WestHaven626

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My interest is toward EM and I've found possibly the best school to give good match results.....

Can someone please explain to me, why Rosalind Franklin (formerly Chicago Medical School) has matched in more Southern CA residencies than many medical school outside of California? (better than many top tier medical schools).

Is it because that many are CA residents in that school? Huge class size? Some residents do a Prelim after NOT getting matched?

I'm just really confused and hope someone with some experience can let me know.

2007 Match Results
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2007MR.pdf

2006 Match Results
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2006MR.pdf

2005 Match Results?
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2005MR.pdf
 

WestHaven626

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haha it's just hard to decide, i'm really interested in these results, but i also know that half the class is from CA...maybe that's why?
 
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Yeah, I agree. All those Californians just want to get back home again. And who can blame them after having to endure four Illinois winters?
 

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eh, the 2007 RFU match list is so so considering the class size of 190. The number of prelims (43!) is pretty scary. :eek: No derm or urology matches, and very few orthopedic surgery as well.

Does anyone have the 2008 and 2009 lists? 2009 was a really competitive year so it would be more enlightening to look at.
 

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Picking based on that is a bad idea, plain and simple
 

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eh, the 2007 RFU match list is so so considering the class size of 190. The number of prelims (43!) is pretty scary. :eek: No derm or urology matches, and very few orthopedic surgery as well.

Does anyone have the 2008 and 2009 lists? 2009 was a really competitive year so it would be more enlightening to look at.
Did you ever consider that maybe the class of 2007 that no one wanted to go into derm, urology, or ortho?

Deciding what school to go to based on the match list is laughable.
 

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Whoa don't get offended guys, just felt there wasn't really any "shaking up" with these match lists. They are typical and that I would like to see 2009's list and see if I can identify any trends.
 
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Well lookie here, http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2009MR.pdf

Looks pretty good. 42-->29 prelim's, some Mayo and Johns Hopkins placements, lotta derm, orthopaedic surgery, neuro (even peds neuro and neurosurg!), anesthesiology, radiology, otolaryng, plastics, and opthamology

You said 2009 was a competitive match year? I think they faired out alright....but please correct me if I'm wrong, I have a hard time evaluating these lists
 

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eh, the 2007 RFU match list is so so considering the class size of 190. The number of prelims (43!) is pretty scary. :eek: No derm or urology matches, and very few orthopedic surgery as well.

Does anyone have the 2008 and 2009 lists? 2009 was a really competitive year so it would be more enlightening to look at.
Why is the number of prelims scary? A large majority of those who matched into a prelim spot also matched into a full residency.
 
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That's a scary match list to me ..... there are way too many no-name residency programs on there ... yes, everyone may rank differently and some of those no-namers may actually be their top choice or have a really strong program in that specific residency ... but the general feeling i get from that match list is that you are going to have to shine like no other to really go somewhere good ....
 

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Why is the number of prelims scary? A large majority of those who matched into a prelim spot also matched into a full residency.
Nothing is scary about it. That guy just had no idea what he was talking about.

That's a scary match list to me ..... there are way too many no-name residency programs on there ... yes, everyone may rank differently and some of those no-namers may actually be their top choice or have a really strong program in that specific residency ... but the general feeling i get from that match list is that you are going to have to shine like no other to really go somewhere good ....
It's a typical lower tier med school match list. Nothing wrong with it.
 
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The real question here is why did someone resurrect a year-old thread to post a year-old match list?
haha, 'twas me, guilty. I've been browsing through any sort of forum that had pertinent debates to what I've been going through. I thought I'd start it back up again, because I figure you'd all have some interesting opinions that could really help me through my thought process.
 

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Anyone know where to find this years match list?
 

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Simple:
#1 Rosalind Franklin is a private school
#2 California has like 35 million people (more than any other state by far)
#3 Getting into a medical school in California is hard. Not only are they all great schools (UCLA, UCSF, Stanford, UCI, UCSD, USC-Keck) but there are way too many Californian residents applying to medical schools and not all of them either have the stats to go to a med school in California, or for whatever reason don't get in.
#4 These students will apply to a lower-tier school and/or a private school
#5 Remembering that california has sooooo many people applying to medical school they also will be highly represented at these types of schools
#6 When applying to residency and ranking their selections on their match list, they will want to be closer to home.
#7 In addition since california is really a good place to be (in parts) people will want to apply there.
#8 Thus (In the words of Notorious BIG) you have people "Going going back to back to Cali Cali"
My interest is toward EM and I've found possibly the best school to give good match results.....

