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Anyone have a pneumonic or a good system or something for congenital heart disease learning? i managed to still not know it after the peds shelf (which luckily didnt have much on it in my case.... at least i dont think it did)
 

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if you're done with peds, then there's no reason to remember it. there's very little of that stuff on step 2.
 

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the way i remembered it for step1 is all the 3 letter ones (ASD,VSD,PDA) are L->R, and all the other ones that arent 3 letter abbrevations (tetralogy of fallot, transposition, etc) are R->L.
 

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But tetralogy is so often noted TOF...damn....

By the way, anbody got a mnemonic for how to spell mnemonic????
 

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Boomer said:
But tetralogy is so often noted TOF...damn....

By the way, anbody got a mnemonic for how to spell mnemonic????
And TGA = transposition of the great arteries.
 
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ghmmm.... i was thinking more along the lines of a blue baby walks into a bar scenario.
 

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v-tach said:
And TGA = transposition of the great arteries.
TGA=TOGA where I come from. Sounds more hip anyways. :cool:
 

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irrka said:
Anyone have a pneumonic or a good system or something for congenital heart disease learning? i managed to still not know it after the peds shelf (which luckily didnt have much on it in my case.... at least i dont think it did)
Do you own First Aid for Step 2? In the peds section there should be mnemonics.
 

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Good ol' Robbins -- if it has a "D" in it, it's a L -> R (late cyanogenic, as it evolves to Eisenmenger syndrome). If on the other hand it has a "T" in it, it's a R -> L (early cyanogenic). So, go with Ds and Ts!

(PS: Ebstein anomaly has a "T" in it, too :p)
 
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MD'05 said:
Do you own First Aid for Step 2? In the peds section there should be mnemonics.
nope, dont have a 1st aid, i've got a Crush St2. which is SKIMPY. is first aid worth getting?
 

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irrka said:
nope, dont have a 1st aid, i've got a Crush St2. which is SKIMPY. is first aid worth getting?

I just find it easiest to remember the 5 T's = blue baby

1. Transpostion of great arteries
2. Tetrology of Fallot
3. Truncus arteriosus
4. Tricuspid valve atresia
5. Total anomaly of the pulmonary veins

Everything else is L to R unless you get into Eisenmenger syndrome.
 

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And what's really cool about the five T's is that they're numbered 1 through 5.

1: Truncus arteriosus is a single outflow
2: Transposition of the two great arteries
3: Tricuspid valve atresia
4: Tetrology of Fallot
5: Total anomalous return of pulmonary veins has five words.

OK, number 5 is lame, but I still remember this, and peds is not my thing.