Rick Perry 2012

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I have previously voted for Democrats including Obama in 2008. But after Obamacare and realizing that his perpetual pursuit of compromise is not getting a whole lot done for this country I may vote Republican next go around ... if its Rick Perry.

--Torte reform was passed under his tenure.

--A thriving health care industry in Texas

--Endorsed by the Texas Society of Anesthesiologists.

--He would likely have the cajones to attempt to repeal obama-care, or at least obstruct its implementation

The alternatives are more Obama. Mitt Romney who was for obamacare before he was against it. Michelle Bachman who seems like more rhetoric than substance (like the current guy in power)

I'm not a conservative didnt like Bush and I'm liberal as all hell when it comes to social issues but as a physician I think Perry will represent us the best come 2012.
 
Ron Paul all the way.
 
Ron Paul will win poll after poll, but the media will marginalize him. He makes many within the existing power structure very nervous, and suffice it to say he has some very powerful enemies.

At least he'll be around to widen the debate from the same old distractor topics and get to some real issues facing this country. But, he will be marginalized by the media as always.
 
Couple thoughts,
who in their right mind would want to run for president at this time?
Ron Paul will at least push for the legalization of the doobie, so that's a plus.
Michelle Bachman is a closed minded joke. She wants to make porn illegal. Like we need to fill our over stuffed prisons with guys ( yeah, only guys bc girls don't look at porn) that checked out some porn. We have much bigger issues than porn. f'in ******.
I don't know anything about Perry but isn't he the Texas gov? Texas has managed to do pretty well through all of this economic turmoil. Granted they are rich in resources like oil and gas. And Perry can debate. He will destroy Bachman, she's all fluff.
 
Rick Perry?

Aww, HELL NO!

That sums up my thoughts nicely and could be applied to any current Republican contender with the possible exception of Ron Paul.
 
Rick Perry?

Aww, HELL NO!

That sums up my thoughts nicely and could be applied to any current Republican contender with the possible exception of Ron Paul.

The Newt was a pretty cool cucumber in the debate. Can't stand the blowhard but thought he performed well.
 
FTFY 😀


I like Ron Paul. I don't think he will get through the primary though.

Its funny because Jon Stewart just did a segment about how the media tends to ignore Ron Paul despite the fact he narrowly lost in Iowa. He's doesn't have the star power that keeps them interested I guess.

He's not getting going to get the nomination.
 
Perry has some fundamentalist leanings that weird me out.

No kidding. Hasn't he allied himself with a group that thinks that the cause of the Holocaust was gays?

Seriously.
 
Didn't Rick Perry have a massive prayer rally to try stimulate the economy? Please: this is really dangerous stuff with seriously frightening implications. There is no way we can let this man become president. This has to frighten you more than the 3% tax hike we might get with Obama.
 
Didn't Rick Perry have a massive prayer rally to try stimulate the economy? Please: this is really dangerous stuff with seriously frightening implications. There is no way we can let this man become president. This has to frighten you more than the 3% tax hike we might get with Obama.


Prayer Frightens you? Politicians running in the Primary always lean extra left (Democrats) or extra right (Republican). Perry is a Centrist and a smooth politician. I'm not saying he is my choice but rather it's the economy stupid.
 
No kidding. Hasn't he allied himself with a group that thinks that the cause of the Holocaust was gays?

Seriously.

And Obama has allied himself with.....
 
Didn't Rick Perry have a massive prayer rally to try stimulate the economy? Please: this is really dangerous stuff with seriously frightening implications. There is no way we can let this man become president. This has to frighten you more than the 3% tax hike we might get with Obama.

I see. Christians praying to stimulate the economy somehow frightens you - and Obama and his far-left anti-semitic socialist anti-capitalist pro-Islamic stances don't? Are you kidding me?
 
Didn't Rick Perry have a massive prayer rally to try stimulate the economy? Please: this is really dangerous stuff with seriously frightening implications. There is no way we can let this man become president. This has to frighten you more than the 3% tax hike we might get with Obama.

