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STUDY MEDICINE IN PANAMA OR COSTA RICA

Discussion in 'General International Discussion' started by IRON_DUKE, Jun 17, 2001.

  1. IRON_DUKE

    IRON_DUKE MEDICAL RED NECK ROYALTY
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    ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THE OPTION , I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A BASIC OUTLINE OF WHAT TO EXPECT .


    THE BASIC COSTS INVOLVED ................ETC......

    BACKGROUND :

    FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ACCEPTED INTO A MEDICAL TRAINIG PROGRAM , WHATERVER THE REASON ........MONEY ....GRADES ...ETC.......
    CAN LOOK INTO STUDYING MEDICINE ABROAD .
    SADLY FOLKS , PEOPLE TEND TO MAKE YOU THINK THAT THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN BECOME A REAL DOCTOR IS IN ........U.S.A. , EUROPE , ETC......
    SEE THE WODERFUL THING ABOUT BEING A DOCTOR IS THAT , MEDICINE IS UNIVERSAL . IF YOU BREAK YOUR ARM IN THE U.S.A. , OR IN RUSSIA .........IT IS THE SAME THING ( a broken arm ) .

    Now of course ......on the latter side things may differ from the equipment aspect . If you are in harvard med school , you will have acsess to the latest and gratest , versus being in the COLUMBUS UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE AND GENERAL SURGERY ..MED SCHOOL IN DAVID , CHIRIQUI , PANAMA REP. OF PANAMA . But in the end you will walk away with you M.D. .

    Now I know that is is hard to cross over ( go back to the U.S.A. ) With a foreign M.D. . WHY ? I would gues that part is in the fact that so many bogus degrees come from UNCLE SPANKYS SCHOOL OF WITCH DOCTOR MEDICINE .

    BUT , happy campers...........the facts are these .

    IF YOU GO TO A REPUTABLE MEDICAL UNIVERSITY , YOU WILL HAVE TO STUDY ...........AND PASS . AND IF YOU HAVE TO STUDY AND PASS ..........THEN YOU SHOULD NOT FEAR THE USMLE ANYMORE THAN A LOCALLY EDUCATED MED-STUDENT . THERE ARE USMLE STUDY GUIDES , AND I AM SURE THAT EXTRA TUTORING IS AVAILABLE .

    ANYWAY , STUDYING IN THE U.S.A. IS NOT A GUARENTEE THAT YOU WILL PASS THE BOARDS ANYWAY ( look at J.F.K. jr., R.I.P. ) .

    Now , I am NOT RECOMMENDING THIS ( TO STUDY MEDICINE ABROAD ) . IF YOU OR YOUR FAMILIY HAS THE CASH , OR YOU FEEL THAT YOU CAN GET THE LOANS ..........THEN GO THAT WAY . BUT IF THE CAsH IS TIGHT AND , YOU DONT WANT TO OWE HALF THE NATIONAL DEBT , BY THE TIME YOU GRADUATE ... ( that is a joke , so smile ) .....there are other considerations . This is meant for those who would like to know , other options .


    REMEMBER NO ONE ( ONLY GOD ) CAN PROMISE YOU THAT YOU CAN CROSS OVER ( PRACTICE MEDICINE IN U.S.A. ) .


    THE REPUBLIC OF PANAMA

    NAME :

    COLUMBUS UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE AND GENERAL SURGERY

    COLUMBUS UNIVERSITY FACULTAD DE MEDICINA Y CIRUJIA GENERAL

    HOW DO I GET IN ?

    TAKE A BASIC 3 MONTH ACCCEPTANCE COURSE ....WHERE YOU GO OVER CHEMISTRY , PHYSISCS , ENGLISH , BIOLOGY . TAKE A TEST AT THE END OF THE 3 MONTH COURSE . PASS AND THEN GO INTO MED SCHOOL . KIND OF A PRE MED THING .
    LOCATION :

    THEY HAVE TWO CAMPUS THAT OFFER MEDICINE

    1) Panama city , Panama
    2) David city, Chiriqui ( chiriqui is a province on the border with costa rica .......David city ...is the main town in the chiriqui province ) .

    CURRENCY : U.S. DOLLAR IS THE OFFICIAL CURRENCY ( the pana?s call it the balboa ) But I asure you there is no such thing as the balboa . So if you hear something costs $20.00 balboas you know thats $20.00 u.s. dollars .

    Language : SPANISH . BUT WITH A GENEROUS HELPING OF ENGLISH .

    COST OF LIVING : FOOD IS CHEAP . YOU CAN GET A " TODAYS SPECIAL " FROM $ 1.25-2.25 U.S. DOLLARS .

