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So, have the PDs finished their ROL lists yet?
Is there an ICD-9 code for Matchitis, severe with anxiety features?
Is there an ICD-9 code for Matchitis, severe with anxiety features?
So, have the PDs finished their ROL lists yet?
Is there an ICD-9 code for Matchitis, severe with anxiety features?
Got one of those famous comparing notes calls today.
Just out of curiosity, how does one of those famous conversations go? All I can imagine is that it's something like one of the following:
PD1: So what'd you think of candidate X?
PD2: I really liked him. We're ranking him high and he wants to come here.
PD1: Oh Ok, then we won't rank him high since he's going to your program.
or
PD1: So what'd you think of Candidate Y?
PD2: He had poor social skills on interview day. He's not on our ROL.
PD1: Yeah we thought so too. Wonder where he'll match since we're not ranking him either.
We're doing ours Wednesday. Got one of those famous comparing notes calls today.
We're doing ours Wednesday. Got one of those famous comparing notes calls today.
Don't you guys just rank candidates in the order of your preference, kind of like how we rank programs? Regardless of where they are on other PD's lists?
It's funny how 'gut feel' has become a household word in my family.
Your take on it is exactly what I imagined. A trade off of sorts between buddies might happen. Like I really want candidate A and I know they are ranking you first but if you don't rank them highly we will get them and you can have candidate B whom I know you want and we don't really care about. Does this really happen?
From experience applying a while back in different field:
Then the comparison call comes in:
A: "Who is on the top/bottom of your list?"
B: "X is high up, what great letters he has"
A: "Oh, but X had 3 drinks of alcohol in our social gathering according to the chief resident"
B: "Oh really, I don't want an alcoholic in my program, I'm taking him off the list"
A: "yeah, spread the word... this guy is a bad apple"
B: "I wonder if he'll match"
A: "Who Cares?"
B: "I'll tell every one except the PD at Hospital Z who I no longer speak with. Although he may have his sources."
It's all good.I so want to say this is the way it is, just to be mean.
But it isn't.
You guys are projecting just a little. I don't think anybody "trades". We wouldn't have the power to do that even if we wanted to with the average candidate having a list of 6-15 programs.
The calls tend to be info calls. Specifically the call I mentioned earlier was to me about a candidate from my school. The PD already knew where he/she want to place him/her. Just wanted to know if there were hidden skeletons in the closet. I didn't know of any. Of course even I I had, I wasn't a referee on this one, I don't think I could have revealed it.
Got our list done today. 5.5 hour meeting. Brutal.
Got our list done today. 5.5 hour meeting. Brutal.
Wow, only 5.5 hours? Hmmm... why did it take me SO much longer than that? I'm only ranking 12 programs, and you're ranking around 100 candidates! I suddenly feel like I'm overthinking this thing.
So....can programs make changes to their ROL and re-certify it like we can?
That's a good question. My cash bribes should be arriving in the PD's bank accounts at some point this week. I'd like to know that it'll be useful.
That's a good question. My cash bribes should be arriving in the PD's bank accounts at some point this week. I'd like to know that it'll be useful.
Hey BKN, even though I didn't apply or interview at your program, any chance you can just throw me in at the end there for fun? I would do the same for you. Imagine what we could tell the incoming class in 3 years if we ended up there?
You wouldn't have to tell them.
Ok. I'll just go with the 13 I've got.
Hey, how about people list their ROL and why they put each hospital in what position on the list?
Hey, how about people list their ROL and why they put each hospital in what position on the list?
i'll post mine 2/21 at 22:00 EST
I wish I could somehow combine the people from all 3 and do THAT residency.
That would be a lot of residents and attendings running around. The ED volume would have to be enormous to support that!
I will do a month in each and rotate. OR, I can just take my private jet for shifts at whereever I need to be for the next day!
I'd rather take my yacht so I'll be limited to programs in costal areas that have marinas that will accomodate my Beneteau 57.
Submitted my ROL last night after I got the "you have not certified" email. I felt bullied and kind of scared so I certified. It hasn't changed in weeks anyway. Plus, it said that you could always re-certifly which was the big question. Not that I could imagine changing it, just that I didn't like how definite the whole situation was. It was really only the top 3 that had potential to switch around because they all 3 rock! I wish I could somehow combine the people from all 3 and do THAT residency.
I just certified my ROL! ...it feels good.
Oops, spoke too soon. That good feeling just left. Now I am already wondering if I should flip-flop two pairs! I don't care if there isn't an official ICD-9 code for this disease - it is as real as pancreatic CA!
tkrd, I so hear ya on wanting to combine a few residencies. I too wish I could do that.
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