whats the best way to answer this question: "So...let's start off by you telling me a little about yourself..."
are you in the south or military or something?! geesh. i don't think i've ever uttered those words. i'll try to stick with just yes.Originally posted by neuromd03
"yes, sir" or "yes, maam."
I think these Dr's are bright enough to figure out that they are interviewing a med school candidate, and not a drug rep or an admin. Using "Sir" and "Ma'am" is not only antiquated, but it is a surefire way to come of as a kiss ass. Just be courteous and be yourself and you'll do fine.Originally posted by neuromd03
Here's another interview tip.
Address your physician interviewer as Dr. _____ during introductions but do not continue to use the title "Doctor." Instead, use "sir" or "ma'am." Doctors are conditioned to believe that anybody in a fancy suit who continues to address them as "doctor" is either a drug rep or a hospital administrator.
explain please.Originally posted by neuromd03
Surgeons look for disciplined and reliable assistants and believe it or not, there is a strict chain of command in the OR and on the floors. You better know this or you'd look foolish during the interview.
From top to bottomOriginally posted by silver_eyes
Originally posted by Ma!
Shamalama-I thought about this all through dinner and a "Dr. Phil" quote came to mind: "You know, son, its hard to look at yourself if you don't got a mirror"
Now here is an idea for you-ask your own Ma to tell you a little bit about yourself....I think you will be pleasantly surprised at her insight and maybe come up with a thing or two you hadn't thought of.
Whatever you do, do not say the above to any interviewer! .Originally posted by Tweetie_bird
It will take me a LOT of practise before I start calling somebody "sir" or "maam" simply because I find it demeaning to myself. Maybe it's a girl thing, but I am definitely NOT calling any man "sir...." especially if I have worked this hard to prove my intelligence and promise.
I forgot to talk about that, didn't I?Originally posted by Street Philosopher
what is a sub I?
LOL, I would never say the above to an interviewer. You are right, I do have a hard time with authority especially if "ass kissing" is required to be a part of it. I have no problems showing respect in any other form--my disposition, way I talk, never interrupting...etc. And although one may think it has to do with an "attitude problem" or "conceitedness," I beg to differ. I think respect can be shown in ways other than address labels. The way I am in person when I talk to people; the tone of my voice; my ability to LISTEN first and then talk; these are things I think will matter far more than using words like "ma'am" or "sir" especially to DOCTORS who are taught to be egalitarian (is that the word?). And to be frank, I dislike OTHERS calling me "ma'am" also. Perhaps it has to do with my upbringing which was in a different country and there is a social....stigma...??Originally posted by neuromd03
Whatever you do, do not say the above to any interviewer! .
I'll tell you why. First, it suggests that you are uncomfortable working with authority. Second, it reveals a potential attitude problem and conceitedness with a possible history of difficulty working well with others ("I have worked this hard to prove" [how great I am and how others are inferior]).
I suggest you practice your interview.
Oh of course! I do the same with our patients right now. It's just that I have a hard time calling somebody "ma'am" or "sir" in an INTERVIEW especially when I know I am supposed to "be myself." I would rather address them as Dr.Originally posted by neuromd03
If I don't say Mr. (Patient) or Ms. (Patient), I always say sir or ma'am out of respect. The patients love it. It's not just a doctor thing.
As students you address residents by their first names. If before patients, you'd want to address them as Dr. So and So, since the patients would rather be treated by a Dr. than by an intern named "Joe" (professionalism puts patients at ease). As for addressing the dean "sir" by students, that happens everyday. I have never seen it happen in undergrad but in medicine these salutations and titles are important. There is a medical hierarchy that has been around for ages (you haven't heard of "pimping" or "scutting?") and it'd help to know what you're getting yourself into.Originally posted by Tweetie_bird
I feel that everybody should FEEL like they are on an equal level, although they may not necessarily ACT like it. How many times do you see a med student refer to a chief or even the dean as "sir?" I personally haven't seen much of it, and I have worked in health care for 5 years. In any case, I do see your point and will try and incorporate what you said because an acceptance means MORE to me than feeling low about having to address another man as "sir."
So basically, you are right. I do need to practise my interview more. And if need be, I will just have to suck it up and address people as that at the interview.
actually, i think that acting humbly (ie kissing up) does help for evals, match, lors, aoa, etc. I also think that personality maybe contributes more to your success than some people assume.Originally posted by Tweetie_bird
LOL, I would never say the above to an interviewer. You are right, I do have a hard time with authority especially if "ass kissing" is required to be a part of it.
Originally posted by Sweet Tea
Hmmm...here's the southern manners part of me coming out again, but Emily Post was my mother's hero.
I really don't see using "sir" and "ma'am" as kissing ass-- it's just good manners. I was raised to call anyone in a postition of authority as sir or ma'am, and it's second nature to me. I call my EMS patients and my research participants sir or ma'am. It just shows respect for the person you're talking to. It is, however, definetly a learned trait, and one you must practice if you want to use it.
However, I don't think that there's anything wrong with calling an interviewer "Dr. Smith" or whatever. If you're more comfortable with using Dr., then by all means use Dr!! I would, however, refrain from using "yeah" or anything less formal than "yes" or "no". I don't think anyone's ever been rejected from med school b/c they didn't use "ma'am" or "sir". You want to be formal and respectful, not stilted, at an interview.
Now that I've lectured you all on handwritten thank you notes and sir/ma'am, I will be leading a discourse in how to set a table for a formal dinner.