    TODAYS SPECIAL :

    RICE , BEANS , MEAT , SALAD , COKE , EVEN SOUP .

    OR IF YOU PREFER YOU CAN ORDER FROM THE MENU , A TYPICAL MEAL WILL COST $ 2.75-5.75 u.s. dollars .

    Now multiply that by 3 meals a day . If you decide on going to the capital city ( panama city, panama ) And you have the cash .....there are T.G.I.F. FRIDAYS , BENNIGANS , McDonalds , Wendys , Subway , etc......................

    In david , city you only have a Mcdonalds in the way of fast food chains .

    LIVING EXPENSES : I WILL MENCION THREE LEVELS .

    LEVEL 0NE : THE MOST MODEST
    LEVEL TWO : SO-SO
    LEVEL THREE : LUXURY

    LEVEL ONE : IN DAVID , CITY You can find a room from anywhere from 40-115 dollars a month ( read ; forty-one-hundred-fifteen u.s. dollars ) .

    which is liviable.................nothing fancy . Or you could probably find a room and board type deal for like 150.00 per month......that would include laundy and one per day .

    Your light bill will depend on if you use air conditioner or not . A typical light bill with air is like $ 80.00 per month .
    Without air is like 45.00 per month .

    WATER BILL : IS USUALLY FREE , OR INCLUDED IN THE RENT .


    RENT IS ONE MONTH IN ADVANCE AND ONE MONTH DEPOSIT .
    EXAMPLE : 150.00 RENT IS 150.00 IN ADVANCE AND 150.00 DEPOSIT . SO YOU WILL NEED TO SHELL OUT 300.00 .

    LEVEL TWO : DECENT APARTMENT WILL RUN YOU FROM 200.00 A MONTH ALL THE WAY UP TO 400.00 PER MONTH .


    LEVEL THREE : HERE IT IS UP TO YOU , I MEAN IT?S WHATEVER YOU CAN AFFORD . IF YOU CAN PAY $ 2,000 .00 PER MONTH ...........THEN YOU CAN FIND THAT CATAGORY ALSO .

    TUITION : COLUMBUS UNIVERSITY COSTS 2,450.OO PER SEMESTER ( THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR NATIONALITY ) .

    THERE BEING 2 SEMESTERS PER YEAR . ( EACH SIX MONTH DURATION .

    UNIVERSIDAD LATINA DE PANAMA ( ALSO IN panama city, panama ) but only in panama city , panama . They dont have a david, city campus that offers medicine .

    I believe that the tuition costs like $ 3,400 per semester .


    Now I was studying in the DAVID, CHIRIQUI CAMPUS ( AT COLUMBUS UNIVERSITY ) . SO MOST OF WHAT I AM GOING TO REFER TOO IS ABOUT THIS SCHOOL .

    NOTE : THE UNIVERSIDAD LATINA HAS AN EXCELLENT DENTAL SCHOOL PROGRAM .

    I SAID BEFORE THAT THE TUITION COSTS LIKE $ 2,450.00 . BUT A DISCOUNT OF LIKE 3 % IS OFFERED IF YOU PAY WITHIN THE FIRST 20 DAYS AFTER CLASS BEGINS .
    BOOKS CALCULATE LIKE 250.00 PER SEMESTER , TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE .

    POCKET MONEY : WELL THIS IS ON YOU . YOU ALONE KNOW WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD .

    LAWYER : ONE IS NEEDED TO SOLICITE A STUDENT VISA . WHICH IS EASY .

    TRANSCRIPTS : YOU WILL NEED TO CERTIFY ALL YOUR SCHOOL TRANSCRIPTS IN THE PANAMENIAN EMBASSY IN THE U.S.A ( TEHER IS ONE IN MIAMI ) . AND THEY OF COURSE WILL NEED TO BE TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH .

    SYSTEM : IN COLUMBUS UNIVERSITY , YOU ARE REQUIERED TO TAKE A FULL LOAD ( ALL SUBJECTS OFFERED IN THAT SEMESTER ) . BUT THEY HAVE IT STRUCTURED TO WERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RECIVE ALL CLASES .
    PANAMENIANS ARE VERY FRIENDLY , AND LOVING PEOPLE . SPECIALLY TOWARDS AMERICANS .
    YOU WILL MAKE FRIENDS LIKE WILD FIRE . AND THEY WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO HELP YOU .

    YOU WILL HAVE A BILLION FRIENDS IN A SHORT WHILE , BECAUSE MEDICNE IS A HARD THING TO LEARN ALONE . UNLESS YOU ARE A BRAIN .

    SO YOU WILL WIND UP LIKE ME , IN MY " CLAN " THERE WAS THREE OF US , AND WE DID EVERYTHING TOGETHER . (WELL YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN ) .