To tell the truth, I'm more concerned with a re-elected Obama's next couple of Supreme Court appointees than I am with any tax increases.



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Watching Mr. nonspontaneous can't-talk-without-a-teleprompter try to debate his ******ed policies and horrendous results will be pure joy.

When have we ever had actual debates? Presidential "debates" are a televised series of 90-second speeches and talking points, with explicit and very restrictive rules candidates force each other and the moderators to agree to ahead of time.

Never in my lifetime have I witnessed two presidential candidates actually debate each other. I doubt I ever wil.
 
Ron Paul will win poll after poll, but the media will marginalize him. He makes many within the existing power structure very nervous, and suffice it to say he has some very powerful enemies.

At least he'll be around to widen the debate from the same old distractor topics and get to some real issues facing this country. But, he will be marginalized by the media as always.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO93P6uz9t8[/youtube]

The thing is his own "party's" network is giving him the finger, too.
 
I wonder why it is so difficult to find a leader that is both sane and has a pair down below. It seems that to have one of these qualities is to sacrifice the other.

Obama - generally sane, but a panderer.

Perry - bat**** mental, but less of a panderer.
 
I wonder why it is so difficult to find a leader that is both sane and has a pair down below. It seems that to have one of these qualities is to sacrifice the other.

Obama - generally sane, but a panderer.

Perry - bat**** mental, but less of a panderer.

Haha @ Perry's description. Same could be said of Bachmann.
 
Ron Paul has my respect. That does not mean much, but I can say that it is rarely something I can say about politicians (whether I agree with them or not, and I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says).

I think it is telling that he is good friends with Kucinich. Politics have become too much about name calling, labeling, etc. You can not debate basic fundamental questions related to our government with 90 second responses.

Also, the fact that the U.S. federal government as an entity is one of the largest economies in the world is beyond ridiculous. How do we expect these people to vote for anything but an expansion (or at least against a cut) of their employment?
 
Couple thoughts,
who in their right mind would want to run for president at this time?
.

ME!!! I will run! I will donate my salary as president back to the country for starts....
and i am sorry to say that I think I would do a better job than any of these candidates, except ron paul. love him, he gets it. he is MY candidate, but i don't know if he will be THE candidate. I don't care for bachmann, don't know enough about perry (except that prayer is never bad, come on.... prayer and ron pauls ideas might just work 🙂
if bachmann is the candidate i will want to vote libertarian.... but i won't. i will vote for whoever they put up against obama. the media is still so snowed by him.... the other day i saw some stupid female newcaster babbling about what a health fiend obama is and how he only wants organic this and that and how active he is and what a good example he is as the picture of health... blah blah blah.... are you kidding me? he SMOKES!
 
ME!!! I will run! I will donate my salary as president back to the country for starts....
and i am sorry to say that I think I would do a better job than any of these candidates, except ron paul. love him, he gets it. he is MY candidate, but i don't know if he will be THE candidate. I don't care for bachmann, don't know enough about perry (except that prayer is never bad, come on.... prayer and ron pauls ideas might just work 🙂
if bachmann is the candidate i will want to vote libertarian.... but i won't. i will vote for whoever they put up against obama. the media is still so snowed by him.... the other day i saw some stupid female newcaster babbling about what a health fiend obama is and how he only wants organic this and that and how active he is and what a good example he is as the picture of health... blah blah blah.... are you kidding me? he SMOKES!

Wait... WHAT?!?!?! That's not healthy?!?!?! Awww, crap. I knew I had it all wrong... :laugh:

(In all honesty, though, I didn't know he smoked)

Saw this piece today:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/17/moore.perry.bush/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
 
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ThinkProgress has assembled the top ten hits from Perry's tenure as governor:

(1) PERRY ALLOWED THE EXECUTION OF A LIKELY INNOCENT MAN, THEN IMPEDED AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE MATTER: In 2004, Cameron Todd Willingham was executed in Huntsville, Texas after being convicted of arson and the murder of his three children. Even after significant evidence emerged showing that arson had not caused the fire (thus exonerating Willingham), Perry refused to grant a stay of execution. Five years after Willingham was executed, a report from a Texas Forensic Science Commission investigator found that the fire could not have been arson. As the commission prepared to hear testimony from the investigator in October 2009, Perry quickly fired and replaced three of its members, forcing an indefinite delay in the hearing.

