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Our practice is looking to hire a dermatopathologist, and we wanted to know what's a competitive figure for the midwest. Can anyone help?
Starting salary for dermatopathologist?
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300k I guess. See if anyone applies. 1/10th to 1/15th what a top notch academic earns seems reasonable
300 sounds about right, depending on productivity.
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Man I been working west and east coast you offer 300K and people will be running over themselves to take the job...
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I would think $250k would be more than competitive. But it also depends on the situation and the future of the job. If it's a straight salary position where there is not much opportunity for income growth then it would probably have to be higher. But if it's a partnership track then $200k-$250k is more reasonable.
what is the real salary?
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It depends on the practice. Those numbers are not wrong for some places I know personally. Salary is only one part of the equation so you have to be careful about presuming that a place that starts at "only $250k" is a worse job. I am not dermpath trained but the ones I know have started anywhere from less than $250k to more than $300k. Interestingly, the higher ones are often the jobs that sound less promising in the sense of their long term payoff.
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There's your problem. Go work in the midwest with the OP!
But what if you want to work in a place like this????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwE-SLnLkqY
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That is the way that it always is -- if they are dangling a big carrot, there's a reason for it. If they are not offering much, there are two potential reasons for it -- either there is not enough business to make $$$... or they don't have to offer **** to attract good candidates.
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I'm the OP.
We were thinking $250K for this position, just outside Chicago (about half an hour). There is not enough derm work to keep the dermpath occupied full-time, so he would also be signing out general surg path.
The position has great benefits, including paid malpractice and disability insurance, as well as $30K for the 401k (regardless of how much the associate contributes).
Vacation starts at 6 weeks. There is a $10K stipend for conferences, journals, CME, etc.
The applicant would also be eligible for partnership.
So, with benefits, compensation is above $300K for a partnership-track job.
Does that sound pretty reasonable?
We were thinking $250K for this position, just outside Chicago (about half an hour). There is not enough derm work to keep the dermpath occupied full-time, so he would also be signing out general surg path.
The position has great benefits, including paid malpractice and disability insurance, as well as $30K for the 401k (regardless of how much the associate contributes).
Vacation starts at 6 weeks. There is a $10K stipend for conferences, journals, CME, etc.
The applicant would also be eligible for partnership.
So, with benefits, compensation is above $300K for a partnership-track job.
Does that sound pretty reasonable?
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Is this type of package for a recent trainee or someone with experience?
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i'll be graduating in about 3-4 years and think i'd be a great candidate for this position. shall i send my CV?
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Yes! Very reasonable, and very similar to the jobs I was looking almost a year ago.
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This position requires a Board-eligible or Board-certified dermatopathologist.
OK. If you say so. You do realize that I can be correct even though many are offered higher amounts, right? And there are lots of differences out there. Many groups (often the better groups) start lower than $250 but end up higher than the ones that start over $300. But I defer to your vast expertise and knowledge. Congratulations on getting a higher offer if you did, especially since you have posted in the past how abysmal the job market is.
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One thing worth noting is that if you make partner in a general practice group as a dermpath specialist, you will be making no more or less than the other partners even though you might generate more revenue.
The ideal sitch for a dermpath trained person would be to find a dermpath only private practice. You could earn Leboit money in one of those place. remeber you got to think like 50 cent and get rich or die trying.
The ideal sitch for a dermpath trained person would be to find a dermpath only private practice. You could earn Leboit money in one of those place. remeber you got to think like 50 cent and get rich or die trying.
It's not that straightforward though. You might bill for more but you probably get to do only dermpath while the other people in the group take care of the rest of the day to day management, which of course frees you up to do more dermpath and allows you to bill for more. Many of these groups get lots of dermpath because of their association with the rest of the department and/or hospital. So splitting them off is not often as great as it might sound. If everybody in a path group only did work they were billing for there would be a lot of work that didn't get done.