    DO NOT FEAR IF YOU DONT SPEAK SPANISH LIKE PERFECTLY . MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY IS ALMOST THE SAME , SO THAT HELPS . BUT OF COURSE YOU NEED TO START LEARNING .
    BUT WITH THE BEAUTIFUL SENORITAS ( AND THERE ARE MANY ) , YOU WILL SPEAK IT IN NO TIME AT ALL .

    ALL PROFESORS SPEAK ENGLSIH , EVEN THOUGH THEY PREFER YOU TO SPEAK SPANISH .

    BEWARE : NOW HERE IS THE DOWN SIDE . MEDICINE IS HARDLY TAUGHT IN CLASS . YOU WILL LEARN THIS IN ONE OF TWO WAYS .

    1 ) AFTER RECIVING THE LECTURE .......YOU GO HOME AND STUDY , STUDY , STUDY . EITHER YOU MAY KNOW MORE THAN THE OTEHR MEMEBER OF YOUR " CLAN " . SO YOU ARE THE TEACHER .

    2 ) HE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU .....OR BETTER YET HE UNDERSTOOD MORE , AND HE TEACHES THE REST . HE = MEMBER OF YOUR CLAN .

    THIS IS THE WAY THAT MEDICNE IS TAUGHT . AND LEARNED .

    NOW LETS LOOK AT THIS ASPECT . MOST COUNTRIES TRAIN THERE OWN DOCTORS , SO LIKE I SAID BEFORE ...........ITS NOT LIKE MEDICNE IS EXCLUSIVE TO ONE COUNTRY . NO , THERE ARE EXCELLENT DOCTORS ALL AROUND THE WORLD .

    IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED ...........I CAN SET YOU UP ALL YOU WILL NEED TO GET STARTED . ROOM , BOARD , LAWYER , ETC................. I CAN EVEN ARRANGE FOR SOMEONE TO PICK YOU UP AT THE AIRPORT .

    PRECAUTIONS : IN PANAMA YOU SHOULS ALWAYS CARRY SOME VALID I.D. PASSPORT , ETC....... BEACUSE THET HAVE A REAL BAD HABIT .....UNDERCOVER COPS AND THE SORT OF ASKING FOR I.D. .

    DURATION : 6 YEARS OR 12 SEMESTERS . THIS DEPENDS ON YOU NOT FAILING ONCE IN 6 YEARS .

    my email is [email protected]
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    COSTA RICA

    COST OF LIVING : COMPARABLE TO SWITZERLAND , IN OTHER WORDS EXPENSIVE ( compared to panama ) .

    FOOD : " TODAYS SPECIAL IS LIKE $ 5.75

    So you have a general idea


    SCHOOLS : EXCELLENT MEDICAL TRAINING HERE . COSTA RICA HAS NO ARMY , SO THE GOVERMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BIG ON EDUCATION .

    THE ONES I CAN RECOMEND ARE THE FOLLOWING :

    IN ORDER :

    UCIMED .......UNIVERSIDAD DE MEDICINA ANDRES VELISALIO GUZMAN . ONE OF THE OLDEST . BUT EXPENSIVE FOR U.S. CITIZENS LIKE $ 5,800.00 PER SEMESTER .
    THEY ENFORCE A STRICT DRESS CODE ( KIND OF LIKE A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY FOR YUPPIES ) . NO LONG HAIR FOR MEN , NO EAR RINGS , ETC.....

    GIRLS , NO SHORTS , NO SKIRTS .....ETC......

    FOR CENTRAL AMERICAN STUDENTS ITS LIKE : $ 2,800.00 . PER SEMESTER .

    THEY ONLY OFFER MEDICINE AND FARMACOLOGY .

    2) UNIBE ..............I DONT REALLY KNOW THE COST ...BUT FOR US STUDENTS MAYBE LIKE $1700.00 PER CUATRIMESTER .........LOOK . ITS NOT SEMESTER ( SIX MONTHS ) ITS NOW CUATRIMESTER ( 4 MONTHS ) ..

    3) UNIVERSIDAD HISPANOAMERICANA

    US. STUDENTS I THINK LIKE $ 2,000.00 PER CUATRIMESTER . 3 CUATRIEMSTERES PER YEAR .

    NOW , WHAT AM I BASING MY CRITERIA ON BEING GOOD OR BAD ?

    WELL.....................ITS WHERE THESE SCHOOLS SEND THERE STUDENTS TO PRACTICE , I THINK ITS CALLED THE SEMIOLOGY COURSE . WHERE MED-STUDENTS ARE ALLOWED IN A HOSPITAL AND CAN SEE ACTUAL CASES .

