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What has become of this? I think it's important that this continues! I know this thread is old and kinda disintegrated into back-and-forth arguments. I would love to see this getting stronger and more organized as a movement.
I don't think there is one way to approach this. I don't think you can be too nit-picky. I see this as the way that anti-abortion activists are gaining ground. In addition to attack abortion practice as a whole, they also go after smaller seemingly meaningless or seemingly benign things -- hallways have to be a certain width, women have to go to 2 visits first, women have to give consent a certain number of hours in advanced, having to sit through videos and presentations first -- the end result is that it makes it harder and harder to attain an abortion.
I don't think there is one way to approach this. I don't think you can be too nit-picky. I see this as the way that anti-abortion activists are gaining ground. In addition to attack abortion practice as a whole, they also go after smaller seemingly meaningless or seemingly benign things -- hallways have to be a certain width, women have to go to 2 visits first, women have to give consent a certain number of hours in advanced, having to sit through videos and presentations first -- the end result is that it makes it harder and harder to attain an abortion.
Fighting their calling themselves "doctor" is pretty meaningless if they are only going to turn around and call themselves "board certified dermatologist" (see other thread). While I don't disagree with what you are doing, you are nit-picking. The title isn't as important as the "unauthorized practice of medicine (or dermatology, etc) without a license". The use of "doctor" and "dermatologist" and "board certified" is really a false advertising/creating consumer confusion issue. The real issue is that they are using these titles to set up shops and practice independently as physicians.
Law2Doc,
I'll use another user's response to explain why I think trying to restric the DNPs ability to practice independently is a lost cause:
I think we need to
1) restrict the use of the title "doctor" for patient safety.
2) Define "the practice of medicine" and bring the practice of independent DNPs under the board of medicine.
3) Set rules like the ones in florida where there is "Truth in medical education" by which all practitioners must disclose the actual nature of the education and license they posess.
4) Limit by law, like it's done in Florida, the use of "specialist", "dermatologist", etc to those who have completed an actual residency in an institution recognized by the board of medicine.
I'm currently tweaking another user's sample letter so that it can be used at the state level to request all these changes I just enumerated.
Best regards!
I would be the first in line to vote for a bill enforcing a law that ALL people in contact with a patient, whether its the housekeeper or the chief of surgery, needs to identify themself and what thier title is. Some hospitals have tags that hang under the employee ID that say in big red letters, RN, resident MD, attending MD, NP, PA, CNA, and even environmental service. Nobody has Dr. Jane Smith on their ID, it says Jane Smith MD. If a person such as a social worker or physicial therapist holds a phD, it will have the degree behind their name but it will not say Dr. before their name either.
NOBODY except MD's should be allowed to identify themself as a doctor to patients. I know this is about DNP's, but patients become confused when there is so many people, and there are situations such as the physical therapist and PM+R docs who are both "doctor" that can cause confusion. To the patient, they both deal with rehab, they must be the same right? How about the social worker who holds a doctorate vs. the psychiatrist? To the patient, they both come to see them and talk about things, they don't know the difference if they are both introduced as doctor.
Nurses were able to pass laws making it illegal for anyone but a licensed nurse to be call themself "nurse" to a patient. It would be pretty hypocritical for DNP's especially to try to trick patients into thinking they are physicians or to give the patient the impression that they have equal training by addressing themself as doctor in a clinical setting.