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Latteandaprayer

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    White Michigan resident.
    cGPA: 3.79
    sGPA: 3.66
    MCAT: 520

    Hospital volunteering: 210 hours (lots of patient interaction, stopped due to covid)
    Shadowing: 52 hours with a PCP

    Non-clinical volunteering: 200 hours at soup kitchen (had to stop due to covid)

    Research: 2000 hours, first-author pub, presented at university's Cell Bio conference

    Employment: Lab assistant (media, glassware). Caregiver for mother

    EC: Theater club on campus. As general board, I directed, produced and stage managed for a lot of shows. On elected board I was the conflict-resolution chair and I introduced new policies for the club.

    Teaching: TAed one semester for intro bio lab

    LORs: Good to neutral (1 neutral letter as a back-up). No MD LOR from physician I shadowed due to a medical crisis.

    SCHOOL LIST (not necessarily looking to cutdown, just curious if it's too top-heavy, too out of my reach, useless to apply to a school, etc):
    Albert Einstein
    Case Western
    Central Michigan
    Rosalind Franklin
    Columbia*
    Hofstra
    Emory
    Harvard*
    Icahn
    Michigan State
    New York Medical College
    New York University*
    Oakland University
    Ohio State
    Stony Brook
    Tulane
    University of Chicago (Pritzker)*
    University of Colorado
    University of Michigan*
    University of Wisconsin
    Wayne State
    Weill Cornell*
    Western Michigan University
    Yale*

    * denotes super-reach, but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take I guess.
     

    Goro

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      White Michigan resident.
      cGPA: 3.79
      sGPA: 3.66
      MCAT: 520

      Hospital volunteering: 210 hours (lots of patient interaction, stopped due to covid)
      Shadowing: 52 hours with a PCP

      Non-clinical volunteering: 200 hours at soup kitchen (had to stop due to covid)

      Research: 2000 hours, first-author pub, presented at university's Cell Bio conference

      Employment: Lab assistant (media, glassware). Caregiver for mother

      EC: Theater club on campus. As general board, I directed, produced and stage managed for a lot of shows. On elected board I was the conflict-resolution chair and I introduced new policies for the club.

      Teaching: TAed one semester for intro bio lab

      LORs: Good to neutral (1 neutral letter as a back-up). No MD LOR from physician I shadowed due to a medical crisis.

      SCHOOL LIST (not necessarily looking to cutdown, just curious if it's too top-heavy, too out of my reach, useless to apply to a school, etc):
      Albert Einstein
      Case Western
      Central Michigan
      Rosalind Franklin
      Columbia*
      Hofstra
      Emory
      Harvard*
      Icahn
      Michigan State
      New York Medical College
      New York University*
      Oakland University
      Ohio State
      Stony Brook
      Tulane
      University of Chicago (Pritzker)*
      University of Colorado
      University of Michigan*
      University of Wisconsin
      Wayne State
      Weill Cornell*
      Western Michigan University
      Yale*

      * denotes super-reach, but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take I guess.

      Delete Stony Brook, U WI, and replace with U VM, EVMS, or U VA

      Suggest adding Jefferson, SLU, GWU, Gtown, Creighton, BU, Tufts, Loyola, Tulane, Wake, Miami, Seton Hall, NovaMD, TCU/UNT

      Also, Invest in MSAR ONline and remove those schools from your list where you are < their 10th %ile for their GPAs. Keep all MI schools, though. Chances best there.

      denotes super-reach, but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take I guess.
      Applying to medical school isn't basketball or playing the lotto. Med schools don't need the donations from secondaries...take you dad out for Father's Day (when MI opens up)
       
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      John Wick

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        @Goro quick question.. how does an SMP GPA factor in on MSAR? For example, if I have ~3.4 undergrad cGPA (~3.2 sGPA) with a ~3.6 SMP GPA, which GPA do I use to form a school list? I have a 516 MCAT and solid extracurriculars.
         
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          @Goro quick question.. how does an SMP GPA factor in on MSAR? For example, if I have ~3.4 undergrad cGPA (~3.2 sGPA) with a ~3.6 SMP GPA, which GPA do I use to form a school list? I have a 516 MCAT and solid extracurriculars.
          It doesn't. The only clue MSAR can give you is from how many matriculants have post-bac work or graduate degrees.

          I give my list from input from successful SDNers.
           

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            It doesn't. The only clue MSAR can give you is from how many matriculants have post-bac work or graduate degrees.

            I give my list from input from successful SDNers.

            I didn't clarify my question very well.. what GPA should I be using to compare to the GPAs shown on MSAR to put together a school list? My undergrad cGPA may be <10th percentile at a school, but if my graduate GPA is within their range is it worth applying?
             

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              I didn't clarify my question very well.. what GPA should I be using to compare to the GPAs shown on MSAR to put together a school list? My undergrad cGPA may be <10th percentile at a school, but if my graduate GPA is within their range is it worth applying?
              The MSAR reports undergrad GPA's only. I don't have access to know if it posts any information about graduate GPA which is an independent calculation. The best way to know that is to ask your SMP director based on history of matriculated participants.
               
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