    NOT ALL UNIVERSITIES CAN SEND THERE STUDENTS TO THE BEST HOSPITALS . BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THAT OFFER MEDICNE , YOU WOULD HAVE A OVER FLOW OF MED STUDENTS .

    SO IT IS LIMITED . TO THESE THREE WHO HAVE THE BEST OPTIONS OF PRACTICING . NOW I HAVE NOT INCLUDED THE U.C.R. / WHICH IS THE PUBLIC UNIVERSITY , BECAUSE I HAVE NO REAL KNOWLEDGE OF HOW YOU CAN GET IN .

    RENTING : FROM $ 350.00 PER MONTH ON UP .

    BUT YOU CAN FIND EASILY FAMILIES WHO ARE WILLING TO RENT A ROOM FOR LIKE 150.00 A MONTH , THIS SHOULD INCLUDE FOOD AND LAUNDY . BUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO EAT OUT THATS FINE ALSO .

    system : here you can pick and choose what subjects you want to take . that does not mean that you can leave out any . it does mean that if you want to take only one subject per cuatrimester , thats fine . if you want to take a full load thats fine also .

    sometimes even if you want to take a full load you cant . because your classes will run into one another .

    DURATION : 4 YEARS PLUS 1 YEAR IN THE HOSPITAL . YOU CAN OPT TO GO TO THE US AND DO IT THERE ( THE HISPANOAMERICANA OFFERS THIS ) .
    NOW I SAY 4 YEARS WITH A FULL LOAD AND NOT FAILING ANYTHING IN THOSE FOUR YEARS .

    HOW DO I GET IN ?

    TAKING A PHYSCOLOGICAL TEST .
    COSTS LIKE $ 15-50 DOLLARS . DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU TAKE IT .


    CURRENCY : COLON AT THIS WRITING 327 PER U.S. DOLLAR .

    BUDDY SYSTEM : NO " CLAN " SYSTEM IN EFFECT HERE . COSTA RICANS ARE MORE LOANERS . THEY ARE USE TO HAVING BEEN AROUND FOREIGNERS , SO THEY ARE MORE LAID BACK AND INDIVIDUALISTIC . NOW THATS NOT TO SAY , THAT THERE ARE NOT " CLANS " , BUT THEY ARE RARE .

    BUT ITS YOUR DESICION .

    WHAT DO I NEED ?

    AGAIN YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR TRANSCRIPTS TRANLATED INTO SPANISH , TAKEN THIS TIME TO THE COSTA RICAN EMBASSY ,AND CERTIFIED .

    COSTA RICA IS EXPENSIVE BUT NICE . BUT NO MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE U.S.A. .

    again any help needed

    [email protected]


    I study at the hispanoamericana university in san jose , costa rica .
     
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  3. gower

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    Before any US citizen/permanent resident goes to any non-US, non-Canadian medical school anywhere in the world and expects to become licensed in the US, s/he should check first in the World Directory of Medical Schools (a UN publication) to see if it is listed. Those listings are provided by the appropriate authorities in each nation. If a school is not listed, licensing in the US is precluded.

    I do not have a copy of the publication so I cannot vouch for any foreign medical schools myself. Try a library, buy a copy from the
    UN.

    USMLE pass rates for Americans differ from one foreign medical school to another. I believe that the ECFMG folks have a listing, which may be in the application packet, of pass rates for most countries where US students study abroad.

    Caveat emptor/let the buyer beware.
     
  4. IRON_DUKE

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    BRAVOOOOOOOOO BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !


    WELL , THATS WHY I ALWAYS SAY .......IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECIEVE " POSITIVE FEEDBACK " ON THESE MATTERS ( ENTERING MED SCHOOL ABROAD ) .


    LIKE I SAID IN THE VERY BEGING OF THE POST IT , I AM NOT SAYING " DO IT " ( I HOPE I DONT GET SUED BY NIKE OVER USING THEIR PUNCH LINE )

    I AM SAYING THAT " IF " , YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE ......... HERE ARE TWO OPTIONS ABOVE THAT CAN GIVE YOU A VERY GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT TO DO , OR WHERE TO LOOK .

    Now I am going to lok into what was said about the med-schools being listed . That is the first I have heard of that .
    BUT I SURE AM GLAD THAT IT IS BEING POINTED OUT .

    ALL CONTRIBUTIONS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME .

    HAVE FUN .
     
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    Just a FYI, I have posted the URL to the WHO directory of med schools here recently and a simple search will find it.
     
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    SORRY BUT COULD YOU SEND ME THE LINK BELIEVE ME I HAVE SEARCHED AND DONE MORE SEARCHING . NO LUCK .

    THE LINK TO THE WHO MEDICAL SCHOOLS
     
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