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as you can guess by the title, i wasnt successful at getting a spot in the match this year. Im still very committed to the field, and im determined to get a spot for next year. I know i cant be alone out there, and I am hoping that there might be some good suggestions about how to proceed over the next few months. I might be asking the same 'ol questions again, but what other resources are out there other than residentswap? do i go through ERAS again?

also i noticed that some radiology programs list having "advanced" spots and others have "categorical" spots. do the categorical spots mean that the program has PGY1-PGY5 spots, and the advanced means PGY2-PGY5?
Do any of these categorical programs offer PGY2 spots through ERAS that would start July 1, 2011?

thanks in advance, and i hope any answers that are provided will benefit more than just me.
 

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as you can guess by the title, i wasnt successful at getting a spot in the match this year. Im still very committed to the field, and im determined to get a spot for next year. I know i cant be alone out there, and I am hoping that there might be some good suggestions about how to proceed over the next few months. I might be asking the same 'ol questions again, but what other resources are out there other than residentswap? do i go through ERAS again?

also i noticed that some radiology programs list having "advanced" spots and others have "categorical" spots. do the categorical spots mean that the program has PGY1-PGY5 spots, and the advanced means PGY2-PGY5?
Do any of these categorical programs offer PGY2 spots through ERAS that would start July 1, 2011?

thanks in advance, and i hope any answers that are provided will benefit more than just me.
I'm sorry to hear that you didn't match. Have you checked out the Aunt Minnie forums? There have been some posts similar to yours and people with prior experience in this have been giving some very good advice.

You have to register to view the forums, but there is generally more activity there than here. Good luck!
 

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If you're into radiology for the money, then thank your lucky stars you didn't match. The healthcare bill has a specific section that looks to cut reimbursement to diagnostic imaging.
 

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If you're into radiology for the money, then thank your lucky stars you didn't match. The healthcare bill has a specific section that looks to cut reimbursement to diagnostic imaging.
I've been interested in Radiology since the beginning of my Undergrad years and have looked at this forum since then... That was about 8 years ago and people have been repeating these same "doomsday" statements on this forum since then. The fact of the matter; medicine is only relying on Radiologists more and more, unless we go completely socialized and the government salaries all physicians, Radiologists will be doing pretty well...
 

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I've been interested in Radiology since the beginning of my Undergrad years and have looked at this forum since then... That was about 8 years ago and people have been repeating these same "doomsday" statements on this forum since then. The fact of the matter; medicine is only relying on Radiologists more and more, unless we go completely socialized and the government salaries all physicians, Radiologists will be doing pretty well...
Everything is tied to reimbursement rates. The government doesn't have to salary all physicians. They simply have to decrease Medicare reimbursement and watch private insurers slowly follow suit. As a physician, your income is limited by your time and efficiency.
The old doom and gloom stories were not on the level of a major healthcare reform. There will be cuts coming across the board, but it seems that diagnostic imaging will be especially targeted. Now, I'm not saying radiologists will start making FP money, but the days of cruising for $350k are gone.
 

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I've been interested in Radiology since the beginning of my Undergrad years and have looked at this forum since then... That was about 8 years ago and people have been repeating these same "doomsday" statements on this forum since then. The fact of the matter; medicine is only relying on Radiologists more and more, unless we go completely socialized and the government salaries all physicians, Radiologists will be doing pretty well...
Absolutely. Look at other fields and they're all crying out on how radiologists are going to be stealing stuff from them (interventional procedures, future virtual colonoscopy, etc.). I don't foresee one of the most competitive and high paid specialties crashing down into obscurity any time soon.
 

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Absolutely. Look at other fields and they're all crying out on how radiologists are going to be stealing stuff from them (interventional procedures, future virtual colonoscopy, etc.). I don't foresee one of the most competitive and high paid specialties crashing down into obscurity any time soon.
It's competitive because it's highly paid. And it's highly paid, because of current reimbursement rates. As I stated in the post right above yours, if you bothered to read it, radiology can expand their diagnostic horizon, yet get their compensations cut. Everything is tied to reimbursement rates, which means to maintain your status quo income, you'll have to work more.
Money and lifestyle. Pick one.
 

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as you can guess by the title, i wasnt successful at getting a spot in the match this year. Im still very committed to the field, and im determined to get a spot for next year. I know i cant be alone out there, and I am hoping that there might be some good suggestions about how to proceed over the next few months. I might be asking the same 'ol questions again, but what other resources are out there other than residentswap? do i go through ERAS again?

also i noticed that some radiology programs list having "advanced" spots and others have "categorical" spots. do the categorical spots mean that the program has PGY1-PGY5 spots, and the advanced means PGY2-PGY5?
Do any of these categorical programs offer PGY2 spots through ERAS that would start July 1, 2011?

thanks in advance, and i hope any answers that are provided will benefit more than just me.
So.. to get this thread back on track...

A couple of my "backups" were:

1. To do a year of research, hopefully in the Radiology field, and during this year try to get around to the different radiology programs and get some facetime. I'm not sure if this would actually work or not? I met one girl who was doing this during my MSIII year, so that's why I had it as one of my backup plans... She was at a Radiology program for a week, as a "visiting student." I don't think you lose your year of eligibility so you can still apply as a PGY-1, if i'm not mistsaken.

2. Hopefully someone can clarify this... I think the poster is a D.O. student, if a D.O. does an MD internship year and then reapply's for Radiology after the MD intern year, can they apply as an incoming PGY-I to a D.O. radiology program? This was another of my backup ideas, because if the MD intern year doesn't use up your D.O. intern eligibility you would have a better shot at reapplying D.O. if you could apply for the intern class since they are all linked. Otherwise, you have to hope that someone either drops out or a program adds a spot for you (which neither one are very likely).

Just a couple ideas for thought...:idea:
 
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Im not sure as to the rules regarding MD vs DO intern years... I went ahead and took a spot in a DO intern year. I was under the impression at this point I am now unable to do a DO radiology program unless i transfered into an open PGY 2 spot next summer. Therefore i will be focusing my search on MD programs. I dont know the rules regarding students doing an MD transitional year being eligible for a DO rads program with an integrated internship. Its an interesting idea...

Ive definitely heard talk about doing research years, or taking time off or other strategies that involve NOT being a resident / intern for a year. I dont dislike the idea, but i need money, health insurance and i need a way to keep some medical skills sharp. From that angle, an internship was the only thing that made sense. Any idea how one would go about having a paycheck and insurance along with some medical connection without being an intern? do research positions pay? or does it depend on where and who youre working with?