smw deferred

[WMN]

Hey SMW
Where and why have you decided to defer? Just curious.

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[SMW]

How'd you find out I deferred without finding out the school? I think the only place I've posted it is in the Columbia thread. Anyway, I just wanted another year off to work and make money and lead a normal life after this hellish application year. Columbia's the only acceptance I'm holding at the moment ( I'm declining my other 4 acceptances), and Dean Frantz granted my deferral request very quickly. I'm still interested in UW and OHSU and possibly a couple other schools.

 

[WMN]

I found a comment in the classmates thread. You said something about not being able to post there because you deferred. I hope you get in off the WWAMI waitlist and good luck with the year off if that is what you decide to do.

 

[A. Caveman]

smw, have you been rejected anywhere post-interview?

i got one and since obviously you're a great interviewee, i'm trying to see if that's maybe my problem. i figure if even you've gotten a no post-interview, then maybe i'm not as bad as i would assume i am otherwise. help

 

[brandonite]

Sorry to intrude on this Alaskan thread, but will you apply to WU or OHSU again next year if you don't get in? Or is that against the rules of deferral...

I've been waiting to go to med school for the past decade, so I can't imagine waiting another year, but good luck to you nonetheless!

 

[SMW]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by A. Caveman:
•smw, have you been rejected anywhere post-interview? •••••Not so far (she says, knocking on wood), but I'm sure it's only a matter of time. Still waiting on 4 schools.

•••quote:•••Originally posted by brandonite:
•Sorry to intrude on this Alaskan thread, but will you apply to WU or OHSU again next year if you don't get in? Or is that against the rules of deferral... •••••I'm trying to figure that out myself. Columbia didn't make me sign anything. A few people have suggested that I reapply to UW if I don't get in off the waitlist............I'm as confused as you are.

 

[brandonite]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by SMW:
•I'm trying to figure that out myself. Columbia didn't make me sign anything. A few people have suggested that I reapply to UW if I don't get in off the waitlist............I'm as confused as you are. •••••<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Well, I dunno. You're in an interesting position. Because you don't really want to ask Columbia, but if it is against the rules, and both schools find out, then you could be left with no acceptances...

I suppose you could ask Columbia. If you made it clear you were just applying to your home school for money reasons, then they might be OK with it. Hard to say, though...

 

[lilycat]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by SMW:
•I'm trying to figure that out myself. Columbia didn't make me sign anything. A few people have suggested that I reapply to UW if I don't get in off the waitlist............I'm as confused as you are. •••••Good for you for deferring -- might as well enjoy your time as much as possible now.

As for reapplying while you are deferring an acceptance -- that is a big no-no, and pretty much a guaranteed way to lose your spot at Columbia. When you defer, most schools ask you to reapply EDP the following year, essentially as a formality. Of course, as with a normal EDP application, your commitment to attend that school is binding if accepted, and you already know that you will be accepted beforehand. So basically, if Columbia finds out you applied elsewhere, they are totally within their rights to yank your acceptance, and the odds of them finding out are very high -- it doesn't seem worth the risk. Plus, it's just a crappy thing to do to the school anyways.

 

[SMW]

Columbia didn't ask me to apply EDP next year, just to send them a letter in February saying I still plan to matriculate that year.

 

[mpp]

I had the pleasure to meet SMW and I must say that a big part of her success is that she just exudes confidence. I only briefly spoke with her in the admissions waiting room and could tell that she means business while the rest of us were sitting around feeling like pretend-adults in our dress-up clothes. I can only imagine her during the interview -- a complete professional.

Congratulations on all your accomplishments thus far and the multitude of successes that are sure to follow...

 

[lilycat]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by SMW:
•Columbia didn't ask me to apply EDP next year, just to send them a letter in February saying I still plan to matriculate that year.•••••Even if they don't ask you to reapply EDP, I still don't think you are technically allowed to reapply while holding a deferred acceptance, based on everything I've researched previously. Think about it from the school's perspective -- why would it be in their interest to allow you to do that? How is it fair to them? However, to be certain about this, just ask. If I remember correctly, you went to Stanford -- get your money's worth out of those years of tuition and send an email to Ruby Mason or Verity Powell (she's no longer an official premed advisor, but she still knows a lot about the process, and if you are nice about it, she will help you). I'm about 90% sure they will know about Columbia's policies off-hand, and if they don't, they will probably be willing to email Dr. Frantz for you (so you can stay somewhat anonymous in all of this).

 

[brandonite]

I think it's fair to say that she is an extraordinary individual... I have not met her, but just from the few PMs/posts we have exchanged, I have been very impressed. She has been by far the most helpful person to myself here on SDN, and that is quite an amazing feat when you consider the number of amazingly helpful people...

