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I got my score today, and it was disappointing. I got 130/123/124/127/504.

What was really surprising was on the AAMC sample test two days before, I scored 71%/83%/73%/89%, which on reddit corresponds to a 126/128/127/128/509. I'm not surprised I did better in the first section; I was being distracted by my family when I did it. Also the week before, I scored 510 on the AAMC scored test.

It was honestly a pacing thing and halfway through the CARS section I thought I was running out of time and started rushing. I guess it messed me up on the bio section too. I am confident I could do better, and I'm wondering if I should retake on aug 20 and receive grades back sept 20. Or if I should just think about applying again next cycle.

I am a NC resident, and I have already applied to East Carolina University. I wanted my application to be verified, so I could apply faster. I guess there's no backing out now right? The only thing I have left to do is meet my premed advisor, and get a committee letter. Then, my application is complete minus secondaries. My GPA is 3.5 and I have lots of clinical experience as a medical scribe and volunteer at a free clinic.

So should I do a fast retake and keep applying or delay for a year. No DO or Caribbean schools.
 

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I got my score today, and it was disappointing. I got 130/123/124/127/504.

What was really surprising was on the AAMC sample test two days before, I scored 71%/83%/73%/89%, which on reddit corresponds to a 126/128/127/128/509. I'm not surprised I did better in the first section; I was being distracted by my family when I did it. Also the week before, I scored 510 on the AAMC scored test.

It was honestly a pacing thing and halfway through the CARS section I thought I was running out of time and started rushing. I guess it messed me up on the bio section too. I am confident I could do better, and I'm wondering if I should retake on aug 20 and receive grades back sept 20. Or if I should just think about applying again next cycle.

I am a NC resident, and I have already applied to East Carolina University. I wanted my application to be verified, so I could apply faster. I guess there's no backing out now right? The only thing I have left to do is meet my premed advisor, and get a committee letter. Then, my application is complete minus secondaries. My GPA is 3.5 and I have lots of clinical experience as a medical scribe and volunteer at a free clinic.

So should I do a fast retake and keep applying or delay for a year. No DO or Caribbean schools.
Rule 1: Take a Breath

Delay, rushing a retake especially this late in the cycle is unlikely to have much impact. prep again for either later this fall or early next and work on timing and discipline
 

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As described above rushing an MCAT retake this late is not a good idea. You already have one score that's close to 1 SD below MD average two low scores as opposed to 1 certainly wouldn't help to say the least.

You have some chance at Brody who traditionally interviews half of NC applicants. Brody is also traditionally a school that takes about 40% of their class as reapplicanta suggesting they are reapp friendly. Let that be your one app this cycle and see how it goes. Study hard for a retake next cycle if MD is your end goal.
 
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I think I will apply to a few schools where I have a chance like wake forest and George Washington. So the point of not retaking the mcat is because it's too late and multiple retakes look bad? Should I hold back on applying to schools?
 

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I think I will apply to a few schools where I have a chance like wake forest and George Washington. So the point of not retaking the mcat is because it's too late and multiple retakes look bad? Should I hold back on applying to schools?
If you get another disappointing MCAT score then you'll feel compelled to take it a third time, and nobody wants to go through an application cycle with three MCAT attempts. Grapes is right, go ahead and apply to ECU this year. They only take NC residents, and you're 504 is actually slightly above the median for their applicants.

Wake and GWU are private schools with large applicant pools, and both have matriculant medians around the national average (i.e. 6-8 points above yours). You are unlikely to get traction at either place.
 
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But that wasn't the question. how is 2 bad? if i get a good score then that's gotta be a good thing. if it is the sameish then I will retake in a few months after reviewing and studying thoroughly, but I really think it could work as long as I pace myself on the test. Everything is still fresh on my mind. I hate to feel like I am giving up when I only messed up on one section in which I usually do well. I'm going to be a reapplicant if I get a low mcat score, so I will have something to improve on between now and the next app cycle. I'm just not seeing why I shouldn't.
 

