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I know that Western likes to look at other things than GPA. Are there any other schools (in the US) that won't ignore you if you don't have a 4.0?
You're probably going to be best off looking at what schools accept a large number of OOS students and making sure that other things on your application make you stand out if your GPA isn't so great.
That's my plan, at least.
twelevetigers... i take you didn't get in. me too are you applying this next cycle?
Michigan State uses a point system, so it's probably not your best bet.... Michigan State...
Ohio wouldn't be a good bet. They require a 3.4 minimum for OOS.
I know for MN you need to meet a minimum GPA + GRE cut off to get an interview invite but after that it gets thrown out. From their website: The academic record (grades and GRE results) will not play a role in the final admissions decision.
Yeah, NCSU is the only one that wants a 3.4. Maybe some where wants a 3.2 but most are 3.0, 2.8, or 2.5. Or there isn't one. Um, does Ohio average grades or replace grades?
Not true. Directly from their website:
"Applicants who are non-residents with a GPA less than a 3.0 will not be considered. Mininimum GRE - 1000 "
They do say that competitive OOS applicants generally have a 3.5 or above though.
Yeah, NCSU is the only one that wants a 3.4. Maybe some where wants a 3.2 but most are 3.0, 2.8, or 2.5. Or there isn't one. Um, does Ohio average grades or replace grades?
I had gotten in with a ~3.2 GPA.
If you have a low GPA you need to have a good answer to the question "Why was your GPA so low?"
If there is some kind of calculus for life sciences or applied calc you can take it might be easier for you. Those sorts of classes tend to be full of people who aren't math-minded so although the material is not really much easier if at all, the curves will usually be more generous.
UTK also requires calc, lol. Wait, will Ohio accept trig? I guess I could take calc online if I had to... *disgust*
As for a GPA explanation, how about "chemistry eats my soul"?
I think UTK required a 3.4 for OOS as well.
Not that I know of. Most info about their admissions procedure can be found here: http://www.vet.utk.edu/admissions/procedure.php
The average quoted for 2 years ago was a 3.6 for out of state.
As for the chemistry comment, TwelveTigers, I'm the same way. They just expect a C in every pre-req. They let me in with C's in organic both semester, but I'm in state. Also, they weigh how hard your semesters are there, so if you have more average hours every semester, you get more points.
I have a cripplingly low GPA. I probably won't get in this coming cycle, but I'm going to do my best to get my GPA up with summer classes. I feel that the rest of my application is competitive, so I'm hoping -someone- out there can look past my just-qualifies GPA.
That said, I'm in the middle of doing my research on which schools I should apply to. I'm a Maryland resident so VMRCVM is my "in-state". With my GPA, I'm not sure it will be all that helpful, but its something to consider. I'm also looking into Kansas State, Colorado State (although as mentioned above, OOS admissions are low), Minnesota, Western and Tuskegee. I still have to go through and find schools with high OOS admissions and compare them to my notes from Successful Applicants threads. I'll keep my eye on this thread, though, because I had this exact same question!
Whoops, that 3.4 should have been a 3.2!
Straight off the website:
A NON-RESIDENT APPLICANT MUST HAVE A MINIMUM CUMULATIVE GRADE POINT AVERAGE OF 3.2 ON A 4.0 SCALE FOR HIS/HER APPLICATION TO BE CONSIDERED.
Yeah, NCSU is the only one that wants a 3.4. Maybe some where wants a 3.2 but most are 3.0, 2.8, or 2.5. Or there isn't one. Um, does Ohio average grades or replace grades?
I interviewed at Western this year and applied only to Tufts my IS and UPenn. My GPA sucks and my GRE is average, but I have really good recs and tons of experience.
I did my follow up at Tufts and they said that they were concerned that I couldn't handle a heavy science course-load and was told that I could PROVE to them by getting A's in science courses I took while working... better yet 2 at time while working.
So here's where I'm torn. I obviously messed up my Western interview or just didn't make the lucky pile of apps. I can retake the GRE and reapply to Western this next cycle and hopefully get an interview or I can take Neuroscience this summer... gack... get an A (hopefully) and apply to a bunch of schools...
I could get into Western this next cycle and go, or get rejected everywhere and have another science course in the bank.
What should I do? Should I apply now just to see if a GRE score helps me or wait a full year, retake courses and apply with a stronger GPA? OR do both?
So here's where I'm torn. I obviously messed up my Western interview or just didn't make the lucky pile of apps. I can retake the GRE and reapply to Western this next cycle and hopefully get an interview or I can take Neuroscience this summer... gack... get an A (hopefully) and apply to a bunch of schools...
Unless there is financial concern or concern over the course you would be taking, I would do both. that way, you could apply to multiple schools and not have all your eggs in one basket.
oh true true true... i'd apply to several schools and Western this cycle... I'm just wondering if it makes sense to wait ANOTHER year...grrr and raise my GPA thus bettering my chances overall...
So here's where I'm torn. I obviously messed up my Western interview or just didn't make the lucky pile of apps. I can retake the GRE and reapply to Western this next cycle and hopefully get an interview or I can take Neuroscience this summer... gack... get an A (hopefully) and apply to a bunch of schools...
I have a ~3.3 GPA and 1520 GRE, 3500+ hours equine vet exp, 20 hours SA exp., and research experience under two PI's (in one, I was just helping with a project, in the other, I had my own project).
BTW, I'm a MD resident and got waitlisted at VMRCVM, Iowa, and MSU. There is another equine person at UC Davis (is she on here?) who is a VA resident and got into UC Davis OOS but not VMRCVM.
Illinois is another one that does not use GPA in the final decisions.
It sounds crazy, but if you have a LOT of experience and a clearly stated and strong interest in an "underserved" area of vet med (basically anything other than SA pvt practice), UC Davis apparently likes that. It blew me away that I got an interview there OOS when I did not get any love at all from Illinois or UPenn, both of which interview lots of OOS'ers. In my optional supplemental essay for UC Davis, I made a case for why I want to do equine/LA medicine AND research/academics. I have a ~3.3 GPA and 1520 GRE, 3500+ hours equine vet exp, 20 hours SA exp., and research experience under two PI's (in one, I was just helping with a project, in the other, I had my own project).
BTW, I'm a MD resident and got waitlisted at VMRCVM, Iowa, and MSU. There is another equine person at UC Davis (is she on here?) who is a VA resident and got into UC Davis OOS but not VMRCVM.
They also don't do interviews, so what's the harm in giving it a shot? honestly, that's one big reason why I checked the box on VMCAS and here I am