kingsman55

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Hello,

Applied this year but it's not looking too promising to get an acceptance. I applied in the middle of October which might have helped in my demise. I attend a small liberal arts university in California. Changed from being a math major to bio with a chem minor after freshman year.

Stats:
cGPA - 3.494
BCPM - 3.509
Strong upward trend, after bringing in poor grades from dual enrollment classes during HS and being a math major :/.

MCAT - 33N (11 PS, 9 VR, 13 BS)

Activities:
1 summer of research in developmental biology lab - no publication
Clinical Care Extender Volunteer - 48 hours sophomore year
Currently volunteering at a local free clinic and local hospital in the ER - around another 50 hours right now.
Currently shadowing Orthopedic Surgeon, Infectious Disease Specialist, and a DO in family medicine - approximately 25 hours.
Tutoring local HS student - 2 hrs/week
Played football for 13 years, including starting all 4 years in college. Team captain senior year. Nominated for Scholar Athlete of the Year. One reason why I wasn't able to acquire more EC's.
Work - ~20 hrs/wk.

List of schools I'm thinking of applying to:
All UC's (multiple reaches)
Stanford (reach)
Mayo (reach)
Mt. Sinai (reach)
Rosalind Franklin
Drexel (strong ties to PA)
Jefferson
U of Arizona (strong ties to AZ)
USUHS
Oregon Health Sciences University
Possibly some DO schools

If you have any suggestions for what I can do to bolster my application please let me know. Also if you think there are any schools I should add or take off my list please let me know.

Thank you for your time!
 

canjosh

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You're too top heavy, IMO. All the UCs are reaches for most people. DO schools should be well within your reach though. Maybe consider Albany, Tulane...do you have the MSAR? Apply early this time, as I'm sure you're aware.
 

oaklandguy

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very low GPA. not enough clinical experience, and very little research. you need to apply to more schools with lower statistics and maybe even DO. Your cGPA is not competitive at all. And your MCAT doesn't exactly make up for it. Your ECs are solid and it definitely helps that you were a college athlete. I mean that is huge, but most schools will screen you out due to your gpa alone, so I would add more lower level schools who will see that you are an athlete and understand how hard it is to maintain a high gpa while being an athlete. I would also apply DO if I were in your situation. G' Luck.
 

bravofleet4

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did you buy an MSAR book when you made your school list?
 
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GPA is low for your top heavy school list, lack of clinical experience, research is average, the football thing is good.
 
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With your LizzyM score of amost 69, here are other schools for you to consider adding:
66/ MSU,
67/Virginia Commonwealth, EVMS, NYMC, Tulane, UIllinois, Rush, GWU,
68/Temple, Toledo, Buffalo, Loyola, Loma Linda,
69/MCW, UVermont, SUNY Upstate, UCentral Florida, Albany, Creighton, Wayne, Georgetown.

As a reapplicant most schools will want to know how you've improved since you last applied. How will you answer that? What will your total hours and months of involvement be in the free clinic? Months tutoring? Can you get in more shadowing?: about twice what you listed would be closer to the average amount. What was your job?
 

kingsman55

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Thank you for the responses!

I ordered the MSAR and should be arriving shortly.

Improvements:
My cGPA will have improved from a 3.40 --> 3.494
My BCPM will have improved from a 3.43 --> 3.509

Now that football is over, I am collecting more volunteering experience, shadowing and work.

At the free clinic I will probably have about 75 hours during 4 months
At the hospital I will have 60 hours during 4 months
Tutoring will have been for 4 months
I will be shadowing more, trying to find doctors to shadow seems difficult in my area.

I have been working at the local restaurant/club for the past 4 years, working banquets/weddings/serving.

If you have any more comments or schools to add let me know. Are UCSD, UCSF, UCLA, Sinai and Stanford too far out of reach? Should I even bother spending the money?

Thanks again!
 
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Are UCSD, UCSF, UCLA, Sinai and Stanford too far out of reach? Should I even bother spending the money?
Being a conservative, frugal realist, I'd say not to bother, but other SDNers consistently say "Apply to all your state schools," because you never really know what they're looking for. Either way, you can't go wrong. Some of us will think you did the right thing.

Mention the job, as the people skills gained through wiating tables are directly transferable to medicine. And play up the hours spent in practice for your team as it provides a reason why you have no nonmedical community service.

Your clinical experience will be much improved. Having a teaching activity to list is desirable.

Keep working on finding a way to build on the shadowing.