student health insurance and birth control

[Stitch626]

Are you stupid? Did you miss what i said? What is the ****ing reason most people use BIRTH CONTROL pills. Last time i checked the common name was not endometryo... pills. I wonder why they picked up the common name


Marajuana also treats a medical condition in some cases but the majority of people use it to get high so should insurance companies pay for some ninth grader who uses it to get high because sometimes its used to treat a medical condition or should they just pay for the people who use it for the medical condition and not the rest. If you cant see this then you are a total *******.

No, I am not stupid and I obviously did not miss what you said because I reposted your words above my last response. Using birth control pills for treating endometriosis is NOT off-label. Did you know that there are some drugs that can be used to treat different things? WOW... An amazing world we live in. Birth control also reduces the chance of developing ovarian cancer by 30-50%. But seeing that you are probably a misogynist, that would not be a good thing, right?

So I still am not understanding why you think insurance should not cover birth control pills for my endometriosis, or dysmenorrhea in that matter. Maybe if you relied more on logic and less on cursing and personal attacks your message would have been clearer.

p.s. What is your agenda? You might as well state it so people don't make the wrong assumptions about you.

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[MollyMalone]

Was she being stupid? Yes. you attacked my argument's wording but seemed to miss the real argument.

She said that because some people use birth control for other reasons than birth control everyone should get it........(see post for rest) That is being stupid

I'm not referring to the content of your argument, I'm referring to your delivery. No matter if you're right or wrong, namecalling is unnecessary and damages the quality of the discussion.

 

[Stitch626]

Was she being stupid? Yes. you attacked my argument's wording but seemed to miss the real argument.

She said that because some people use birth control for other reasons than birth control everyone should get it........(see post for rest) That is being stupid

Please post the part of my argument where I said this. For some reason I can't find it. Oh right, it's because I'm stupid. Just a second... I'm remembering back when I was in second grade and I too used to call everyone that disagreed with me the name "stupid". Thank god I've matured past that.

If you don't post a quote of mine demonstrating what I supposedly said, everyone will assume you're lying. And nobody wants to be a liar.

 

[deleted109597]

I think what the OP wanted has been expressed, and now we can just leave the trolls to not have sex with their wives or lack thereof.

 

[jocg27]

If men were the ones getting pregnant and dealing with menstruation, birth control coverage would have been mandatory a long time age.

I am male, and I certainly agree that this is true. Any man who doesn't is kidding themselves.

Men do still dominate the higher-up positions of big business, including insurance companies. If you don't think men are making these decisions about issues of women's health, you are wrong. And if you think there's no problem with a group of men sitting around and making decisions about women's health, you are wrong.

Even the anti-birth control hardliners on here, bennett ec3 etc, have been completely avoiding the question of why it might be reasonable for Viagra to be covered...but birth control raises b.s. issues of 'decisions regarding nonessential actions for pleasure,' and how guys have to pay for their hockey equipment, so women should pay for birth control (seriously? I'm still having a hard time believing anyone would say that....)

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I think what the OP wanted has been expressed, and now we can just leave the trolls to not have sex with their wives or lack thereof.

Good point. A discussion of the whether or not insurance companies should cover bc belongs in the health issues forum, not here.

 

[EC3]

I am male, and I certainly agree that this is true. Any man who doesn't is kidding themselves.

Men do still dominate the higher-up positions of big business, including insurance companies. If you don't think men are making these decisions about issues of women's health, you are wrong. And if you think there's no problem with a group of men sitting around and making decisions about women's health, you are wrong.

Even the anti-birth control hardliners on here, bennett ec3 etc, have been completely avoiding the question of why it might be reasonable for Viagra to be covered...but birth control raises b.s. issues of 'decisions regarding nonessential actions for pleasure,' and how guys have to pay for their hockey equipment, so women should pay for birth control (seriously? I'm still having a hard time believing anyone would say that....)

i don't expect you to understand what i'm saying because it's clear that no matter what i say, you're set in your beliefs that there is a global conspiracy against women. I'll give you the facts, though, so your anti-testosterone brain can see what's going on.

Viagra is prescribed for a medical problem that results in the inability to enjoy sex. This is more appropriately analogous to the menopausal medicines already discussed.

The birth control pill, on the other hand, is designed to primarily make an already enjoyable act more enjoyable by taking away unwanted consequences. Unlike erectile dysfunction, though, wanting to have sex without possibility of conception is not a medical problem.

It's not insurance's role to ensure that non-medically based quality of life issues are sorted out. There really isn't a conspiracy here, just some rational facts that tend to be ignored by the self righteous.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

mods, can we move this thread to the topics in healthcare forum since no one seems to be concerned about the op's question anymore?

 

[Rugby MD]

you're very good at making it seem like you know what you're talking about; however, my point still remains. pregnancy is not physiologically abnormal. it's 100% normal since if it wasn't, we wouldn't be around as a species. the reason the medical community is inolved is so that we can ensure its normality and PREVENT abnormalities from occurring. but this is all moot conversation since the insurance will cover pregnancy.

I'm not pregnant, does that make me abnormal?

 

[keepdreaming]

Viagra is prescribed for a medical problem that results in the inability to enjoy sex.

you argue that ovulating is a "natural" process and thus intervening by stopping the release of an egg is abnormal and hence birth controls should not be covered by health insurance.

yet you endorse viagra. as men age, their testosterone decreases and with that, their inabilty to have an erection. this too is a "natural" process. so following your logic, wouldn't viagra (for older men) be intervening with a natural proess as well? and thus viagra (for older men) shouldn't be covered as well.


Just following your logic

 

[lexrageorge]

I see the anti-birth control nazis are alive and well.

The OP has a right to be frustrated, because nearly all health insurance policies in the commercial world do cover birth control. I have heard of some with coverage caps, but never one that did not cover oral contraceptives at all. The OP's school does have a lousy plan.

My only suggestion to the OP is to consider using Costco. They will even do online refills at costco.com. Usually much cheaper for most drugs than your local ripoff pharmacy.

BTW, most health insurance plans do not cover Viagra, or cover it only upon producing documentation of low testosterone levels. And, even then, they will limit the amount that will be covered.

One way to look at this is to consider the costs of not taking the prescribed medication. If one does not take a contraceptive, they can become pregnant, necessitating a possibly unwanted pregnancy and associated medical, social, and economic complications. Seems like a pretty harsh consequence for a night of letting your guard down.

Don't take your Viagra, and your date goes home early in a tiff. Some of you will see the difference between these 2 scenarios. Others will not.