That is a totally kindergarten level medical exam. Wow.Figured the SDN community would be interested to see it.
How 'bout "NP-SFS" ("Studied From Swanson's")?if an NP is willing and able to step up and take the same exams as physicians then they should be put in a different category than their peers. one might call this person an NP-BCFM (nurse practitioner, board certified in family medicine).
I think it's a pretty good idea ...^ oh i agree 100%. couldn't there be two levels of NPs though? my guess is the vast majority would stick with the nursing exams.
This is a terrible idea. If you have NPs (or Heaven forbid DNPs) taking our board exams and passing (and it would happen), how could we realistically say "Hey, they're not as well trained as we are - don't let them practice by themselves"?i think that if someone wants more responsibility he needs to earn it. if NPs want responsibility beyond the scope of a PA, they need to sit for medical exams not nursing exams. in no way am i saying that this could replace medical school and residency.
here is the beauty in this: with this new higher (highest possible) tier of nursing, the role that the NPs have been fighting for is now available. they will no longer be able to say that they are blocked from providing primary care. however, how many could actually pass the family medicine boards, not to mention the step one exam? very few could!!!
the kind of people that can pass medical licensing exams are the kind of people that go to medical school, not nursing school. lets just go ahead and prove that. and if a few geniuses become NPs and are able to learn the knowledge and skills of a family medicine doctor well...my guess is that number would be insignificantly small.
in the end, the huge failure rate of nurses taking medical boards would be on the news.
Its just a written test, those are quite easy to study for. Implement this, and give the NPs a few years to adjust to it. Most unwise.^ there would be very few that would pass the boards. isn't there an oral part of the family boards?
but if some NP did pass all the MD licensing exams then yeah, i guess there would be no functional difference in the eyes of the law. we are probably talking about a scant few individuals that would be able to do this.
at least this would ensure that whatever nurses do get to "play doctor" really are up to snuff. right now the current model allows a multitude of less competent people to fight for more and more privileges at the expense of patient care.
Its just a written test, those are quite easy to study for. Implement this, and give the NPs a few years to adjust to it. Most unwise.
As the MCAT is given in college and most nursing school is undergrad level, I'm not too familiar with this notion. At my undergrad, the guys who didn't do well on the MCAT became PhDs, PharmDs, or studied hard and took it again (usually doing better).tell that to all the would-be doctors that went to nursing school after they took the MCAT.
doctors should really have nothing to fear here. if someone wants to take the challenge, have them step up to the plate. how about three strike and you're out?
and these NPs would still have to prove competency with various procedures, of course. that would require hours and hours of expensive classes and lots practice. this would be another very real barrier between nursing and doctoring.
there just wont be very many nurse-doctors, so nothing to fear.
on the other hand...the current circus is going to spiral out of control until NPs get whatever it is that they want. some people already believe that nurses are better than doctors. don't you think that idea will keep growing as NP gain practice rights? let's just show them, and the public, what kinds of a hurdles you have to jump over to become a doctor. let's keep track of and publish failure rates too.