should i give up a full scholarship for my top school choice

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I am torn between two schools, getting a full scholarship from a dental school across the country vs. my top choice, UCLA. I'm from California and in the future want to practice and live in CA. I have heard that it is difficult for graduates from the east coast to find a job in CA, is this true?

Aside from that I would need to make a 1 year commitment to the state in the east coast. If I go to UCLA, I will have my connections established in California, which will be great if I'm a specialist.

:confused: Any advice?

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I feel you with the whole CA thing. I myself turned down a cheaper school back east to stay here in CA, with the idea of practicing here when I'm done.

But a full scholarship!!!!!!!! :eek:

The estimated 4 year cost of attendance for a CA resident at UCLA is right around $250,000. Now assuming your scholarship at the school back east does not include things like housing, food, etc., that is still a savings of well over $200,000. That is quite a sizable chunk of change.
 

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yo....free dental school....conversation over! haha you kidding?! that's awesome congrats. take your 250000 and run. debt free is the dream! easy choice.
 
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Is the full scholarship for one year or all four years? If all four years then take it and run away from Kalifornia fast. You can always come back to Cali for your specialty program. Use the $250K save to buy yourself a few foreclosed properties next year.
 

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Use the $250K save to buy yourself a few foreclosed properties next year.
Or buy an existing dental practice. To the OP, If I were you, I would pick the school that offers full scholarship. I think UCLA is the most awesome dental school in the US but I don't think it's worth spending $250k. UCLA is in a very affluent area, you will have hard times finding dental patients to fulfill the clinical requirements.

I've worked as an associate orthodontist at several CA offices for more than 7 years. Most places don't really care where you graduate…all they need from you are the copies of your dental license, driver license, malpractice insurance and CPR card.
 

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I can only speak for myself, but even at this early stage in my dental career I'm starting to feel a bit of anxiety about the massive bills that I'll be paying in the future -- student loans, of course, but also the costs of buying/starting a practice and the price of a house. The latter two are not needs, per se, but they are very important to the sort of life that I'd want to build. And let's not even get started about the costs of educating children...

One big debt out of the way would make me very happy!
 

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I would take the scholarship school, if I were you.
OTOH the choice of school depends on what ur future plans are- General Practice/residency. If GP, it doesnt matter where you go. If residency, UCLA may be a better choice. Or you can come back to CA after DDS for residency.
The thing though is I don't know which school I am comparing to UCLA? If it is UPENN/Harvard great! if not take the scholarship school especially if it is for all the 4 years.

Either way good luck and congrats! :D
 

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UConn (did I guess correctly?) with full ride vs UCLA! No question, go to UConn unless you get a fat scholarship elsewhere. California is not a different planet, you can move to and from. Plus, you could go to UConn for 4 years and do a GPR/AEGD and not have to take the California boards if I'm not mistaken. What travel barrier are you talking about? You'd better hope the connections you *hope* to make at UCLA are worth 250K plus interest.
 

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I will have my connections established in California, which will be great if I'm a specialist.
HAHAHAHA. I love how every predent thinks they are going to specialize. :laugh:

Make it though dental school. specializing isnt everything.

I would go for the full scholarship. You can always move back to Cali. Besides its good for a person to experience the different types of @$$ holes that are in the US. it will help you later on in your life.
I grew up in Cali, went to undergrad in Cali, then went to Grad school outside of Cali, but for dental school i chose the east coast, instead of Cali, why. Because there is more out there than California. will i end up back on the west coast yes, but in the mean time i am experiencing everything that makes up the US.

Besides a full ride to a school is worth it. if you graduate from a dental school you will still be called a dentist regardless. You can always make connections anywhere you go.
 

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Just a question... How is it possible to get a full scholarship to dental school besides the military scholarship? Are they common to get?
 

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I go to a good school but one that is very expensive, and I would take a scholarship to a school that was terrible in a location that I hated if it meant being debt free. Take the money and run!!!!! :soexcited:
 

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Take the scholarship, definitely. It's not even a question. You will have many expenses once you graduate. Not having loans would be great.
 
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What's the deal, are you a minority or something? I had a friend who was cuban who had a full ride to my school. Had I known, I would have sat in a tanning bed for two weeks before my interview and told em I was whatever race they wanted me to be. If they're going to give you something like that don't even think twice!!!

It's like saying your dream house cost 400K but this guy I know is willing to give you a 300K house... which you can turn around and sell and make pure profit. Not having to pay 200-300K with interest coming out of school will put you 10 years ahead financially of all other dental school grads your age. If you turn it down, you should kick your own ass. I mean this in the nicest way possible.

Good luck.
 

