% certain you are going to medical school, the Rice/Baylor program is a no-brainer. It is a hellish process to apply to medical school and Princeton's grade deflation policies are not kind (though they are under review under the new Princeton President).
Just a follow up, now that it's 9 years later. I majored in geology/geophysics at Princeton and became an energy trader for a hedge fund.
I live beach-side in the Caribbean and I love what I do.
1) If I had gone to Rice via Rice/Baylor, well.. for my particular area... it probably would have not been an impediment, given that Houston has no shortage of energy trading jobs.
2) If I had wanted to work in anything that uses undergrad as a filtering function, Princeton has a tremendous edge, hands down. Almost all of those jobs are in finance/consulting/investment management.
3) If you are 100% certain you are going to medical school, the Rice/Baylor program is a no-brainer. It is a hellish process to apply to medical school and Princeton's grade deflation policies are not kind (though they are under review under the new Princeton President).