School-Clinical Psy.D programs?

[superego]

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What do you guys think of these new combined psy.D programs like the two in New York (School Clinical psychology)?

I wonder how competitive the programs are and whether a combined degree is an easier route to a doctorate...any thoughts?

 

[Jon4PsyD]

They ARE a bit less competitive and you do come out with that same licensure🙂 So yes..it could be an easier route. If you want to work with children/adolescents, it may even be a *better* route.

 

[JatPenn]

what would the purpose be of an "easier" route to a doctorate?

 

[Psyclops]

It's a Psy D isn't it?

 

[superego]

what would the purpose be of an "easier" route to a doctorate?

I am not applying to these "easier" programs, simply curious about them.

I was wondering if anyone heard of these new combined degree programs before.

By the way, your hostility concerning academic rigor is unwarranted. Take it elsewhere.

 

[superego]

It's a Psy D isn't it?

Yep. Recently came across program info from Yeshiva University about it.

 

[JatPenn]

By the way, your hostility concerning academic rigor is unwarranted. Take it elsewhere.

😕

what hostility, superego? you asked for thoughts, I requested more information.

considering your defensiveness after my innocuous question concerning the utility of these programs, I'd have to suspect either

a) you indeed are applying to them and are trying to affirm your decision

or

b) you are an administrator at one of these schools and take offense at the very idea that such a program may be useless and/or detrimental to the field.

 

[JatPenn]

PS - you joined the boards yesterday and you're already kicking people out of threads??

 

[Psyclops]

I hope I never have to answer that question on a test....





....but if I had to I would go with (a).

 

[doctorpsych]

What do you guys think of these new combined psy.D programs like the two in New York (School Clinical psychology)?

I wonder how competitive the programs are and whether a combined degree is an easier route to a doctorate...any thoughts?

Well, my understanding that these combined programs are actually not that new... combine programs have been around for a while and if you examine the course work and general knowledge base between the different schools of psychology, there's a huge overlap. I know some individuals who I have worked with from those programs and they are indeed very well prepared...they tend to have a great deal of knowledge of testing (which is helpful in many psychology jobs) and their clinical skills are pretty much in par or superior than traditionally trained psychologist. If your path is clinical work, they actually have an inherent advantage over traditional programs...if your path is academia...that's another story... As a past administrator, I used to give an extra point to those with a combined degree... it sure helps to have someone who is willing to do testing... not everyone really knows that stuff well... I think that they do receive less number of applicants than the state school based programs... but that may be due to funding rather than quality of training... most combined programs are housed in private schools.... and I don't really see how these programs are detremental to our field... they tend to have more coursework than traditional programs... more knowledge, better prepared to work with patients...

 

[Jon4PsyD]

All that is hurting the field are Psychologists who are very ignorant and see only one way as the right way. Not to mention all the socially inept people in the field, and there seem to be tons....

Anyway, the combined PsyD's are GOOD programs. I was at a diversity day at Rutgers and they were telling people to apply for these combined programs stressing that everyone in their mother is doing solely Clinical and that's more detrimental than anything else I'd assume.