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As thousands of dentists graduate every year, and less dentists are retiring. How the hell am I supposed to find a job after dental school?
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Just work at your local mcdonalds after D-school.
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Someone who isn't from Texas please.Just work at your local mcdonalds after D-school.
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Start by applying and then when ready you accept a position. As long as you are open to more than one urban area it really is quite easy to find a job. Now finding a "good" job is more challenging but still not impossible. Saturation is an issue in some areas but you can still get a job. It might be 5 days a week at $120k, possibly split between 2 or 3 offices, but hey that isn't terrible. Relatively speaking. And for the people that will quip that $120k is terrible for a degree that costs $500k, I don't disagree. I also didn't pay that, I paid half of that. But if that's the case then go rural and make that $175k+ first year. And probably more than that year 2,3....
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You're going to be a corporate employee, you'll have an office manager with a GED giving you direction. You'll make $120 before taxes, $86,400 after federal income tax, and have $26,400 to live on after your $5000 per month loan payment.
Don't hitch your wagon to some idea of a rural gold mine. Who started that claim? Rural is a market with less customers who are supposed to have more money? Low volume high fee? What kind of practice is a rural practice? I'll tell you, it's not for the city people who are espousing that rural dream. You need to be small, like small and live small if you're going to be "rural."
Don't hitch your wagon to some idea of a rural gold mine. Who started that claim? Rural is a market with less customers who are supposed to have more money? Low volume high fee? What kind of practice is a rural practice? I'll tell you, it's not for the city people who are espousing that rural dream. You need to be small, like small and live small if you're going to be "rural."
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What line do you draw defining a good job and one not so good?
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You shoulda join the armed forces.. Guaranteed job and no debt..
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Wow so I could be a soldier and a doctor? So I would be able to break someone's bones, whilst naming them at the same time
. I hear it's very competitive to join those HSPS thingies. Plus, I'm not worried too much about debt at around 206k.
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And possibly being stuck doing grunt work, despite being well prepared to do other procedures
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/navy-aegd-gpr-competitiveness.788190/
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That is a very subjective and individual definition. But for me it would be a job where I can treat the patients how I want to treat them, no major pressure to push certain procedures etc. Somewhere I feel like I'm being compensated fairly for my work and happy with the patient population and location. You can probably now see why it's hard to find these jobs as a new grad.
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If I had that much debt over my head, I'd do anything my production manager tells me to. Including grunt work
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I have heard from some rural dentists I know that even rural areas are starting to get saturated since every pre dent has been now saying "I plan on practicing in a rural area after I graduate!"
Its easier to have a full schedule going rural due to lesser competition. Its tougher to be busy in big cities because of higher competetion but there are still busy clinics. Don't focus on the money when you graduate! focus on building up your hand skills and having a great mentor
The jobs market is good. I'm a D4 looking at more offers than I can entertain. Don't stress. You don't need to settle for corporate. I expected to beg for $125k. That's not even close. Heck, I talked to Aspen and they're my lowest at $144+10k sign on. Many private practices (esp rural) will allow you to partner day 1 and the numbers are silly.
PaulS, the beauty of rural is that insurance bases their rates on local competition. In other words, everyone pays well for their work, not just the out of pocket crowd. You can get a booked schedule everywhere, it's just a question of what patients and insurance you accept. If you want to set up in a saturated area in the city and accept medicaid, you will book as deep as you want. You'll lose money on those MODL amalgams, but you'll be busy.
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1.) More women are becoming dentists than ever before. Currently 19% of dentists are female, by 2020 that number is expected to be 28%.
2.) 80% of female dentists are 44 or younger. Conversely, 60% of male dentists are 45 or older.
3.) Women are significantly more likely to work as associates (29%) than men (8%) due in large part to the fact that most practicing females are still young.
4.) Women are also twice as likely to work part-time at 28% to men's 15% which I imagine has to do with child-rearing.
5.) Only 16% of women work overtime compared to the male dentists' collective 30% which again probably has something to do with raising a family.
Consequent to the fact that female dentists are less likely to own their own solo practice, they tend to work less hours as a whole, then it stands to reason that they also therefore tend to make less money. In fact, female dentists earn about $26,000 less on average than males do (remember this the next time you look at mean/average incomes across the profession which have remained stagnant). Of course, they are also seeing less patients, so it makes sense that they should therefore make less money.
As we see more women entering dentistry who want to work less than full-time and whose careers tend to be shorter than their male counterparts, we will see a shift in the demographics of the profession. The older dentists are predominantly male and they are retiring. New dentists are a healthier mix of both genders, and if women choose to work less (as they seem to do) then that means there will be more work for dentists (male or female) who choose to work more.
