"Students may not elect pass/fail options in required course work"

[datschool]

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All my AP credits are listed as "P" or pass on my transcript. So by "Students may not elect pass/fail options in required course work unless a narrative transcript is provided by the college," the school means that it will not accept any AP classes?

 

[WheatLom]

I believe many schools won't take AP courses for pre-reqs. You have to scheck each individual school's websites to see their requirements.

 

[1ysh]

The academic section on AADSAS allows you to list any credits specifically received by AP exams so I'd put them there. And if you've transferred AP credits to your university, it already meets your undergraduate major or graduation requirement, won't it? So it doesn't make sense that it will not count as a pre-req for dental schools. For example my Calc AP cred satisfied the calculus prereq. I'm guessing what the quote means if you have any courses DURING your undergrad years that had pass/fail system, which some schools do, that one doesn't count as prereq.

 

[doc toothache]

It is difficult to judge one's academic ability with a P/F grading.

 

[ncide]

They are talking about taking a college course that offers a grade, but electing to take the course as a P/NP credit instead. They are not talking about AP credits. Regarding AP credits, usually they don't count towards prerequisites for dental school. You need them anyways for dental school courses and the boards exam. Having that knowledge is good.

 

[doc toothache]

They are talking about taking a college course that offers a grade, but electing to take the course as a P/NP credit instead. They are not talking about AP credits. Regarding AP credits, usually they don't count towards prerequisites for dental school. You need them anyways for dental school courses and the boards exam. Having that knowledge is good.[/QUOTE

DS prereqs are required for the boards?

 

[ncide]

Prereqs are required for boards


DS prereqs are required for the boards?

Prerequisites in biology, biochemistry, physiology and the like give students some background information that will be tested on the boards. My school for example does not teach biochemistry, and it is tested material on the boards so they require the course as an undergraduate student before matriculation.

 

[doc toothache]

Prerequisites in biology, biochemistry, physiology and the like give students some background information that will be tested on the boards. My school for example does not teach biochemistry, and it is tested material on the boards so they require the course as an undergraduate student before matriculation.

"Required" and "boards" are apparently used pretty loosely, but more than 'nuff said.

 

[UNCafDDS]

The first semester at my school is pass/fail (there is no choice in this). So I had no choice in receiving "P" vs. letter grades. My chem 1 and bio 1 grades are "P." Will I ever get admitted to dental school?

One caveat is that the actual grades that I earned in chem 1 and bio 1 were provided to ME. But they are not on my official transcript. However I do have paper documentation of them. But since my university refuses to send them out and I will have to, they will be considered unofficial. If I mail these "unofficial letter grades" directly to the dental schools will this solve this "problem"?

I have a 3.98 and I am on track to get a high DAT score (based on my practice). Am I screwed due to this P/F issue?

note: I ALSO have AP credit for bio and chem (but I still took the classes during my first semester since I was required to)

Thanks for any input here!

 

[ncide]

The first semester at my school is pass/fail (there is no choice in this). So I had no choice in receiving "P" vs. letter grades. My chem 1 and bio 1 grades are "P." Will I ever get admitted to dental school?

One caveat is that the actual grades that I earned in chem 1 and bio 1 were provided to ME. But they are not on my official transcript. However I do have paper documentation of them. But since my university refuses to send them out and I will have to, they will be considered unofficial. If I mail these "unofficial letter grades" directly to the dental schools will this solve this "problem"?

I have a 3.98 and I am on track to get a high DAT score (based on my practice). Am I screwed due to this P/F issue?

note: I ALSO have AP credit for bio and chem (but I still took the classes during my first semester since I was required to)

Thanks for any input here!

"They are talking about taking a college course that offers a grade, but electing to take the course as a P/NP credit instead."

 

[toothdoctor123]

And if you've transferred AP credits to your university, it already meets your undergraduate major or graduation requirement, won't it? So it doesn't make sense that it will not count as a pre-req for dental schools

Maybe it meets graduation requirements in your program, but there are lots of colleges that do not accept AP credit anymore. For example, almost every student at selective undergrad programs took 6-10 AP courses or the IB equivalent. This now a high school prerequisite to apply to those colleges. Because many trend-setting colleges have adapted to the popularity of AP courses, they are treated as de facto high-school level courses even though the original purpose of the AP program was to expose gifted high school students to college-level coursework. In the past, students at these selective undergrad schools were unlikely to be pre-dental, but now you are competing against them to get into dental school. I would assume that the average pre-dental student today took multiple AP courses in high school (although dental schools don't care what you did in high school).

In my opinion, the reason dental schools don't accept AP credit for prerequisites is that this would imply to the public that, within our current education system, only a high schooler's knowledge is required for a student to succeed in dental school. (Honestly, it is probably true that you could get by at most dental schools with only an AP-level science education...but let's keep that between us professionals.) Dental schools must convince the public that the degrees they confer are true doctorates built upon 8 years of post-secondary study rather than second bachelor's degrees.

 

[doc toothache]

Maybe it meets graduation requirements in your program, but there are lots of colleges that do not accept AP credit anymore. For example, almost every student at selective undergrad programs took 6-10 AP courses or the IB equivalent. This now a high school prerequisite to apply to those colleges. Because many trend-setting colleges have adapted to the popularity of AP courses, they are treated as de facto high-school level courses even though the original purpose of the AP program was to expose gifted high school students to college-level coursework. In the past, students at these selective undergrad schools were unlikely to be pre-dental, but now you are competing against them to get into dental school. I would assume that the average pre-dental student today took multiple AP courses in high school (although dental schools don't care what you did in high school).

In my opinion, the reason dental schools don't accept AP credit for prerequisites is that this would imply to the public that, within our current education system, only a high schooler's knowledge is required for a student to succeed in dental school. (Honestly, it is probably true that you could get by at most dental schools with only an AP-level science education...but let's keep that between us professionals.) Dental schools must convince the public that the degrees they confer are true doctorates built upon 8 years of post-secondary study rather than second bachelor's degrees.

Or it could be simply that, just as CC courses, AP courses are not deemed to be at the same level as bonafide university courses.

 

[datschool]

Or it could be simply that, just as CC courses, AP courses are not deemed to be at the same level as bonafide university courses.

Damn, the college board lied to me.

 

[doc toothache]

Damn, the college board lied to me.

Perhaps a case of selective hearing.