(2) PERRY WANTS TO REPEAL THE 16th AND 17th AMENDMENTS, ENDING DIRECT ELECTION OF U.S. SENATORS AND THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX: In his 2010 book Fed Up!, Perry called the 16th and 17th Amendments "mistaken" and said they resulted from "a fit of populist rage." The 16th Amendment allows the federal government to collect income taxes, which is the single biggest source of revenue, accounting for 45 percent of all receipts. The 17th Amendment took electing U.S. senators out of the hands of political insiders and allowed the American public to decide their representation instead. If Perry had his way, the federal government would be stripped of its current ability to fund highway construction projects, food inspectors, and the military, and the American public would not even be permitted to elect their own senators.

(3) PERRY PROPOSED LETTING STATES DROP OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICAID: Despite the programs' importance and popularity, Perry has argued that states like Texas should be allowed to opt out of Social Security and Medicaid. Were Perry to have his way on Social Security, "the entire system would collapse under the weight of too many Social Security beneficiaries who had not paid into the system," notes Ian Millhiser. On Medicaid, in addition to stripping 3.6 million low-income Texans of their health care, Perry's proposal would actually hurt, not help, the state's budget deficit. This is because, as Igor Volsky writes, opting out of Medicaid would take "billions out of the state economy that goes on to support hospitals and other providers," while forcing hospitals "to swallow the costs of caring for uninsured individuals who will continue to use the emergency room as their primary source of care."

(4) TEXAS IS THE COUNTRY'S BIGGEST POLLUTER, BUT PERRY SUED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR DISAPPROVING OF THE STATE'S AIR QUALITY STANDARDS: Texas is the biggest polluter in the country, leading the nation in carbon dioxide emissions. However, when the EPA published its "disapproval" of the state's air quality standards for falling short of the Clean Air Act's requirements, Perry sued the federal government to challenge the ruling. Perry's environmental record doesn't end there. He is a global warming denier who called the 2010 BP oil spill an "act of God" while speaking at a trade association funded by BP.

(5) PERRY DESIGNATED AS "EMERGENCY LEGISLATION" A BILL REQUIRING ALL WOMEN SEEKING ABORTIONS TO HAVE SONOGRAMS FIRST: In January, Perry proposed requiring all women seeking abortions to have a sonogram at least 24 hours before the procedure. Under the bill, doctors would be required to "tell a woman the size of her fetus' limbs and organs, even if she does not want to know." Before a woman is permitted to have an abortion, physicians are also forced to provide an image of the fetus and make the woman listen to the sound of its heartbeat. Perry designated his proposal as "emergency legislation," allowing the bill to be rushed through the legislature. He signed it into law last month.

(6) PERRY GUTTED CHILDCARE SERVICES EVEN AS TEXAS CHILDHOOD POVERTY HIT 25 PERCENT: Facing a $27 billion budget deficit this year, Perry decided to gut child support services, despite a report from the Center for Public Policy Priorities that found nearly one in four Texas children lived beneath the poverty line. Instead of raising revenue like California, a state facing a similarly sized deficit, Perry scaled back more than $10 billion of child support over two years. As Think Progress' Pat Garofalo noted, these cuts were proposed despite Texas' possession of a $8.2 billion rainy day fund.

(7) PERRY WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF TEXAS'S ANTI-SODOMY LAWS: Perry was a strong proponent of Texas's anti-sodomy law that was struck down in 2003 by the Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas. Calling the law "appropriate," Perry dismissed the Court decision as the result of "nine oligarchs in robes." Even after being struck down, Perry supported the Texas legislature's refusal to remove the law from its books.