Can someone please explain to me, why Rosalind Franklin (formerly Chicago Medical School) has matched in more Southern CA residencies than many medical school outside of California? (better than many top tier medical schools).

Is it because that many are CA residents in that school? Huge class size? Some residents do a Prelim after NOT getting matched?

I'm just really confused and hope someone with some experience can let me know.

2007 Match Results
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2007MR.pdf

2006 Match Results
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2006MR.pdf

2005 Match Results?
http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2005MR.pdf
 
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OUTSTANDING match list results! not only in terms of #s but also programs matched

22 Anestheisa
28 EM
3 Ophtho
7 Ortho
4 ENT
2 Rad onc
16 Rads
plus 1 Derm, NS & Plastics...
relative to 24 IM & 12 FM

Anesthesiology (22)
Loma Linda University-CA
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
Univ of Miami/Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL
NCC-Walter Reed Army Med Ctr-Washington-DC
Emory Univ SOM-GA
NYU School Of Medicine
U Southern California
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
William Beaumont Hosp-MI
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
St Barnabas Med Ctr-NJ
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
Duke Univ Med Ctr-NC
U Illinois COM-Chicago
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
U Southern California
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
U Southern California
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
Duke Univ Med Ctr-NC

Dermatology (1)
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN

Emergency Medicine (28)
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY
SIU SOM & Affil Hosps-IL
U Florida COM-Jacksonville
Long Island Jewish Med Ctr-NY
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Baystate Med Ctr-MA
Michigan St Univ-Kalamazoo
Advocate Christ Med Ctr-IL
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Denver Health Med Ctr-CO
U North Carolina Hospitals
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
West Virginia University SOM
U Louisville SOM-KY
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
Cook County-Stroger Hospital-IL
Madigan Army Med Ctr-Tacoma-WA
William Beaumont Hosp-MI
Hennepin Co Med Ctr-MN
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN
Henry Ford HSC-MI
U Arizona Affil Hospitals
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY
St John Hospital-MI
NYU School Of Medicine
Hennepin Co Med Ctr-MN
Allegheny Gen Hosp-PA

Family Medicine (12)
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Advocate Christ Med Ctr-IL
Fam Med Residency of Idaho-Boise
MacNeal Mem Hosp-IL
O'Connor Hospital-CA
Tripler Army Med Ctr-Honolulu-HI
Alaska Family Med/Providence Hosp
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
VCU-Fairfax Family Med Res
Univ of Toronto-ON-Canada
St Josephs Reg Med Ctr-IN
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL

Internal Medicine (24)
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Med Ctr-NH
Univ of Chicago/North Shore-IL
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center-CA
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
UPMC Medical Education-PA
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN
UPMC Medical Education-PA
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Med Ctr-NH
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
U Iowa Hosps and Clinics
UC San Francisco-Fresno-CA
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Breznikar Oregon Health & Science Univ
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
UPMC Medical Education-PA
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
St Mary Med Ctr-Long Beach-CA
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX

Medicine-Pediatrics (1)
University at Buffalo SOM-NY

Medicine-Preliminary (20)
Mt Sinai Hosp Med Ctr-IL
UIC/Advocate Christ Med Ctr-Chicago
Englewood Hospital-NJ
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Illinois COM-Chicago
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Santa Barbara Cottage Hosp-CA
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Olive View- UCLA Med Ctr-CA
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
UIC/Advocate Christ Med Ctr-Chicago
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
St Francis Hosp-Evanston-IL
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr

Neurological Surgery (1)
Wake Forest Baptist Med Ctr-NC

Neurology (4)
U Utah Affil Hospitals
U Illinois COM-Chicago
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

Obstetrics-Gynecology (8)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Kaiser Perm-Santa Clara-CA
Indiana Univ Sch Of Med
NYU School Of Medicine
Emory Univ SOM-GA
St Joseph Hosp-IL
George Washington Univ-DC
*Requested omission

Ophthalmology (3)
Univ of Maryland Med Ctr-MD
Loma Linda University-CA
Univ of Miami-Bascom Palmer Eye Institute-FL

