RUSH or SUNY Downstate

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THE Croupier said:
if u got accepted to both places, where you u go and why?Thanks


Do you want to go to a public or private school?
 
r u instate or out of state? in either case, you can go in-state after one year at downstate.

most of chicago (and where rush is) is pretty comparable to brooklyn. but downstate is a train ride from manhattan.

rush seems like a more supportive environment.

my personal bias would be with downstate because of the city it's in and because it would come out a bit cheaper over four years.
 
sanford_w/o_son said:
r u instate or out of state? in either case, you can go in-state after one year at downstate.

most of chicago (and where rush is) is pretty comparable to brooklyn. but downstate is a train ride from manhattan.

rush seems like a more supportive environment.

my personal bias would be with downstate because of the city it's in and because it would come out a bit cheaper over four years.

hey w/o son, did you REALLY think the chicago area around Rush was like Brooklyn? what about the population? i thought it was generally much more crowded in Brooklyn, but is that a misobservation?
 
Chicago is beautiful, people are very friendly (Midwest is known for this), the city is extremely clean, and its booming in growth like it never has. A very young city- not overwhelming, not expensive COMPARED to New York- NY will kill you- unless money is not an issue it has a beautiful beach that is extemely popular with lots of volleyball and skin all summer- people come to the courts at 7am to put up nets to reserve courst on the weekends. ... and, just one of the tons of amenities it offers, and two georgeous ballparks- one which house the World Champions. From just a living perspective, Chicago is much more affordable and a beautiful clean city- although NY is georgeous and has a lot to offer as well...
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If you are a NY state resident, I would go to downstate. I have always been jealous of how well their tuition is subsidized.
 
The thing is, Downstate's annual student budget is $45k/year (inc. living expenses, etc) which is pretty pricey for a state school (although still a bargain). It's not like Texas or something where tuition is cheap. So if you have the option of a private school in a low-cost-of-living area, it might not actually cost that much more to go there instead. Although I guess it doesn't matter for the OP since Chicago isn't exactly a cheap place to live.
 
discus said:
hey w/o son, did you REALLY think the chicago area around Rush was like Brooklyn? what about the population? i thought it was generally much more crowded in Brooklyn, but is that a misobservation?

full disclaimer: i've only spent one full day in brooklyn--specifically, a train ride from manhattan to park slope, and i walked all around park slope and to the downstate campus. i know chicago pretty well. for what it's worth, i've been seeing brooklyn on t.v. since sesame street 🙂

rush is in a medical district, alongside a few hospitals and clinics, so within about one mile of rush is mostly non-residential/commercial stuff. outside of that mile, to the southeast you have a brooklyn-like area where a lot of uic students hang out (especially along taylor street east of ashland avenue, and down halsted street) (tri-taylor); to the south you have a brooklyn-like immigrant community (pilsen); to the north up ashland you have the beginning of a brooklyn-like hipster area (ukranian village); and to the west you have the beginnings of re-development. when i say brooklyn-like, i mean lots of tightly packed three story walk-up apartment buildings, with those on main streets having first-floor commercial, pretty lively street-life, and plenty of train/bus nodes. from what i remember about my one day sampling, i think there was more residential/commercial stuff, and hence more street life, in the one mile surrounding downstate than in the one mile surrounding rush. but this is because rush is in a medical district.
 
sanford_w/o_son said:
for what it's worth, i've been seeing brooklyn on t.v. since sesame street 🙂


well then, i think you have a pretty good idea of what brooklyn is like. except big bird now sells crack in east flatbush.
 
i just did a quick, rough craigslist apartment comparison between ukranian village in chicago and park slope in brooklyn. i consider these neighborhoods to be comparable in terms of distance to their respective schools and livability. it looks like park slope is roughly twice as expensive, but there's plenty of variability. e.g., 1 br is around 1000 in ukranian village and 2000 in park slope, give or take.

personally, i'd still go with downstate. i don't feel i really need a supportive school environment, and if you look for cheap housing in brooklyn i think you can still come out cheaper as an oos-er.
 
sanford_w/o_son said:
i just did a quick, rough craigslist apartment comparison between ukranian village in chicago and park slope in brooklyn. i consider these neighborhoods to be comparable in terms of distance to their respective schools and livability. it looks like park slope is roughly twice as expensive, but there's plenty of variability. e.g., 1 br is around 1000 in ukranian village and 2000 in park slope, give or take.

personally, i'd still go with downstate. i don't feel i really need a supportive school environment, and if you look for cheap housing in brooklyn i think you can still come out cheaper as an oos-er.
Park Slope is becoming a very happening area in the city, that's why the prices for apartments are about the same as one in manhattan. It's a great area for people that want to be close to city life but not have to be right in the middle of it.

Personally i would goto downstate cause I love NYC, no other place can beat it. Besides, the clinical is great here!
 
I was only in brooklyn for one day, but I thought the area around downstate was kind of ghetto.
 
zero2hero said:
Park Slope is becoming a very happening area in the city, that's why the prices for apartments are about the same as one in manhattan. It's a great area for people that want to be close to city life but not have to be right in the middle of it.

Personally i would goto downstate cause I love NYC, no other place can beat it. Besides, the clinical is great here!

yeah, being near manhattan would be nice, and besides cost it's why i would go with downstate. but rotating at cook county hospital via rush will also give you great clinical exposure, and i've *heard* that med students at kings county do a decent bit of scutwork.

the area around downstate didn't seem ghetto to me. there were plenty of working-class, non-european immigrants--i.e., it's a frickin' city.
 
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