(8) PERRY IS A STIMULUS HYPOCRITE WHO LOUDLY CRITICIZED FEDERAL RECOVERY MONEY BUT USED IT TO BALANCE HIS STATE'S BUDGET: As the nation struggled to avoid economic collapse in 2009, Perry was a vocal critic of Congress's recovery package, even advocating that Texas reject the money because "we can take care of ourselves." Months later, after Perry was able to balance the state's budget only with the aid of billions in federal stimulus dollars, Perry again repeated that he would reject federal funding, arguing that the government "spends money they don't have." Five months later, Perry again took advantage of federal funding to issue $2 billion in bonds for highway improvements in Texas. Even so, the state faces a $27 billion budget deficit.

(9) PERRY SAID THAT TEXAS MIGHT HAVE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES: One hundred and fifty years ago, Texas and other southern states seceded from the Union, resulting in a bloody Civil War. 148 years later, Perry floated the idea that Texas may again have to secede because of a federal government that "continues to thumb their nose at the American people." Perry was roundly criticized for his proposal, yet he repeated his threat the next month on Fox News, telling host Neil Cavuto, "If Washington continues to force these programs on the states, if Washington continues to disregard the tenth amendment, who knows what happens."

(10) DESPITE HAVING THE WORST UNINSURED RATE IN THE COUNTRY, PERRY CLAIMS THAT TEXAS HAS "THE BEST HEALTH CARE IN THE COUNTRY" : On Bill Bennett's radio show last year, Perry claimed that "Texas has the best health care in the country." In reality, Texas has the highest rate of uninsured residents of any state. More than one in four Texans lack coverage; the national average is just 15.4 percent. As such, there are more uninsured residents in Texas than there are people in 33 states. Despite Texas's low coverage rates, the state has some of the most restrictive Medicaid eligibility thresholds, and Perry has even proposed dropping out of the program. Texas also has an inordinately high percentage of impoverished children, yet Perry opposed expanding the successful State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).
 
Perry and Bachman are both crazy fundamentalists not to mention hypocrite.
Bachman is a avid Tea party-er yet she takes farm subsidies, government paychecks for her step kids and her husband's clinic takes medi-caid. Easy to say let's get rid of the government handouts when your bank account is getting fat off them? Don't even get me started on her closeted homophobic husband.

Perry is an openly homophobic guy who doesn't begin to understand the separation of church and state. at his recent "jesus- palooza" as I call it he mentioned that the average homosexual or bisexual has between 300- 1000 sexual partners during their lives. Really? I got a hell of a lot of catching up to do. lol
 
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Perry and Bachman are both crazy fundamentalists not to mention hypocrite.
Bachman is a avid Tea party-er yet she takes farm subsidies, government paychecks for her step kids and her husband's clinic takes medi-caid. Easy to say let's get rid of the government handouts when your bank account is getting fat off them? Don't even get me started on her closeted homophobic husband.

I'm no Bachmann supporter, but wouldn't it be harder to say "get rid of the government handouts" when you benefit from them? Wouldn't it be a sign of integrity and honesty to advocate cutting off your own cheese?

I think the mortgage interest deduction should go away, but I still claim it every year. I think taxes should be higher in every bracket, but I still claw every deduction I can find out of my own tax returns. I think the DOD budget should be cut, but I still check to make sure my DFAS direct deposit happens when it's supposed to. None of that makes me a hypocrite.

Perry is an openly homophobic guy who doesn't begin to understand the separation of church and state. at his recent "jesus- palooza" as I cal it he mentioned that the average homosexual or bisexual has between 300- 100 sexual partners during their lives. Really? I got a hell of a lot of catching up to do. lol

Well, like they say in South Park, if your choice is between a Turd Sandwich and a Douchebag, well I forget exactly what they say, but someone's going to get elected.

