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Rosalind Franklin Match Results Shake Things Up.

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by WestHaven626, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. WestHaven626

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    My interest is toward EM and I've found possibly the best school to give good match results.....

    Can someone please explain to me, why Rosalind Franklin (formerly Chicago Medical School) has matched in more Southern CA residencies than many medical school outside of California? (better than many top tier medical schools).

    Is it because that many are CA residents in that school? Huge class size? Some residents do a Prelim after NOT getting matched?

    I'm just really confused and hope someone with some experience can let me know.

    2007 Match Results
    http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2007MR.pdf

    2006 Match Results
    http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2006MR.pdf

    2005 Match Results?
    http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2005MR.pdf
     
  2. Depakote

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    it's a conspiracy between RFU and West Coast EM Program directors to mess with pre-meds.
     
  3. WestHaven626

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    haha it's just hard to decide, i'm really interested in these results, but i also know that half the class is from CA...maybe that's why?
     
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    Yeah, I agree. All those Californians just want to get back home again. And who can blame them after having to endure four Illinois winters?
     
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    eh, the 2007 RFU match list is so so considering the class size of 190. The number of prelims (43!) is pretty scary. :eek: No derm or urology matches, and very few orthopedic surgery as well.

    Does anyone have the 2008 and 2009 lists? 2009 was a really competitive year so it would be more enlightening to look at.
     
  6. Blesbok

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    Picking based on that is a bad idea, plain and simple
     
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    Did you ever consider that maybe the class of 2007 that no one wanted to go into derm, urology, or ortho?

    Deciding what school to go to based on the match list is laughable.
     
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    Whoa don't get offended guys, just felt there wasn't really any "shaking up" with these match lists. They are typical and that I would like to see 2009's list and see if I can identify any trends.
     
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    Well lookie here, http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/dnn/portals/18/documents/admissions/2009MR.pdf

    Looks pretty good. 42-->29 prelim's, some Mayo and Johns Hopkins placements, lotta derm, orthopaedic surgery, neuro (even peds neuro and neurosurg!), anesthesiology, radiology, otolaryng, plastics, and opthamology

    You said 2009 was a competitive match year? I think they faired out alright....but please correct me if I'm wrong, I have a hard time evaluating these lists
     
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    Why is the number of prelims scary? A large majority of those who matched into a prelim spot also matched into a full residency.
     
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    That's a scary match list to me ..... there are way too many no-name residency programs on there ... yes, everyone may rank differently and some of those no-namers may actually be their top choice or have a really strong program in that specific residency ... but the general feeling i get from that match list is that you are going to have to shine like no other to really go somewhere good ....
     
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    Nothing is scary about it. That guy just had no idea what he was talking about.

    It's a typical lower tier med school match list. Nothing wrong with it.
     
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    no-name programs?? oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    please.
     
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    The real question here is why did someone resurrect a year-old thread to post a year-old match list?
     
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    haha, 'twas me, guilty. I've been browsing through any sort of forum that had pertinent debates to what I've been going through. I thought I'd start it back up again, because I figure you'd all have some interesting opinions that could really help me through my thought process.
     
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    Anyone know where to find this years match list?
     
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    Simple:
    #1 Rosalind Franklin is a private school
    #2 California has like 35 million people (more than any other state by far)
    #3 Getting into a medical school in California is hard. Not only are they all great schools (UCLA, UCSF, Stanford, UCI, UCSD, USC-Keck) but there are way too many Californian residents applying to medical schools and not all of them either have the stats to go to a med school in California, or for whatever reason don't get in.
    #4 These students will apply to a lower-tier school and/or a private school
    #5 Remembering that california has sooooo many people applying to medical school they also will be highly represented at these types of schools
    #6 When applying to residency and ranking their selections on their match list, they will want to be closer to home.
    #7 In addition since california is really a good place to be (in parts) people will want to apply there.
    #8 Thus (In the words of Notorious BIG) you have people "Going going back to back to Cali Cali"
     
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    OUTSTANDING match list results! not only in terms of #s but also programs matched

    22 Anestheisa
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    7 Ortho
    4 ENT
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    16 Rads
    plus 1 Derm, NS & Plastics...
    relative to 24 IM & 12 FM

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    Way to leave out UCD :laugh:
     
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    And to put UCLA in front of UCSF, UCI in front of UCSD.
     
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    Chicago Medical School is part of RFUMS, not formerly known as. It's like how Feinberg School of Medicine is part of Northwestern.

    2 reasons so many CMS kids go to California -
    1) ridiculous [Californians:California med schools] ratio leaves out-of-state M4s itching to go home.
    2) California's lovely. People wanna go there.

    Of the 70+ CMS kids I spoke to, only 3 (three!) didn't get their top 3 choice. It's a wicked smart class full of folks who absolutely love medicine.

    Important point: For pre-meds and those who haven't started researching residency programs yet, you'll eventually learn that there's no such thing as a "no-name program." No way any of us "heard of" what's best before living and breathing medicine for 4 years.

    Consider all the specialties + the fact that we have 50 states (plus DC + Puerto Rico). Each program has different strengths + weaknesses that different students will gauge as more or less important for them.

    Just because a hospital has a kickass marketing department or a sweet basketball team doesn't mean they're a Top Place to Go. Wait until you interview for residency... You'll see. :)
     

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