skeptical about "shortage"

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1) from a foreign grad i know there ever over 2000 people takin the foreign pharmacy eq. exam

2) new sch like lecomm

3) higher applications from the alumni letter at rutgers theis apps shot up 50 per cent

i think we need to limit the number of foreign and restrict the amount of students admitted
 
Skeptical?

You worked for a retail chain in the last 3 years? Tried to get vaca coverage?

Bring 'em in from wherever...get my girl a weekend OFF!!
 
The last time that I was working retail on a full-time basis (summer of 02) there was a shortage of 17 full-time pharmacist positions in JUST the lansing, MI area. Currently there is a 6,000+ plus shortage nationwide, and I've read estimates in various magazine or journals that predict a 10,000 to 20,000 pharmacist shortage in the next 10 years or so. Considering most people here will be out of school in 4 years, I would say that they have nothing to worry about. And is it just you, or does a new pharmacy open about every week in your area?

It's been discussed before on this forum (use the search feature), but I don't think that chains would be paying $50+/hour, offering sign-on bonuses of 10k/year, and paying interns $15-$30/hour if they could find a pharmacist anywhere. Even at my store, we had about 4 months with NO permanent pharmacists, only floaters who were usually very well compensated and made their own hours.

As for new schools.. who cares? We NEED new schools and a school that produces 80 pharmD's a year is no threat to anyone, but rather a benefit. Have any idea how many pharmacists retire per year?

Same goes for number of apps. It was HUGE everywhere this year, but does little to change the school's class, other than to make admission more competitive. Look next year, and I bet you'll see applications SKYROCKET because of pharmCAS, the economy, etc. I think that a lot of schools are accepting between 10-20% of their applicants. NOT a whole heck of a lot.

Why would you want to work in a pharmacy with too little help? It's hell. Your job will be safe for years and years. People always need healthcare.

Jd
 
Why would you want to work in a pharmacy with too little help? It's hell. Your job will be safe for years and years. People always need healthcare.

Jd

Amen to that. There's been a shortage in every pharmacy i've ever spent time in both in-patient and retail. We've never discussed it, but requiring the pharmD and getting rid of the BS is probably gonna reduce the number of pharmacists generated, so i can only see the problem accelerating rather than mitigating.

I love the red-queen hypothesis in genetics, but it works well in pharmacy: You're gonna have increase the number of pharmacists just to keep up with the increase in scripts. Have you seen how many meds the docs squeeze on a piece of paper for these over 70 yr old pts? I've counted 8 before.

Right now i'm even more worried about a tech shortage.
 
Originally posted by jdpharmd?
And is it just you, or does a new pharmacy open about every week in your area?
Jd

While driving around today I counted 5 new pharmacies and 2 pharmacies under construction within a 15 or so mile radius.
 
Even the doom and gloom pharmacist i work with predicts the shortage is gonna get worse. Baby boomers and a shortage of pharmacists to fill slots for retiring pharmacists he attributes it to. He somehow, came up with a curve that predicts a shortage for the next ten years, then a surplus, and then a huge shortage.
 
I'll admit to not being as pessimistic about the long-term outlook of retail pharmacy as I was just a few short months ago. Las Vegas is a rapidly growing city. You can drive out to the new areas and see commercial centers being built, and see signs like "Coming soon: CVS /pharmacy" all over the place. It's not uncommon to see a new Wags then see a Rite Aid catercorner to it in the same intersection. Seemingly wherever you find one pharmacy being built, you'll find at least one more from another chain being built nearby.

It's kinda funny, we talk about the looming surge in patient population when the "baby boomers" retire...that's the same surge that'll further the shortage in pharmacists since the baby boomer pharmacists will also start retiring or at least "semi-retiring" by working part-time hours.

More pharmacies being built, increasing patient population, more retired pharmacists...the future is much brighter than I really expected it to be.
 
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