If you're going to be a one-issue voter, pick an issue that the presidency can influence most directly.

When it comes to things like civil rights for gay people and separation of church and state there are effective checks and balances in government. As an atheist, the Palins and Bachmanns and Perrys make me kind of uncomfortably twitchy, but I'm not so sure how much genuine change they can effect in those areas. When Palin was running with McCain, I was really uncomfortable with the thought of her brand of religious crazy being one bullet away from the presidency. (Not to mention her boneheaded ignorance and stupidity.) But watching Obama muck around so slowly with the DADT repeal, and ineffectively with the marriage issue has adjusted my opinion some. (I still think she's a *****.)

If Perry gets elected, we're not going to have a nation full of schools that pray before burning gay flags during recess.


In the end, "it's the economy stupid" always applies. Prosperous nations make strides in civil rights issues. Poor nations don't. Vote for the Turd Sandwich if you think he will ruin the economy less than the Douchebag, because neither one cares about gay people getting married. You're going to win that fight in the courts, not through the legislature or executive branch.
 
I'm no Bachmann supporter, but wouldn't it be harder to say "get rid of the government handouts" when you benefit from them? Wouldn't it be a sign of integrity and honesty to advocate cutting off your own cheese?

I think the mortgage interest deduction should go away, but I still claim it every year. I think taxes should be higher in every bracket, but I still claw every deduction I can find out of my own tax returns. I think the DOD budget should be cut, but I still check to make sure my DFAS direct deposit happens when it's supposed to. None of that makes me a hypocrite.
If you're going to be a one-issue voter, pick an issue that the presidency can influence most directly.

When it comes to things like civil rights for gay people and separation of church and state there are effective checks and balances in government. As an atheist, the Palins and Bachmanns and Perrys make me kind of uncomfortably twitchy, but I'm not so sure how much genuine change they can effect in those areas. When Palin was running with McCain, I was really uncomfortable with the thought of her brand of religious crazy being one bullet away from the presidency. (Not to mention her boneheaded ignorance and stupidity.) But watching Obama muck around so slowly with the DADT repeal, and ineffectively with the marriage issue has adjusted my opinion some. (I still think she's a *****.)

If Perry gets elected, we're not going to have a nation full of schools that pray before burning gay flags during recess.

In the end, "it's the economy stupid" always applies. Prosperous nations make strides in civil rights issues. Poor nations don't. Vote for the Turd Sandwich if you think he will ruin the economy less than the Douchebag, because neither one cares about gay people getting married. You're going to win that fight in the courts, not through the legislature or executive branch.

I'm in general agreement with you except the portion about "taxes should be higher in every bracket". If "every bracket" includes many of the 50% of Americans who don't pay ANY income taxes, I'm all for it. Those at the higher end already pay 90% of the taxes in this country. I assume you've heard the stat that says that we can tax 100% of the income above $250k and still wouldn't cover the budget deficit, much less touch the existing debt.

The problem is and always has been too much spending. It is simply not a revenue problem, and increasing revenues doesn't decrease spending - it only promotes it.
 
I'm in general agreement with you except the portion about "taxes should be higher in every bracket". If "every bracket" includes many of the 50% of Americans who don't pay ANY income taxes, I'm all for it.

Even if zombies were roaming the streets, it will forever be politically impossible to directly raise taxes on the lower brackets but not the higher ones.

I say 'directly' because purposeful inflation is essentially a tax, too. People will endlessly argue if it's proportionate to income or regressive, but nobody escapes it, there are no loopholes. Given our current debt levels and previous QE, inflation will surely continue to be part of the plan. How can it not be at $14 trillion and counting?

I agree the biggest problem is spending, mainly admitting that projected Social Security and Medicare expenditures are an accident of history and not chiseled in stone. Old people sure get out the vote though, woe be unto the politician who goes after that cheese.
 
Rick Perry is the best ever example of what a "old fashioned, Vegas-Style Lounge Lizard" is and does.
 
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