At the end of the day, there are more dentists than ever before, but when you factor in how many dentists will likely work part-time it means that the work will be there for you if you want to run your own private solo practice and work full-time to make good money.
In today's market, 76% of dentists are in solo practice, so I tend to be a bit skeptical about all of these sky-is-falling scenarios presented by various posters over the years. In fact, as I post this I see a suggested post below about dentistry being saturated which was dated 2006.
In society today, women are still charged with performing the majority of domestic duties. This really puts a damper on their earning ability. I don't think that is going to change anytime soon, despite record numbers of females entering the health professions and often earning more than their domestic partners.
We as a profession should probably concentrate our efforts on threats other than our fellow dentists. Threats that include mid-level encroachment, government over-regulation, the rise of corporate dental mills, and unfair trade practices from insurance companies.
Source: http://www.dentistryiq.com/articles...cus-on-career-choices/women-in-dentistry.html
2.) 80% of female dentists are 44 or younger. Conversely, 60% of male dentists are 45 or older.
3.) Women are significantly more likely to work as associates (29%) than men (8%) due in large part to the fact that most practicing females are still young.
4.) Women are also twice as likely to work part-time at 28% to men's 15% which I imagine has to do with child-rearing.
5.) Only 16% of women work overtime compared to the male dentists' collective 30% which again probably has something to do with raising a family.
Consequent to the fact that female dentists are less likely to own their own solo practice, they tend to work less hours as a whole, then it stands to reason that they also therefore tend to make less money. In fact, female dentists earn about $26,000 less on average than males do (remember this the next time you look at mean/average incomes across the profession which have remained stagnant). Of course, they are also seeing less patients, so it makes sense that they should therefore make less money.
As we see more women entering dentistry who want to work less than full-time and whose careers tend to be shorter than their male counterparts, we will see a shift in the demographics of the profession. The older dentists are predominantly male and they are retiring. New dentists are a healthier mix of both genders, and if women choose to work less (as they seem to do) then that means there will be more work for dentists (male or female) who choose to work more.
At the end of the day, there are more dentists than ever before, but when you factor in how many dentists will likely work part-time it means that the work will be there for you if you want to run your own private solo practice and work full-time to make good money.
In today's market, 76% of dentists are in solo practice, so I tend to be a bit skeptical about all of these sky-is-falling scenarios presented by various posters over the years. In fact, as I post this I see a suggested post below about dentistry being saturated which was dated 2006.
In society today, women are still charged with performing the majority of domestic duties. This really puts a damper on their earning ability. I don't think that is going to change anytime soon, despite record numbers of females entering the health professions and often earning more than their domestic partners.
We as a profession should probably concentrate our efforts on threats other than our fellow dentists. Threats that include mid-level encroachment, government over-regulation, the rise of corporate dental mills, and unfair trade practices from insurance companies.
Source: http://www.dentistryiq.com/articles...cus-on-career-choices/women-in-dentistry.html
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Not sure if you are serious or inviting trolls to answer that question.
About 5,000 new dentists join the profession every year, which is about 2-3% of the workforce. The most recent projection for retiring dentists to surpass entering dentists was scheduled to happen back in 2014, and from there it would continue to climb through 2030. Hence the demand should go up relative to overall population (not in high saturated cities).
California has the lion share of dentist workforce in the country, some 30,000 (or 15%) of all dentists work there, and even they have shortage areas. So if you can find a job in the most saturated state, then you have nothing to worry about.
The above poster mentioned female to male dentist population. In the early 1980's, only 2% of dentists were female, today it's fast approaching 50% - and in a decade or so, they will be the majority. Studies show females are far more relaxed with their work schedule than male dentists due to family and other personal responsibilities. This helps male dentists (the future minority workforce) find and fill the shortage much easier.
In the 80's, 1 in 5 dental students ended up specializing. Today, it's about 1 in 3. So the rate of general dentists entering the profession relative to general population has declined and hence more opportunities for general dentists than specialists.
Future of dentistry is slowly shifting from the occasional major restorative/replacement procedures (root canals, full mouth extractions, dentures, crowns) to more maintenance services at a more frequent intervals than before. This could partially explain why mid-level practioners are being phased in at some states, to support the new trend.
Opportunities/jobs are everywhere. I get 3 text messages a week to help cover for a maternity/medical leave, or work at a new corporate dentist position. If you are having hard time finding a job, it's not because you are a dentist, but a dental student.
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Indiana has a very low dentist to resident ratio, don't they?
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