And, she knows what dyspeptic means. :wink:

 

[A. Caveman]

wow. say it ain't so SMW. what DOES that weird word mean?? i have also been impressed with her vocabulary. she must have studied hard for the SAT's (joke).

but although i find her to be very professional and a very trustworthy, no-bull**** person, i think that posting with some Flava adds a little color to your SDN personality. i see SMW like a good 1960's movie--black and white. but in a suit...a power suit. you go girl!

 

[SMW]

mpp, you are too kind!! Whatever I was exuding, it didn't seem to work any magic on the UW interviewers! I was so exhausted that day, after interviews on the 2 previous days. I hope you didn't think me antisocial with my nose in my book.

 

[SMW]

Awww, brandonite, you're embarrassing me!

A. CaveMan, you're becoming downright cuddly in your old age. :wink: But I'll have you know I wear a RED shell with my black power suit!!! Black and white......hmmmmmph!!

dys-pep-tic \ 1 : relating to or having dyspepsia (indigestion) 2 : showing a sour disposition

 

[USeF]

SMW, congrats on having a great acceptance and being able to take the option of deferring. My parents pretty much saw my senior year of college as a 'defer' year since I was eligible to get in my school's 7-year BA/MD program. I might just be rebellious and take the year off anyway, but they are promising to pay FULL tuition no matter where I go in appreciation for staying at the nearby state school and never asking for a car.

a good friend got into 2 DO schools last year and no MD. He deferred the DO acceptance, applied again to MD and got in last month. I dont know if he told interviewers he got in DO the year before, but it worked out for him. He was worried for a while that they might find out, but realized it was definitely what he wanted to do.

so what does SMW stand for? your initials?

 

[brandonite]

I used dyspeptic today. It was my vocabulary word of the day. :wink:

And, it used to tell you what SMW stood for when she sent you a PM. I think she fixed that, because it doesn't anymore. Anyway, I do know. But I promise I won't tell.

But, you deserve the praise! I've passed around all those URL's you've sent me to all my premed friends who are interviewing this year, and from all of us, THANKS!

 

[SMW]

You're welcome, brandonite, and thanks to everyone for the all the kind words.

Lilycat, I didn't want you to think I was ignoring your advice -- I will get in touch with Ruby and find out the legalities before making a decision on whether to reapply to UW, if I don't get in off the waitlist this year.

 

[otter]

Hi SMW - Make sure that Columbia doesn't find out that you'd like to ask that question about applying to other schools while holding their spot. If you're going to talk to your Stanford advisor, hopefully she'll have the answer. But then having her email Columbia on your behalf (even without her mentioning your name) might put you at risk. After all, you've got to be the only person from Stanford who has asked to defer the admission to Columbia this year. If I were you, I would not communicate any of this with Columbia, directly or indirectly. You don't want to make them upset. So, all I wanna say is, be careful...

 

[SMW]

Thanks for looking out for me, otter.

 

[lilycat]

SMW -- no worries -- you're of course free to take whatever advice you want. I wasn't sure if you've been communicating with Ruby or the others this year, but I know a lot of alums forget that they can still use these services even after graduation.

As for having the advisors find out for you -- look at this way, if you are seriously considering trying to reapply while you have deferred Columbia, you are going to need to make sure you can do this without jeapordizing your Columbia spot, one way or the other. You've already been accepted to Columbia -- I'm about 99% sure they can't reject you at this point for asking a question. If you email Frantz personally, you could even just make it sort of vague, like "What are my responsibilities by deferring -- any additional paperwork, anything I can or can't do, etc." Also, I'm sure you're not the only Stanford student who has been accepted to Columbia -- if Ruby or someone emails for you, they can just pose a hypothetical -- "I have a student who is considering attending, but wants to know about your policy on deferrals." They might think it's you, but again, THEY'VE ALREADY ACCEPTED YOU. The worst case scenario is probably that they would say they don't want to grant you a deferral after all. I think this concern about "Make sure that Columbia doesn't find out your asking about this" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> , is a little over-dramatic. Since YOU'VE BEEN ACCEPTED, it seems really, really unlikely that they would rescind your acceptance because you asked a question. If they don't want you to do it, they'll be really explicit that you aren't allowed to reapply while deferring their acceptance and then let you make your decision.

Anyways, the best first step is probably to call or email Ruby or Verity -- they can either answer your question directly, or advise you if you could possibly incur some kind of wrath from Columbia by inquiring about this further. Again, I really doubt it, but the advisors should give you definite info.