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I'm beginning to wonder if this thread is even for real...
Yes, it's for real. I knew two who had 4 years and one who had 3 years paid for; these are not academic nor military scholarships. There are also minority-based scholarships (Asian don't count).

You can get the Cali license by taking the WREB or an automatic license by credential w/ 5 years practice experience.
 

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Yeah, it's a scholarship for underrepresented minorities in the health field.
 

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I am torn between two schools, getting a full scholarship from a dental school across the country vs. my top choice, UCLA. I'm from California and in the future want to practice and live in CA. I have heard that it is difficult for graduates from the east coast to find a job in CA, is this true?

Aside from that I would need to make a 1 year commitment to the state in the east coast. If I go to UCLA, I will have my connections established in California, which will be great if I'm a specialist.

:confused: Any advice?

Thanks.
Hands down, take the full scholarship. Any school you go to will prepare you well, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO DO THE WORK AND LEARN. Do not pass this opportunity. You will kick yourself in the butt later on when you have to make those big monthly payments 4 years from now.

Good luck.
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Why in these posts do the OPs never comment again. Surely they should be saying 'okay I get it I'm a *******, going to UConn now"
 

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Why in these posts do the OPs never comment again. Surely they should be saying 'okay I get it I'm a *******, going to UConn now"
seriously?

Yeah, it's a scholarship for underrepresented minorities in the health field.

vamosbears, are you any closer to a decision? I'm having trouble deciding between two very large cost differences too (although not as gigantic as a full-ride)
 

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I got back and forth on my decision. It's a bit more complicated that most people think. The scholarship only covers tuition and fee, so there is an average of 28k/year...which is not bad. But my concern is that my long time boyfriend is going to law school in California. I have been with him for five years and we plan to get married, so it is difficult to make that choice of being in Connecticut for 5 years. With the average debt being $147,483 at UCLA does not sound that bad as other schools.

Time is running out, so I will make my decision soon.
 

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I got back and forth on my decision. It's a bit more complicated that most people think. The scholarship only covers tuition and fee, so there is an average of 28k/year...which is not bad. But my concern is that my long time boyfriend is going to law school in California. I have been with him for five years and we plan to get married, so it is difficult to make that choice of being in Connecticut for 5 years. With the average debt being $147,483 at UCLA does not sound that bad as other schools.

Time is running out, so I will make my decision soon.
ah i just noticed you're a postbac! me too! i'm in building 10 these days :cool:

wow sounds like a tough decision though. i've talked to a few dentists who tell me not to worry about the $$ and just go wherever you will be happiest. i've also talked to dentists who say to just minimize debt and it doesn't really matter where you go. either way its tough to swallow, though, when the price difference is over 100k. i don't think there's a right or wrong answer. good luck!
 

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I got back and forth on my decision. It's a bit more complicated that most people think. The scholarship only covers tuition and fee, so there is an average of 28k/year...which is not bad. But my concern is that my long time boyfriend is going to law school in California. I have been with him for five years and we plan to get married, so it is difficult to make that choice of being in Connecticut for 5 years. With the average debt being $147,483 at UCLA does not sound that bad as other schools.

Time is running out, so I will make my decision soon.
Well, well! In that case, stay with the boy. Seriously. Unless he can move to Connecticut? Surely law school there would be cheaper when you consider how much you're saving? Is that possible? He could move out there after your first year maybe? But I'd strive to be near him, because long distance relationships are hard, esp when you're in a school like d-school, you won't have time to visit nearly as much as you need to.
 
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Is there a ring on your finger? If not, ditch the dude and save the dough.

Besides, 99% of lawyers are scum. If he's a personal injury lawyer then he falls under that category.
 

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I decided on UCLA!!! YEah! :D
You're cheering because you're going to now be $110K at 8% interest further in debt??? That's assuming UCLAs tuition stays the same but since their budget is in shambles you can expect their tuition to go up drastically as the state pulls out support for higher education. From an economic standpoint, it was an extremely unwise decision but I hope he does end up your life partner as you can't put a pricetag on that. Hopefully your lawyer boyfriend doesn't dump you two months after you get there but if he does send him a bill for the 110K... and give him a good kick in the nutz. Personally if I were you, I would have required a ring to pass up the kind of opporunity that you did. The fact that he didn't propose to you while you were in the midst of your monumental decision does not the boad well for you. Sounds like he'll make a good lawyer.

Regardless, good luck. :xf:
 

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You're cheering because you're going to now be $110K at 8% interest further in debt??? That's assuming UCLAs tuition stays the same but since their budget is in shambles you can expect their tuition to go up drastically as the state pulls out support for higher education. From an economic standpoint, it was an extremely unwise decision but I hope he does end up your life partner as you can't put a pricetag on that. Hopefully your lawyer boyfriend doesn't dump you two months after you get there but if he does send him a bill for the 110K... and give him a good kick in the nutz. Personally if I were you, I would have required a ring to pass up the kind of opporunity that you did. The fact that he didn't propose to you while you were in the midst of your monumental decision does not the boad well for you. Sounds like he'll make a good lawyer.