Orthopaedic Surgery (7)
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
NYU School Of Medicine
Henry Ford HSC-MI
Tripler Army Med Ctr-Honolulu
Michigan State Univ/McLaren Reg Med Ctr
Case Western/Univ Hosps Case Med Ctr-OH
University Hosps-Columbia-MO

Otolaryngology (4)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
West Virginia University SOM
U Illinois COM-Chicago

Pathology (1)
U Colorado SOM-Denver

Pediatrics (19)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
Childrens Hospital-LA-CA
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway
FSU-Sacred Heart Hospital-FL
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
Childrens Hosp of Michigan
Northwestern McGaw/CMH-IL
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
Johns Hopkins Hosp-MD
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
Stony Brook Teach Hosps-NY
U Minnesota Med School
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
U Minnesota Med School

Phys Medicine & Rehab (4)
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
U North Carolina Hospitals
U Colorado SOM-Denver

Plastic Surgery (1)
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark

Psychiatry (4)
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
VA Greater LA Hlth Sys-CA
Rush University Med Ctr-IL

Radiation-Oncology (2)
McMaster Univ-Hamilton-ON-Canada
U Iowa Hosps and Clinics

Radiology-Diagnostic (16)
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
U Texas Southwestern Med Sch-Dallas
U North Carolina Hospitals
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
Oregon Health & Science Univ
U Southern California
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY
William Beaumont Hosp-MI
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
Loma Linda University-CA
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Maricopa Med Ctr-AZ
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
U Southern California
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH

Surgery-General (7)
Banner Good Samaritan Med Ctr-AZ
Naval Med Ctr-San Diego-CA
U Massachusetts Med School
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles-CA
Morristown Mem Hosp-NJ
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA

Surgery-Preliminary (5)
U North Carolina Hospitals
St Joseph Hosp-IL
Huntington Memorial Hosp-Spalding,
Univ Med Ctr-IL
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark

Transitional (13)
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
St Lukes Med Ctr-WI
NCC-Walter Reed Army Med Ctr-Washington-DC
Emory Univ SOM-GA
Tucson Hospitals Med Ed-AZ
Providence Sacred Heart Med Ctr-WA
Wheaton Franciscan Healthcare-St Joseph-WI
MacNeal Mem Hosp-IL
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
Naval Med Ctr-San Diego-CA
St Joseph Hosp-IL
Weiss Memorial Hospital-IL
Resurrection Med Ctr-IL
 
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Simple:
#1 Rosalind Franklin is a private school
#2 California has like 35 million people (more than any other state by far)
#3 Getting into a medical school in California is hard. Not only are they all great schools (UCLA, UCSF, Stanford, UCI, UCSD, USC-Keck) but there are way too many Californian residents applying to medical schools and not all of them either have the stats to go to a med school in California, or for whatever reason don't get in.
#4 These students will apply to a lower-tier school and/or a private school
#5 Remembering that california has sooooo many people applying to medical school they also will be highly represented at these types of schools
#6 When applying to residency and ranking their selections on their match list, they will want to be closer to home.
#7 In addition since california is really a good place to be (in parts) people will want to apply there.
#8 Thus (In the words of Notorious BIG) you have people "Going going back to back to Cali Cali"
Way to leave out UCD :laugh:
 

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And to put UCLA in front of UCSF, UCI in front of UCSD.
 

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Chicago Medical School is part of RFUMS, not formerly known as. It's like how Feinberg School of Medicine is part of Northwestern.

2 reasons so many CMS kids go to California -
1) ridiculous [Californians:California med schools] ratio leaves out-of-state M4s itching to go home.
2) California's lovely. People wanna go there.

Of the 70+ CMS kids I spoke to, only 3 (three!) didn't get their top 3 choice. It's a wicked smart class full of folks who absolutely love medicine.

Important point: For pre-meds and those who haven't started researching residency programs yet, you'll eventually learn that there's no such thing as a "no-name program." No way any of us "heard of" what's best before living and breathing medicine for 4 years.

Consider all the specialties + the fact that we have 50 states (plus DC + Puerto Rico). Each program has different strengths + weaknesses that different students will gauge as more or less important for them.

Just because a hospital has a kickass marketing department or a sweet basketball team doesn't mean they're a Top Place to Go. Wait until you interview for residency... You'll see. :)
 
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