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Hi. I was checking on Sports Medicine Fellowships and looked at some programs. Some of them offer a degree at the completion of the one yr (CAQ in Sports Medicine) and some do not offer a degree. WHat does that mean? Thanks in advance

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It doesn't really mean anything, most of the time. Others with more experience in this area can correct me, but I'm pretty sure it isn't very meaningful.

FP doesn't really have the well-developed system of fellowships that IM has. Doing an FP fellowship doesn't garner you the kind of income and hospital privledges you can expect from a IM fellowship like cards or GI or whatever. Often you spend extra time in the fellowship, and then go right back to what you were doing...but now you're better at one segment of FP medicine, according to your CV. I know some hospitals won't honor a CAQ for C-section privledges - they don't see it in the same light as the certificate you get for completing a IM fellowship. They are more likely to simply honor the number of sections you've done rather than the fact that you have a CAQ. After an IM fellowship, you're a specialist. After a FP fellowship, you're still a generalist (in some people's eyes).

That said, the CAQ is something you can put on your wall for the young Michelle Qwans to see when they venture into your office. Organizations that may hire you as their sports doc will be receptive to it, and just maybe it will give you an edge over a similarly qualified doc w/o the certificate. Emphasis, however, on the maybe.

So, the decision to do an FP fellowship should probably focus on the kind of experience you can get rather than whether or not you'll get a CAQ. In the end, the CAQ won't really help you much.
 
secretwave101 said:
After a FP fellowship, you're still a generalist (in some people's eyes). So, the decision to do an FP fellowship should probably focus on the kind of experience you can get rather than whether or not you'll get a CAQ. In the end, the CAQ won't really help you much.

from what i've learned after asking around, i think this poster is correct. the only thing i wanted to add is that it will definitely help if you want to go into academia (residency director / residency faculty), if they need faculty to teach their resident sports medicine. you'll have an edge over other applicants...but then again, you'll have that edge as long as you do the fellowship. having the formal CAQ (or not) shouldn't make the difference.

good luck! :D - sports med is awesome!
 
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Thanks for the information. Do you know how much FP with a sports med fellowship might earn? I have seen different numbers..Would you earn more if you went thru IM instead of FP? Thanks again for the info
ramonaquimby said:
from what i've learned after asking around, i think this poster is correct. the only thing i wanted to add is that it will definitely help if you want to go into academia (residency director / residency faculty), if they need faculty to teach their resident sports medicine. you'll have an edge over other applicants...but then again, you'll have that edge as long as you do the fellowship. having the formal CAQ (or not) shouldn't make the difference.

good luck! :D - sports med is awesome!
 
An old and tired question constantly posed on these boards, and constantly receiving varied and far-ranging answers. It TOTALLY depends on how good you are, how many people trust and like you, how many people refer to you, where you are in the country, what kind of procedures you offer...etc, etc.

Bottom line - you'll make money. In general, not substantially more than the average family doc. Not less than an IM sports med doc. You'll lose money by spending an extra year in training. Depending on about 1 gajillion career choices after the fellowship, you may or may not make up for that lost year.
 
But, to make you feel better, I found this on some infallible website:

Low (1st years), Med (>3 years), High - U.S. National Average, after expenses

FP (with OB) $182,000 $204,000 $241,000
FP (w/o OB) $161,000 $135,000 $239,000
FP - Sports Medicine $ 152,000 $208,000 $363,000
FP - Urgent Care $ 128,000 $198,000 $299,000

http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/physician-salaries.htm
 
Anyone know where I can go to compare different sports medicine fellowships? I've looked at the homepages for both MD and DO sports med organizations, and they seem pretty sparse on info. Is there much difference between the MD and DO fellowships in curriculum or quality? Any programs stand out? Any info would be appreciated!
 
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