Regardless, good luck. :xf:
Wow. This kinda sums things up nicely.
 

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You're cheering because you're going to now be $110K at 8% interest further in debt??? That's assuming UCLAs tuition stays the same but since their budget is in shambles you can expect their tuition to go up drastically as the state pulls out support for higher education. From an economic standpoint, it was an extremely unwise decision but I hope he does end up your life partner as you can't put a pricetag on that. Hopefully your lawyer boyfriend doesn't dump you two months after you get there but if he does send him a bill for the 110K... and give him a good kick in the nutz. Personally if I were you, I would have required a ring to pass up the kind of opporunity that you did. The fact that he didn't propose to you while you were in the midst of your monumental decision does not the boad well for you. Sounds like he'll make a good lawyer.

Regardless, good luck. :xf:
You gotta be old school, Doc. It's 200k now (without housing and expenses). Good luck to the OP, despite making the wrong decision (It's not too late though to waste that 1k deposit and save 200k). But well, there's another lucky dude sitting at home or having a beer right now, who is going to get that offer. Lucky him/her.
 

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hey hey Jason!! What up bro!! It's good to see you on SDN!!! This is David Lee!!!
 
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You're cheering because you're going to now be $110K at 8% interest further in debt??? That's assuming UCLAs tuition stays the same but since their budget is in shambles you can expect their tuition to go up drastically as the state pulls out support for higher education. From an economic standpoint, it was an extremely unwise decision but I hope he does end up your life partner as you can't put a pricetag on that. Hopefully your lawyer boyfriend doesn't dump you two months after you get there but if he does send him a bill for the 110K... and give him a good kick in the nutz. Personally if I were you, I would have required a ring to pass up the kind of opporunity that you did. The fact that he didn't propose to you while you were in the midst of your monumental decision does not the boad well for you. Sounds like he'll make a good lawyer.

Regardless, good luck. :xf:
Okay, if she is saying "Yay" to her choice, then apparently that is where she wanted to go: don't criticize her decision and make fun of her boyfriend, there are plenty of different kinds of lawyers, not just trial.

And if she has been in a relationship for five years, then that is most likely a very stable relationship.

Contrary to what everyone seems to think here, money does NOT buy happiness.

Would I have made the same decision? Maybe, maybe not, but it was obviously a tough choice for her, don't rip her for doing what she wanted.
 

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Ever seen a sad person on a jet ski?
Some guy told me once that money can't buy happiness, but it sure can buy a lot of things that will make you happy. Granted, that guy was also trying to talk me into his get rich quick scheme.
 

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Choose the full ride!!! That is awesome. You are among the few. You will get a similar at each school, but leave one school with no debt. And if you feel like you want more education, you could then go into a general practice residency which would help you much more than just choosing a different school!! Good Luck I am jealous!!:thumbup:
 

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Money can't buy happiness... but a mound of debt sure can get you a nice sack of misery.

I love to hear the idealistic, naive predents speak of that nirvana world where money can't buy happiness... I say dig yourself a nice 300-400K hole of debt and then talk to me in 5 years when you want to have a family, buy a house, or purchase a practice and then see the struggle firsthand to payback those loans AND HAVE A LIFE. You're right in that money can't buy happiness but you better believe that it CAN buy you the freedom to choose what you want to do and not what you have to do. This shouldn't be underestimated and an extra 100K in debt before you ever even earn a dime is not something to just blow off. You start to question every pizza you ever ordered in school when you realize that pizza costs you 3x's as much. That's ok, I was ignorant once too.
 

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Money can't buy happiness... but a mound of debt sure can get you a nice sack of misery.

I love to hear the idealistic, naive predents speak of that nirvana world where money can't buy happiness... I say dig yourself a nice 300-400K hole of debt and then talk to me in 5 years when you want to have a family, buy a house, or purchase a practice and then see the struggle firsthand to payback those loans AND HAVE A LIFE. You're right in that money can't buy happiness but you better believe that it CAN buy you the freedom to choose what you want to do and not what you have to do. This shouldn't be underestimated and an extra 100K in debt before you ever even earn a dime is not something to just blow off. You start to question every pizza you ever ordered in school when you realize that pizza costs you 3x's as much. That's ok, I was ignorant once too.
well rest assured some of us do listen to our elders and hopefully learn from their wisdom
 

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I this is a no brainer. take the full ride. Do you really want to throw away 3 BMW M3s?
 
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