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I think I will apply to a few schools where I have a chance like wake forest and George Washington. So the point of not retaking the mcat is because it's too late and multiple retakes look bad? Should I hold back on applying to schools?
To add to @Med Ed comments

1) It is too late in the cycle and if you were to take it again, the score wouldnt be there until near Oct. Schools do not have to wait for a planned MCAT nor would they and you may simply get screened out prior.
2) Taking an MCAT under those self-imposed, same-cycle retakes are rarely successful and simply go to reinforce an already weak application
3) In many schools, an informal rule is max three MCAT attempts before they simply will no longer consider you . By taking a rushed 2nd MCAT without prep time for a very long shot of it having any impact puts all your eggs in a possible 3rd attempt. That is a large risk
4) Trying to apply someplace where you have little chance simply makes you a reapplicant for next year
5) Is you goal to get into medical school or to get into medical school quickly? If you need another cycle to improve MCAT and your application in general then take it. You are planning to spend the next 30-40 years of your life in medicine, so investing a year to make sure you get in is worthwhile.
 
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Yes 2 bad attempts is worse than 1. 3 bad attempts is worse than 2. It's the same logic behind retaking classes: getting an A on a first attempt is far superior to D the first time with an A only on the retake. Same in all realms of life. Screwing up twice is definitely worse than just once. It's fairly intuitive.

All scores are always visible. The more bad scores you have the harder it is to say your highest score on a later attempt is truly representative of your capabilities and not the previous poor attempts. You can't just keep retaking the MCAT and only expect the highest score to matter

Wakes 10th percentile is around a 30. You are at 27-28. Trying to beat out 15k apps with <10th percentile stats at GW isn't likely to be a fruitful strategy either
 
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Following this thread
I got a 504 (127/124/125/128)- a little more balanced than OP's score, CA resident lots of research and a 3.64 cgpa
Where can I apply?
 
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Are you looking to stay in California or are you open to other states?
Would preferably like to stay in California , I know the UCs will be a reach for me with my MCAT but I believe my research might help get to the door (abstracts, presentations, publication, LOR) so I plan on applying to them. I will also be applying to Western and Tourco-CA for DO schools

do you have any recommendations for other MD schools? I'm open to OOS
 

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3.5 and 504?

Sorry to say it, but if you apply this year only to MD schools you're likely going to be reapplying again. Keep that in mind
 

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Yes, the UCs will probably be a reach, but you can always see. Having DO backups is definitely a good idea.

You might want to try OOS private schools that have smaller applicant pools. Generally speaking, a 504 could be a tough sell for a public OOS school. It might also be overlooked by schools that have tons of applicants. Do you have the MSAR?
 

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Is a 123 in CARS but 509 MCAT be useless to apply to MD schools?
I would say it has a rather negative impact and can easily overshadow the rest of your application
 
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I would say it has a rather negative impact and can easily overshadowed the rest of your application
Will a 124 in cars get me screened out at schools?
I have a 504 overall (127/124/125/128) I know it's not the best score but it's pretty balanced and I have impressive ECs so I'd like to give the application cycle a try
 

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Will a 124 in cars get me screened out at schools?
I have a 504 overall (127/124/125/128) I know it's not that best score
at some schools it may
 

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I would say it has a rather negative impact and can easily overshadowed the rest of your application
Not to be rude, but that's not at all true. A 123 would easily get screened out at many schools. Luckily they aren't applying in Canada where it would prevent them from applying at every school except a couple....
But I would absolutely rewrite a 123 because even a 124 would probably prevent a good number of the screen-outs
 

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Not to be rude, but that's not at all true. A 123 would easily get screened out at many schools. Luckily they aren't applying in Canada where it would prevent them from applying at every school except a couple....
But I would absolutely rewrite a 123 because even a 124 would probably prevent a good number of the screen-outs
Sorry? My statement was saying it would be a big negative implying the screening out
 
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My colleague also applying has a 517, but a 123 in CARS... Should I tell her she won't have a chance due to being auto-screened by a computer, as you say?
I'm not an adcom so I cant' tell you what she should do, but yes, if I were her I would re-write without question. There's basically nowhere she can go but up
 

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Any DO school.


Following this thread
I got a 504 (127/124/125/128)- a little more balanced than OP's score, CA resident lots of research and a 3.64 cgpa
Where can I apply?
 
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Should I apply to any other schools? Like UNC?

So, I'm planning on a postbacc for the next year and an mcat retake in Jan. Should I even bother applying to more than ecu this cycle?